<< <i>I see the word "slimy" being tossed around in regard to buyers who ask for a lower shipping price, but no one seems to question the idea of making a profit of $2.37 off the shipping price. I understand the rationale behind the original charge of $6, but once the final value was determined, wouldn't the least-slimy thing be to send an invoice with a lower, actual amount for shipping + insurance? >>
If it's clearly stated as the shipping cost.. I don't see what the issue is. >>
I thought I made my position clear, but I'll write it again. I don't have any problem at all with the $6 charge. What I have a problem with is receiving the 3 oz First Class bubble mailer with $1.50 in insurance with my card in a penny sleeve inside a layer of bubble wrap. If you're going to charge me $6 for shipping, give me $6 worth. Don't pocket a couple of bucks and then hide behind "you knew what the cost was".
I just paid $13 shipping for a rack box. It came Priority Mail ($12+) and wrapped very carefully. I was beyond happy with the service. If I had paid $13 and it came Parcel Post, I would have been pissed. I hope you see the difference there. >>
I agree with this completely~to me, it's not such the stated shipping cost as how the item is shipped. I don't mind paying a few bucks more if item is boxed and shipped securely. If I pay $5.85 shipping for priority mail, don't send the item in a plain envelope with no padding for a buck and change.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
You didn't get what you paid for. If the item bought was well packed, arrives safe and sound, since you agreed to buy it at stated shipping price you should not complain.
You are arguing bad shipping packaging practices. The op is just arguing shipping price/overcharge/discount. >>
But I think it has some relevance, because the OP wasn't going to charge less (the actual cost) until he was asked.
<< <i>You are arguing bad shipping packaging practices. The op is just arguing shipping price/overcharge/discount. >>
It's a response to the logic that "it's all money - who cares how much the item price is and who cares how much the shipping price is - the final price is the same and the buyer should take that into account and come to a total price that they are comfortable paying".
That is true, but only part of the story: shipping costs create expectations. Falling short on those expectations creates unhappy buyers.
<< <i>S/H is clearly stated so it's not "hiding" profit. >>
If you charge me $6 for shipping and pay $1.93 to ship the item, it is absolutely "hiding" profit. >>
I guess it's personal preference? If I receive my item in the condition described I don't give a damn how anyone wants to break down their cost. If it doesn't arrive that way, I'm covered by ebay and paypal. I have no desire to get into a philosophical argument with an ebay seller about how the price I agreed to should be presented.
ETA: there's no rule or law that a seller has to charge exact shipping. It's shipping and handling.
I guess it's personal preference? If I receive my item in the condition described I don't give a damn how anyone wants to break down their cost. If it doesn't arrive that way, I'm covered by ebay and paypal. I have no desire to get into a philosophical argument with an ebay seller about how the price I agreed to should be presented.
ETA: there's no rule or law that a seller has to charge exact shipping. It's shipping and handling. >>
If it was such a non-issue, eBay wouldn't have one of their four rating categories specifically tied to S&H charges.
<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement.
<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement. >>
Okay.
It's a big enough issue for a $69 billion company to make it one of four things it asks buyers to evaluate. Shipping-price gougers are a problem. If you don't mind paying $4 extra for nothing, more power to you.
<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement. >>
Okay.
It's a big enough issue for a $69 billion company to make it one of four things it asks buyers to evaluate. Shipping-price gougers are a problem. If you don't mind paying $4 extra for nothing, more power to you. >>
But I factor S/H into my price. So I'm not paying $4 extra for nothing, I'm paying the price I'm comfortable with for the item, including delivery. How the seller breaks it down and presents it doesn't matter to me as long as the item arrives safe and sound. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But it's certainly not worth me opening dialogue with the seller over.
"But I factor S/H into my price. So I'm not paying $4 extra for nothing, I'm paying the price I'm comfortable with for the item, including delivery. How the seller breaks it down and presents it doesn't matter to me as long as the item arrives safe and sound. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But it's certainly not worth me opening dialogue with the seller over."
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<< <i>I see the word "slimy" being tossed around in regard to buyers who ask for a lower shipping price, but no one seems to question the idea of making a profit of $2.37 off the shipping price. I understand the rationale behind the original charge of $6, but once the final value was determined, wouldn't the least-slimy thing be to send an invoice with a lower, actual amount for shipping + insurance? >>
If it's clearly stated as the shipping cost.. I don't see what the issue is. >>
I thought I made my position clear, but I'll write it again. I don't have any problem at all with the $6 charge. What I have a problem with is receiving the 3 oz First Class bubble mailer with $1.50 in insurance with my card in a penny sleeve inside a layer of bubble wrap. If you're going to charge me $6 for shipping, give me $6 worth. Don't pocket a couple of bucks and then hide behind "you knew what the cost was".
I just paid $13 shipping for a rack box. It came Priority Mail ($12+) and wrapped very carefully. I was beyond happy with the service. If I had paid $13 and it came Parcel Post, I would have been pissed. I hope you see the difference there. >>
I agree with this completely~to me, it's not such the stated shipping cost as how the item is shipped. I don't mind paying a few bucks more if item is boxed and shipped securely. If I pay $5.85 shipping for priority mail, don't send the item in a plain envelope with no padding for a buck and change.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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I see the difference here.
You didn't get what you paid for. If the item bought was well packed, arrives safe and sound, since you agreed to buy it at stated shipping price you should not complain.
You are arguing bad shipping packaging practices. The op is just arguing shipping price/overcharge/discount. >>
But I think it has some relevance, because the OP wasn't going to charge less (the actual cost) until he was asked.
<< <i>You are arguing bad shipping packaging practices. The op is just arguing shipping price/overcharge/discount. >>
It's a response to the logic that "it's all money - who cares how much the item price is and who cares how much the shipping price is - the final price is the same and the buyer should take that into account and come to a total price that they are comfortable paying".
That is true, but only part of the story: shipping costs create expectations. Falling short on those expectations creates unhappy buyers.
<< <i>S/H is clearly stated so it's not "hiding" profit. >>
If you charge me $6 for shipping and pay $1.93 to ship the item, it is absolutely "hiding" profit.
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<< <i>S/H is clearly stated so it's not "hiding" profit. >>
If you charge me $6 for shipping and pay $1.93 to ship the item, it is absolutely "hiding" profit. >>
I guess it's personal preference? If I receive my item in the condition described I don't give a damn how anyone wants to break down their cost. If it doesn't arrive that way, I'm covered by ebay and paypal. I have no desire to get into a philosophical argument with an ebay seller about how the price I agreed to should be presented.
ETA: there's no rule or law that a seller has to charge exact shipping. It's shipping and handling.
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I guess it's personal preference? If I receive my item in the condition described I don't give a damn how anyone wants to break down their cost. If it doesn't arrive that way, I'm covered by ebay and paypal. I have no desire to get into a philosophical argument with an ebay seller about how the price I agreed to should be presented.
ETA: there's no rule or law that a seller has to charge exact shipping. It's shipping and handling. >>
If it was such a non-issue, eBay wouldn't have one of their four rating categories specifically tied to S&H charges.
<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap.
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<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement.
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<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement. >>
Okay.
It's a big enough issue for a $69 billion company to make it one of four things it asks buyers to evaluate. Shipping-price gougers are a problem. If you don't mind paying $4 extra for nothing, more power to you.
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<< <i>Ebay being the bastion of logic and reasoning that it is. >>
I wish I could be illogical and irrational enough to stumble my way into a $69 billion market cap. >>
The issue is an ethical one (or at least that's the way it's being purported in this thread). It has nothing to do with ebay's profit margin. Like I said earlier, this is most likely a personal preference issue so there isn't going to be complete agreement. >>
Okay.
It's a big enough issue for a $69 billion company to make it one of four things it asks buyers to evaluate. Shipping-price gougers are a problem. If you don't mind paying $4 extra for nothing, more power to you. >>
But I factor S/H into my price. So I'm not paying $4 extra for nothing, I'm paying the price I'm comfortable with for the item, including delivery. How the seller breaks it down and presents it doesn't matter to me as long as the item arrives safe and sound. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But it's certainly not worth me opening dialogue with the seller over.
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and ship the item, another....
<< <i> Responds back with "wrap with bubble wrap and 2 pieces of cardboard. shouldn't need insurance but ok" >>
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