pcgs coin resteration

byknow

Thinking of submitting a coin to this service.Coin was graded questionable color.Can they fix this and how likely is it to get a higher grade if numerically graded?

ricko

Was it given a numerical grade when deemed questionable? Depending on what the 'questionable color' is... it could even expose some surface damage and become 'no grade'.... Cheers RickO

lasvegasteddy

i wouldn't think they'd touch a "questionable color" as the patina has been messed with
they'd have to strip the patina off...not exactly what restoration presents itself to be
they even state restoration won't remove toning...so it's patina friendly their process

if you do though
update this thread

i have seen questionable color coins cracked out and resubmitted to come back graded with no problems

any chance you got an image of this prospect coin to display?

byknow

Will take some pics.Thought about cracking it and sending back in.Still has lots of luster.

puffer

I had an 1890-s $20 that was MS62, old holder PCGS. I dipped in acetone and got a contact from NGC that it had residue still and if I gave the go ahead it would probably grade. It then graded MS63. PCGS is around the same in conservation. Deller's darkener had been used. With copper, etc., it is more problematic. If there is a question they may not go ahead unless you insist, when you could still have a problem coin.

WaterSport

Agree if its copper your talking about, you best give it the back porch treatment and hope for a brown designation on next submission.

WS

byknow

Here are the pics I said I would post.

copperhunter

Wow! That is very nice coin regardless!

MGLICKER

Color looks a bit bright for that vintage. I would leave it alone.

Barndog

crack it and submit it again

MGLICKER

<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>



Are they not archiving unique coin results?

byknow

Really thought I had an MS with great eye appeal.

Barndog

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<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>



Are they not archiving unique coin results? >>



if something goes through the secure plus process, it gets recorded. Regular submissions, no such thing. If someone believes in a coin, got to keep trying. It usually works if the coin is wholesome (cartoonish coloration need not apply). Could always dip it ... but that's not my recommendation as a first alternative.

byknow

I really do believe in this coin.Even more gorgeous in hand.

MGLICKER

Thank you for the clarification Barndog.

byknow: did you receive a details grade on the holder?

byknow

Yes

PCGS Genuine

Quest.Color- AU Details

and Overton number

byknow

Yes it did.

PCGS Genuine

Quest.Color - AU Details

Overton number

byknow

Yes

PCGS Genuine

Quest. Color -AU Details

Overton Number

BryceM

This can be a frustrating game at times.

When it comes to cracking out coins in "genuine" holders, those that were flagged for "questionable color" are the ones most likely to do OK the next trip through. It's not a sure thing though.

I remember one particular CBH that I bought in an NGC graded holder. I tried to cross it once and it didn't for the same reason. Frustrated, I sold it. I next saw it again in a dealer's case a few months later, this time in a PCGS holder with a straight grade. The asking price was also about 3 times what I had sold it for......

Edited to add..... if you just can't get it in the holder you want, just sell it and buy one that suits you. For this coin, I'd avoid restoration. All they're going to do is dip it and you'll end up with another dipped-out, boring coin, perhaps in a graded holder and perhaps again in a details holder.

byknow

From the pics I posted would it be worth trying again?

lasvegasteddy

don't even dip that in full strength solution

i'd try a 50-50 being extremely careful
"JUST LONG ENOUGH TO GET THAT BLUE OFF"
then a quick acetone dip...to remove dip resiidue
then distilled water and blow that water off
let it bask in open room air for a day or 2 then
resubmit it

it probably got exposed to ammonia from cleaning with windex around whatever storage it lived in

without that blue
i'd bet it grades
it's got to be what the graders didn't like...THAT BLUE

"the center" of that coin is awesome....definitely grade worthy color there

lkeigwin

Don't bother with restoration. Just send it in raw again. Depending on how strongly you feel about it you might try over and over, until it grades problem-free.
Lance.

MGLICKER

<< <i>From the pics I posted would it be worth trying again? >>



Sure. Many of us have submitted coins more than once.

lasvegasteddy

maybe just acetone might even lift that blue if it hasn't sit in

UtahCoin

<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>



I agree. It sure looks market acceptable to me.

DenverDave

Yes Try again...

puffer

Color looks real to me.

DollarAfterDollar

If your name is Newman you'll get a grade next time around.


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