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SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
Thought about whether to post this or not and decided to do so.

I am moving into the 21st century, belatedly. My law practice has launched a website as part of a revamping of same. Hopefully it will be successful, including bringing in some legal work that involves coins (I had two of those about 8 years ago one which involved a few coins and about 80,000 vintage records).

If anyone wants to take a look, send me a PM and I will reply PM with the address.

To keep this post arguably coin related, I will say that about 10 days ago I picked up from a local shop an OGP 1953 proof set containing a Cameo half dollar that surprisingly is one struck from original dies [instead of the usual 1953 Cameo half dollar struck from repolished dies]. This is the first 1953 Cameo half I have found that was struck from original dies.

P.S. I am looking eagerly forward to seeing the Court Of Appeal decision in the Langbord case.

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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Always great to hear about you, the cases, and your perspectives. You give a unique viewpoint and we value your input.

    Thanks . . and good luck!

    Drunner
    (Doilys now and forever)
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best of luck with the site and thanks for your faithful forum updates re:Langbord.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats... still behind the technology curve here and the sound of either a 78 rpm record or vinyl has never been better.

    Back to coins. How do you tell the difference on the 1953 half? Mine has a decent and near deep cameo on the reverse and the obverse was not enough. Is there a specific pattern to die polish for this date?

    I apologize in advance if this was part of another thread I missed

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thought about whether to post this or not and decided to do so.

    I am moving into the 21st century, belatedly. My law practice has launched a website as part of a revamping of same. Hopefully it will be successful, including bringing in some legal work that involves coins (I had two of those about 8 years ago one which involved a few coins and about 80,000 vintage records).

    If anyone wants to take a look, send me a PM and I will reply PM with the address.

    To keep this post arguably coin related, I will say that about 10 days ago I picked up from a local shop an OGP 1953 proof set containing a Cameo half dollar that surprisingly is one struck from original dies [instead of the usual 1953 Cameo half dollar struck from repolished dies]. This is the first 1953 Cameo half I have found that was struck from original dies.

    P.S. I am looking eagerly forward to seeing the Court Of Appeal decision in the Langbord case. >>



    Great news and thanks for sharing. A coin collector never knows when he'll need a lawyer because a coin transaction goes bad.




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    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope it does generate some coin biz.

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    congrats and best wishes on the growth too

    what a lil score on the 53 half
    update some images when ya can as well as grade he acquires too image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Isn't "vintage records" redundant these days? image

    Best of luck with the new site and new direction for the firm!

    Was that 1953 proof set set aside for you, or was finding the cameo half a cherrypick?

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Good deal!
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all your work over the years on the Langbold case!! That alone should make everyone here sensitive to your web site and not beat you up over announcing it here. I, for one, appreciate the information. Good Luck!!
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I've read great posts from you regarding your legal opinions in coin related matters here, so please continue to keep us informed even while your busy with your work.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on moving forward! You'll now be the legal go-to coin guy!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations. It's easier to ride a horse in the direction it's going.

    Now if we could only get you to post an occasional pic once in a while....then I'd say you crossed the threshold into the 21st century. image

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the props.

    Regarding the 1953 half dollar, I found the set while hunting. The shop owner had set it aside for another customer who never came back to pick it up. After sitting around unclaimed for a long time the owner showed the set to me and was willing to sell (too bad for the other customer).

    1953 proof half dollars (including Cameos) that were struck by repolished dies have countless die polishing lines present on the devices (and sometimes they extend into the surrounding fields). The die polishing lines are of different shapes, including straight, curved and swirling. Some of these lines are light and faint and others are abusively thick (almost like what you see when you rub a coin with steel wool). Once you see these lines on an early 50's proof Franklin you will not forget them. These coins look completely different from a late 50,s and early 60's proof half dollar.

    The 1953 half I snagged has no die polishing lines. It looks like a 1962 Cameo proof half with smooth, creamy frosted devices.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is Bodin going to star in your tv commercials?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Regarding the 1953 half dollar, I found the set while hunting. The shop owner had set it aside for another customer who never came back to pick it up. After sitting around unclaimed for a long time the owner showed the set to me and was willing to sell (too bad for the other customer).

    Ummm, I hate to bring this up, but I am the "other customer" in this situation. I was going to get the coin on Tuesday. This is very, very awkward SanctionII, but may I ask what legal remedies I have against you in this particular matter?
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's no way it left the shop legally

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Regarding the 1953 half dollar, I found the set while hunting. The shop owner had set it aside for another customer who never came back to pick it up. After sitting around unclaimed for a long time the owner showed the set to me and was willing to sell (too bad for the other customer).

    Ummm, I hate to bring this up, but I am the "other customer" in this situation. I was going to get the coin on Tuesday. This is very, very awkward SanctionII, but may I ask what legal remedies I have against you in this particular matter? >>

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Numisma gets the post of the day award.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Numisma.

    When lawyers are requested by a potential new client for legal help, one of the first things lawyers do (beside getting paid a large retainer up front) is listen to the potential client tell their story. In listening to the story and observing the potential new client the attorney gets to employ his or her spider sense (aka BS Meter) and evaluate his or her credibility.

    Though it may come as a surprise, clients often fail to tell the attorney all of the story and at times simply lie to the attorney. Shocking, I know.

    So before I will consider giving advice, please give me your story and do not leave out anything. After you do I can assess same and we can go from there. Keep in mind the likely conflict of interest that would arise if I gave you legal advice about what rights you have against meimage
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Sanction, I see exactly where you are going with this, and I agree with you that we should settle this matter out of court. My proposal is that I be awarded full custody of the 1953 proof set, although you will be granted supervised visitation of the set on the third Sunday of each month. Plus you will have to pay monthly maintenance support in the amount of $15 to assure the safe storage of said 1953 proof set. Dessicant is getting to be expensive.






    All kidding aside, congrats on the nice Frankie acquisition and on your new website. Also, thanks for educating us on the issue of original proof early Franklin dies. I was not aware of that.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Numisma.

    I was waiting for the details, including the location of the shop, name of the owner, sale price, when you secured the set and why you had not picked it up on time. If you had provided these details that would have been interesting. In that case maybe we both could sue each other and the shop owner for emotional distressimage
  • I aslo wish you the best of luck in your new endeavor and I appreciate your post very much. I also have learned something new tonight and thank you for that. My question is , is a premium applied due to the original dies being used on the proof set you purchased and if so what is the spread?
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not know if their is a premium on this particular coin, or proof set with this coin. I bought the set for modest money. No premium was charged.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations on your website and thanks for your updates on the Langbord case. Nice find on the '53 CAM....Cheers, RickO
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My thanks to those of you who have taken a look and given me feedbackimage

    It is also nice to have PM discussions about the 1953 half dollar struck from original dies.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the more enjoyable thread reads I've had in a while!image

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