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I got these 2 Buffs back from grading. Ya wanna try and and guess how they turned out? Grades revea
crazyhounddog
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I just received these 2 Buffs back from pcgs for grading. The 26-d I know for sure I posted when I purchased it, not sure about the 13-s type 2. This type 2 has some serious cashing on both obverse and reverse and the color I find attractive along with better than average luster. So, here they are again, but now they've been graded. Ya wanna take a stab at the grades?
Thanks for looking, Joe
Thanks for looking, Joe
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MS64
AU58
Hoard the keys.
if this was in a typical "out of focus ebay image"...i'd be guessing it to be a f/vf
nice 3 half feathers as i don't see a single feather that qualifies as one...
1913...ms62
very tricky ones to even guess a grade on
are you on a strike from "strike"
as that other 16-d gtg thread has me worried ol crazyhounddog...
buffalo nickels do look sweet in "fully struck condition" too just so ya know...
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The second one looks MS62ish to me.
26- 62
13 - 64 I admit I like this one a lot….
64
I like the 13-s as well. If not for the odd striking issues on "liberty," the date, and other areas it's close to gem.
The 26-d is a good exercise in how an unc coin can look VF. Reminds me of 1903-0 Barber halves.
<< <i>MS63
MS64
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My first thought
Steve
MS65
.......noticing lots of different guessed grades
https://imdb.com/name/nm1835107/
2nd one is only
they look a lot better on the big screen instead of the phone.
<< <i>1st one is
2nd one is only
they look a lot better on the big screen instead of the phone. >>
Your going to have to do better than this!!! Not understood, does not compute.
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<< <i>63, 64+ >>
This guess wouldnt shock me
<< <i>62
64
I like the 13-s as well. If not for the odd striking issues on "liberty," the date, and other areas it's close to gem.
The 26-d is a good exercise in how an unc coin can look VF. Reminds me of 1903-0 Barber halves. >>
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Tom
AU55
62
<< <i>The 26-d is a good exercise in how an unc coin can look VF. >>
Well said. Usually love your Buffs, Joe, but the weak strike on this one doesn't appeal. Maybe a 62.
On the other hand, I'd take the 13-S in a heartbeat. Really like the toning. Appears to have some wear on the hip. I'd give it a 58
I don't know how anyone can even grade 1926-D Buffaloes sometimes. The Denver mint wasn't trying hard enough when they struck these.
I wasn't aware of how little the price spread is on this date from XF40 to MS62. From AU50 to AU58 there's almost no difference....therefore, eye appeal would play a big role in separating those.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-D-Buffalo-Indian-Head-Nickel-NGC-MS63-Q2445-/361112688447?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item5413fe573f[/L]
This coin has no face, no front feet and no tail (on reverse)
Sorry I didn't know how to attach link.
<< <i>I guess I'm a disenchanted newbie to coin collecting. I thought coins were graded on a scale of 1-70 based on details. I didn't know they were graded on a curve based on strike. I guess we don't want to offend the weak strikes. I call them how I see them. I call a spade a spade. I'm glad I collect mostly raw coins and I think this makes me want to stay away from the graded coins that much more. I cant believe they would grade a coin ms 63 in the link below and throw out a coin that may or may not have been cleaned. I would be much happier with a verification service to make sure the coins are genuine than someones opinion of what a coin grades.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-D-Buffalo-Indian-Head-Nickel-NGC-MS63-Q2445-/361112688447?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item5413fe573f[/L]
This coin has no face, no front feet and no tail (on reverse)
Sorry I didn't know how to attach link. >>
I think I've got step 1 down:
It is worn?
Yes - 0-58(+)
No - 60-70
And Step 2 is the place where debate can lie:
Worn - how worn? well a weak strike and make it look more worn than one with a strong strike. The idea is to grade it based off how much metal is gone by looking at the details... but also considering the strike. If it is a weak strike then it will appear to have more metal removed, but in reality that is not true. So, some correction is given for that.
Not Worn - what are the other issues like bag marks and spots? as far as I know strike does not come into play here unless it is an eye appeal issue factored into the + for PCGS.
So, forumites, am I a kool-aid drinker here?
<< <i>So far only one guy got it right. I'll post the grades here in a bit after I image the slabs. >>
I don't think 2 people have come up with the same grades.
Also, was it me?
https://imdb.com/name/nm1835107/
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with these secondary images i feel ripped off or something here...
if i went to sell them...i'd use images #2
sweet examples there crazyhounddog
thanks for sharing part of the herd
<< <i>well crap
with these secondary images i feel ripped off or something here...
if i went to sell them...i'd use images #2
sweet examples there crazyhounddog
thanks for sharing part of the herd >>
Anything for my buddy Ted.
Shaky system right now. Nothing takes. And then all the posts you thought you deleted all show up at once.
<< <i>If that is AU58 then I'll eat what's leftover after ryk eats his ipad! >>
It only came back AU58 once. That doesn't mean that on another try it can't come back MS. It might also be true that these coins are not 4 grades apart. They were on this day.
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<< <i>That '26-D looks much more lustrous in the slab than on the initial image. >>
Honestly the 26-d is pretty low on luster. I believe the 26-d got the grade of 63 because of the few blemishes associated with this particular one, the strike is mostly found mushy. I believe it would have graded 61/62 if there were more hits or bag marks. For this date big strikes and luster are pretty far in between. You can find them and you'll also find a large price tag with em. Thanks to all for playing along. Joe
<< <i>That '26-D looks much more lustrous in the slab than on the initial image. >>
I was thinking the same thing.