Why don't dealers include the coin photo when buying a coin

Mark

In today's digital world, when I buy a coin I wonder why dealers do not automatically include a copy of their photo of the coin. For example, when I win a coin in Heritage auction, why doesn't Heritage send me an email with their photo of the coin. I have neither the time nor the skill to take a picture as good as most dealers, so I'd value a photograph of the coin. And, sending me the photo would seem to be a really low-cost endeavor.

So, I guess, would anyone else like a photo from the dealer when they buy a coin?

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AUandAG

I agree.....you can use my images or whatever as you please on any coin purchased from me.

The pic of the coin comes with it as far as I'm concerned.....IF you like my pic you can keep it.

bob

EXOJUNKIE

<< <i>I'm no dealer, but when somebody buys a coin off me, as far as I'm concerned, they can use my images of the coin as they please. Just right click, save image as... and upload to your own hosting service and use as you please. >>

EXOJUNKIE

<< <i>I'm no dealer, but when somebody buys a coin off me, as far as I'm concerned, they can use my images of the coin as they please. Just right click, save image as... and upload to your own hosting service and use as you please. >>

BryceM

You can save images from Heritage anyoldtime.

Barndog

if I want the photo, I save the photo from the website

TopographicOceans

My coin photography skills suck, so I always save a picture from wherever I buy a coin online. Heritages are the best

But some sellers put watermarks, and some take worse pictures than I do, so there is a secondary market of coin photographers that do a good job.

SoCalBigMark

I did that thinking nothing of it and my buddy Hyperion freaked out, we are still not cool about it a year later even though I lost money on it.

MGLICKER

<< <i>I did that thinking nothing of it and my buddy Hyperion freaked out, we are still not cool about it a year later even though I lost money on it. >>



Send him some Knishes for the holidays!

Davideo

Of note, the dealer may not have the right to give the image away. Just because they can use the image doesn't mean they can transfer that privilege to others.

Bochiman

I don't expect them to send me the photo, proactively. While it may seem easy, and could be automated, many dealers are small shops, maybe sole proprietors, and that can add a lot of effort to them that others may think is easy.
What I have done is to ask the seller/dealer and they have either sent the email to me at that point, since I asked, or I could copy it from the webpage (I prefer asking as they may have higher res photos they can send me...and maybe more photos than shown on the webpage...different angles, etc).

So far, none have declined.

Cougar1978

I don't expect them to send me a photo. Sellers have a business to run and they are not my secretary.

If an online seller has good photos I can use I simply copy them (crop if necessary) and use them accordingly. Just right click and save as jpg.

MisterSmithGuesser

I think that's a really good idea. However, a photo of a coin might only to appeal to those wanting one to use it for their registry sets. And my guess is that the majority of coin buyers don't have registry sets. Nevertheless, I do think it's a good idea to include a high-resolution photo of a coin as an extra bonus. Because, what the hell, most of the time a seller is going to have to take a photo of a coin to sell it anyway. And once a coin is sold, the photo is basically worthless to the seller.

I thought for a minute that there might be some kind of copyright issue. Or that a seller like Heritage might not include a photo of a coin because they wouldn't want the buyer to try to immediately resell a coin at a higher price. But I actually think that sellers just haven't thought of including a photo with the sale as a bonus. Good idea.

ctf_error_coins

In reality, the coin is a product that is sold and the new owner gets to keep it.

Photography is an art and the photographer OWNS the image and copyright. and gets to keep it or give it away.

The two do not go hand in hand.

MGLICKER

<< <i>Photography is an art and the photographer OWNS the image and copyright. and gets to keep it or give it away. >>



...and no seller/photographer/DaVinci is obligated to offer the images, but many like myself do.

MICHAELDIXON

Whenever I purchase a coin, I normally ask the seller if it is alright if I download the photo and keep it. So far, I have never received a no answer.

Greeniejr

None of our images from our website are protected so a buyer is more than welcomed to take our picture. It is impractical to post the full size images because the marginal annoyance factor/benefit is so marginal so we post practical sized images. We almost always have super high resolution pictures for those who are inclined. The biggest key is just asking nicely.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>In today's digital world, when I buy a coin I wonder why dealers do not automatically include a copy of their photo of the coin. For example, when I win a coin in Heritage auction, why doesn't Heritage send me an email with their photo of the coin. I have neither the time nor the skill to take a picture as good as most dealers, so I'd value a photograph of the coin. And, sending me the photo would seem to be a really low-cost endeavor.

So, I guess, would anyone else like a photo from the dealer when they buy a coin? >>



Mostly because there is no real need to. Once logged in to the Heritage site just go to my auction archives and everything that you've ever purchased from Heritage will be there including pics.

mrearlygold

We do and have done so for years and years

roadrunner

It's a big improvement over 1998 when almost no one was doing photos. NGC offered their "photo proof" service for high valued coins. I had one done for my favorite coin. They even had to do it over since they got the verbage wrong on this particular coin and I wanted in perfect. So I ended up with 2 for the price of 1. One went with the coin at auction in 2004 (to Gene Gardner) and the other photo proof resides with me as a memory of what once was. I recall the price of those back then was $50-$75. It wasn't cheap. But, I'm glad I had it done as going on the internet is not quite the same thing. The auction photo at that time wasn't all that great either.

A buyer could certainly make a professional photo part of the deal when negotiating on a purchase....maybe on coins valued well into 5 figures. That isn't going to fly very well at an auction though. Collecting photos is a lot cheaper than collecting the actual coins.

SeattleSlammer

Did someone say that Heritage has the best photos?

AMRC

I have never had anyone ask for the photos. Maybe that may mean they do not care for my photography, or are getting then on-line themselves, or simply do not wish to have one, I do not know. But I would have no problem sending them if anyone were to ask.

jayPem

<< <i>None of our images from our website are protected so a buyer is more than welcomed to take our picture. It is impractical to post the full size images because the marginal annoyance factor/benefit is so marginal so we post practical sized images. We almost always have super high resolution pictures for those who are inclined. The biggest key is just asking nicely. >>



Thank goodness ! Now I can rest easy looking at this lovely pic that I copied from you guys after buying the coin...


seriously, I wonder if this a case of the OP simply not knowing how simple it is to copy and save an image off of the internet ?
Copying the image of a coin that I've purchased into my archives I do always...using that image on ebay is a different matter. I always take my own, or pay to have them taken..

Mark

Stupid double post.

Mark

jayPem:

I know how to save pictures (and have used the ability to great advantage when sending emails ridiculing my colleagues ). My concern revolves around using the photo without permission. If they sent me the photo, I presume permission would come along with the photo.

Cameonut

<< <i>Whenever I purchase a coin, I normally ask the seller if it is alright if I download the photo and keep it. So far, I have never received a no answer. >>



+1

BillJones

<< <i>In today's digital world, when I buy a coin I wonder why dealers do not automatically include a copy of their photo of the coin. For example, when I win a coin in Heritage auction, why doesn't Heritage send me an email with their photo of the coin. I have neither the time nor the skill to take a picture as good as most dealers, so I'd value a photograph of the coin. And, sending me the photo would seem to be a really low-cost endeavor.

So, I guess, would anyone else like a photo from the dealer when they buy a coin? >>



The cost of doing this is not as you might believe. They would have to develop software to match the pictures with the invoices. On top of that if you buy multiple coins, it would very quickly exceed the storage space that can be attached to an email.

TopographicOceans

<< <i>Did someone say that Heritage has the best photos? >>



You're right I'll take that back. I will say they have the biggest photos. Sometimes you can get a nice toning surprise.

I don't buy anything on-line without seeing a photo, so for me there is always a picture available.
Of course they're not consistent from different sources so I guess dealer photos aren't really worth the effort.

MFH

When I buy a coin, or I should say, immediately before I buy the coin,
I copy the dealer's or auction house's images. ( Many dealers are quick
to take down their images, so best to do so before they delete them.)

Eventually, I have professional images taken.

TwoSides2aCoin

I'm reminded of a song. Guess that tune.


"Faded photograph. Covered now with lines and creases.
Tickets torn in half. Memories in bits and pieces. Traces of _ _ _ _ , long ago, that didn't work out right. "