Thinking of submitting a coin to this service.Coin was graded questionable color.Can they fix this and how likely is it to get a higher grade if numerically graded?
Was it given a numerical grade when deemed questionable? Depending on what the 'questionable color' is... it could even expose some surface damage and become 'no grade'.... Cheers RickO
i wouldn't think they'd touch a "questionable color" as the patina has been messed with they'd have to strip the patina off...not exactly what restoration presents itself to be they even state restoration won't remove toning...so it's patina friendly their process
if you do though update this thread
i have seen questionable color coins cracked out and resubmitted to come back graded with no problems
any chance you got an image of this prospect coin to display?
everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see
I had an 1890-s $20 that was MS62, old holder PCGS. I dipped in acetone and got a contact from NGC that it had residue still and if I gave the go ahead it would probably grade. It then graded MS63. PCGS is around the same in conservation. Deller's darkener had been used. With copper, etc., it is more problematic. If there is a question they may not go ahead unless you insist, when you could still have a problem coin.
if something goes through the secure plus process, it gets recorded. Regular submissions, no such thing. If someone believes in a coin, got to keep trying. It usually works if the coin is wholesome (cartoonish coloration need not apply). Could always dip it ... but that's not my recommendation as a first alternative.
When it comes to cracking out coins in "genuine" holders, those that were flagged for "questionable color" are the ones most likely to do OK the next trip through. It's not a sure thing though.
I remember one particular CBH that I bought in an NGC graded holder. I tried to cross it once and it didn't for the same reason. Frustrated, I sold it. I next saw it again in a dealer's case a few months later, this time in a PCGS holder with a straight grade. The asking price was also about 3 times what I had sold it for......
Edited to add..... if you just can't get it in the holder you want, just sell it and buy one that suits you. For this coin, I'd avoid restoration. All they're going to do is dip it and you'll end up with another dipped-out, boring coin, perhaps in a graded holder and perhaps again in a details holder.
i'd try a 50-50 being extremely careful "JUST LONG ENOUGH TO GET THAT BLUE OFF" then a quick acetone dip...to remove dip resiidue then distilled water and blow that water off let it bask in open room air for a day or 2 then resubmit it
it probably got exposed to ammonia from cleaning with windex around whatever storage it lived in
without that blue i'd bet it grades it's got to be what the graders didn't like...THAT BLUE
"the center" of that coin is awesome....definitely grade worthy color there
everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see
Don't bother with restoration. Just send it in raw again. Depending on how strongly you feel about it you might try over and over, until it grades problem-free. Lance.
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
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they'd have to strip the patina off...not exactly what restoration presents itself to be
they even state restoration won't remove toning...so it's patina friendly their process
if you do though
update this thread
i have seen questionable color coins cracked out and resubmitted to come back graded with no problems
any chance you got an image of this prospect coin to display?
WS
Chris' Complete Lincoln Variety Set 1909-date
<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>
Are they not archiving unique coin results?
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<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>
Are they not archiving unique coin results? >>
if something goes through the secure plus process, it gets recorded. Regular submissions, no such thing. If someone believes in a coin, got to keep trying. It usually works if the coin is wholesome (cartoonish coloration need not apply). Could always dip it ... but that's not my recommendation as a first alternative.
byknow: did you receive a details grade on the holder?
PCGS Genuine
Quest.Color- AU Details
and Overton number
PCGS Genuine
Quest.Color - AU Details
Overton number
PCGS Genuine
Quest. Color -AU Details
Overton Number
When it comes to cracking out coins in "genuine" holders, those that were flagged for "questionable color" are the ones most likely to do OK the next trip through. It's not a sure thing though.
I remember one particular CBH that I bought in an NGC graded holder. I tried to cross it once and it didn't for the same reason. Frustrated, I sold it. I next saw it again in a dealer's case a few months later, this time in a PCGS holder with a straight grade. The asking price was also about 3 times what I had sold it for......
Edited to add..... if you just can't get it in the holder you want, just sell it and buy one that suits you. For this coin, I'd avoid restoration. All they're going to do is dip it and you'll end up with another dipped-out, boring coin, perhaps in a graded holder and perhaps again in a details holder.
i'd try a 50-50 being extremely careful
"JUST LONG ENOUGH TO GET THAT BLUE OFF"
then a quick acetone dip...to remove dip resiidue
then distilled water and blow that water off
let it bask in open room air for a day or 2 then
resubmit it
it probably got exposed to ammonia from cleaning with windex around whatever storage it lived in
without that blue
i'd bet it grades
it's got to be what the graders didn't like...THAT BLUE
"the center" of that coin is awesome....definitely grade worthy color there
Lance.
<< <i>From the pics I posted would it be worth trying again? >>
Sure. Many of us have submitted coins more than once.
<< <i>crack it and submit it again >>
I agree. It sure looks market acceptable to me.
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