error/variety help
myth
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Question....
When is differences between a strike considered an error or variety?
Example:
I thought this might be considered an error or variety due to lack of frost on devices. I have multiple sets to compare this too and all others have visible "frosting". When I sent this in for consideration, I was told it is too minor to be recognized.
What are your thoughts? Thanks!
When is differences between a strike considered an error or variety?
Example:
I thought this might be considered an error or variety due to lack of frost on devices. I have multiple sets to compare this too and all others have visible "frosting". When I sent this in for consideration, I was told it is too minor to be recognized.
What are your thoughts? Thanks!
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The confusion results when people refer to, for example, the 1955 doubled die cent as an "error" meaning a mistake in making the die. But the 1955 doubled die cent is a variety as all coins struck from that die pair are doubled die cents.
Hope this helps.
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<< <i>The definition I have heard most is that a variety is in the dies, such that every coin struck from those dies has the variety, while an error is not in the dies, and one coin can have the error and the rest of the coins struck by that die pair not have the error.
The confusion results when people refer to, for example, the 1955 doubled die cent as an "error" meaning a mistake in making the die. But the 1955 doubled die cent is a variety as all coins struck from that die pair are doubled die cents.
Hope this helps. >>
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For example (and presuming the OP is referring to the "Enhanced Uncirculated" Native American Dollar) some 1965-1967 SMS Sets have CAMEO looking coins while most do not.
Are the "non" CAMEO coins errors or varieties
OR
Are they simply missing that CAMEO attribute due to an older die?
My vote is that they are simply missing the Attribute.
No doubt, chemical modification tot he actual "dies" used to produce the 1965-1967 SMS Sets was intentional, but, the more the dies were used, the less CAMEO effect that survived.
The exact same thing could be said of the 1968 through 1973 Proof Sets.
The Enhanced Uncirculated Finish for the Native American Dollar was nothing more than a modification to the dies used to produce the coins. The more the die was used, the less apparent the "effect" became.
So, if a buyer obtains an Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set that doesn't look all that "enhanced", it is simply a coin from a Late Die State (LDS) which is a common occurance for mass produced coins.
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This does have a look of a pre-64 proof without cameo
<< <i>This is a proof coin. graded pf69. I actually have 2 coins that look like this. Others that I have, do have frosted devices
This does have a look of a pre-64 proof without cameo >>
This is quite unusual for a modern proof coin what with their mechanically applied dipple frosting.
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<< <i>what does the other side look like? >>
it looks like any other proof. With frosted devices