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4SharpCorners was fast with that one....

I bought a Jack Lambert 1981 Topps Sticker Psa 9 that I needed to fill out my Master Topps Set. They don't come up often so I pulled the trigger as soon as I saw it. I check multiple times a day to see if something comes up, so I know this was only up for a very, very short time. So today I see they have another one posted. OK, not too unusual. I've seen that happen before. But they DOUBLED the price of what I paid for it less than 24 hours earlier. I'm happy I got it a "half price" I guess............image


Since a lot of people think this was pointless, this thread needs to wither away. Wasn't going for ANYTHING else but to point out how FAST their raised the price. Nothing else.
Somehow this got all twisted out of shape. Live and learn...image
1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
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  • DavisDavis Posts: 705 ✭✭
    Isn't it good business to sell for the highest amount they can while keeping the buyer satisfied? Not sure I'd call it greed.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    I guess you got them excited with your fast purchase ha!
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Isn't it good business to sell for the highest amount they can while keeping the buyer satisfied? Not sure I'd call it greed. >>



    By doubling the price in 24 hours? It's not going to sell at that price so explain to me how that is good business.
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  • bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Isn't it good business to sell for the highest amount they can while keeping the buyer satisfied? Not sure I'd call it greed. >>



    By doubling the price in 24 hours? It's not going to sell at that price so explain to me how that is good business. >>



    Maybe they are thinking that it sold so quickly at the previous price, that maybe they undervalued it and need to set a higher price target.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    Maybe they are thinking that it sold so quickly at the previous price, that maybe they undervalued it and need to set a higher price target. >>



    Trust me they constantly OVER value a lot of the cards they sell..........RARELY and I mean RARELY undervalue anything.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have noticed that they will bump up the price if it looks better than the grade. They listed a PSA 9 Johnny Bench rookie for well over 2 grand I believe it was 2,700 and some change and it sold in about 1 week. The going rate for a PSA 9 Bench rookie is 1,200-1,500. That PSA 9 was perfectly centered and could have easily passed for a 10. Not sure if that is the case with the Lambert. How does the newly listed one compare to the one you bought?
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Far be it from me to stop someone from criticizaing 4SC, but I don't see a problem with this at all. If you search on ebay for cards by BIN they're almost always the cheapest price. Now granted, their 10's are usually on the lower-end of 10 centering, but still.

    If no one is going to buy it at their new price, what do you care?
  • No problems here, either. If they've overpriced, it won't sell and their "greed" gets them nothing. That's the market.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have noticed that they will bump up the price if it looks better than the grade. They listed a PSA 9 Johnny Bench rookie for well over 2 grand I believe it was 2,700 and some change and it sold in about 1 week. The going rate for a PSA 9 Bench rookie is 1,200-1,500. That PSA 9 was perfectly centered and could have easily passed for a 10. Not sure if that is the case with the Lambert. How does the newly listed one compare to the one you bought? >>




    both look the same.......a little off center...lol
    Listen no one is trying to dictate what they can get for their cards. If they have to keep dropping the price until it sells, that's their fault.
    I'm just trying to point out that DAMN, that price hike was lightning fast.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unlike many other sellers who list their items at outrageous prices, 4SC drops the price if the item doesn't sell.

    Don't see any reason to complain about their pricing in this case. OP states that this is a hard to find item.

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  • Who the hell is jack lambert ?
  • Oh...
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4EdmIB2kRFc

    Can someone send me a link to the sticker listing?
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭
    Who the hell is Don Mattingly?
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Who the hell is jack lambert ? >>



    I'm getting old and starting to feel it now...... image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doubling in price is also a relative phrase. Doubling price from $10 to $20 certainly isn't the same as doubling the price from $250 to $500. That said, it must have been rather attractively priced for you to have hit the BIN so quickly in the first place. I have found that their pricing is typically rather reasonable for the most part. The title of this thread is not really accurate.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Doubling in price is also a relative phrase. Doubling price from $10 to $20 certainly isn't the same as doubling the price from $250 to $500. That said, it must have been rather attractively priced for you to have hit the BIN so quickly in the first place. I have found that their pricing is typically rather reasonable for the most part. The title of this thread is not really accurate. >>



    Actually the last one before mine sold for $15.................I bought mine for $24.99 and 24 hours later they went to $49.99
    $24.99 was pushing it, but close enough..........$49.99 will collect dust.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭
    Did they honor your sale? If so, I don't see an issue. If they don't ship your card, then it's a different story.

    Must be Todd Haley's fault image

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  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did they honor your sale? If so, I don't see an issue. If they don't ship your card, then it's a different story.

    Must be Todd Haley's fault image >>



    Listen, I DO NOT CARE what somebody else is going to pay for the card I have already.... Who would? They have every right to jack the price up. I just think it's a waste of time for that card to double it in price so fast. The "new" one(at 24.99) might have sat there a while, but we'll never know............I wish they would drop prices as fast as they raise them though image
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Something simar happened to me when I purchased an 84 o pee Chee wax box from a known website, as soon as I bought it they bumped it to 109.99.

    I don't think of it as "greed" necessarily because they are a business and need to keep up with current prices to maximize profits. But doubling the price does seem a bit extreme though.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Something simar happened to me when I purchased an 84 o pee Chee wax box from a known website, as soon as I bought it they bumped it to 109.99.

    I don't think of it as "greed" necessarily because they are a business and need to keep up with current prices to maximize profits. But doubling the price does seem a bit extreme though. >>



    That's all I'm saying......they sold 1....hardly a judge of "we need to raise the price to keep up with current prices" ........never gave it a chance
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This thread is completely unnecessary. >>



    Sorry this thread is bothering you...........is this beneath you?


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  • They quite often bump the second card if the first one sells quickly.
    I agree that most of their cards are at the higher end of pricing.

    I still don't get how they come up with as many 10's as they do.image
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So you hopped on it like s#it through a goose at $25 but $50 is a bridge too far? I don't get it.

    In my experience, they're actually rather quick at dropping prices if cards don't sell so not sure what you're complaining about there. I keep tabs on close to 300 cards on ebay and they're always the lowest BIN price. Now, if you wanted to complain about the centering for the grade on their cards, I could understand that.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They quite often bump the second card if the first one sells quickly.
    I agree that most of their cards are at the higher end of pricing.

    I still don't get how they come up with as many 10's as they do.image >>



    Seriously? I'm not doubting you at all, but it has been my experience that their BINs are lower than anything else on ebay. Perhaps auction prices go lower, but they're not in the list-200,000 cards-at-auction-every-week game.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>This thread is completely unnecessary. >>



    but not as completely unnecessary as football players celebrating in super slo-mo.


  • << <i>

    << <i>They quite often bump the second card if the first one sells quickly.
    I agree that most of their cards are at the higher end of pricing.

    I still don't get how they come up with as many 10's as they do.image >>



    Seriously? I'm not doubting you at all, but it has been my experience that their BINs are lower than anything else on ebay. Perhaps auction prices go lower, but they're not in the list-200,000 cards-at-auction-every-week game. >>



    I buy Hockey and they seem to start them pretty high. Then after a while they drop the prices until they sell. I've been following some of their cards for over a year waiting for them to be reasonably priced.
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So you hopped on it like s#it through a goose at $25 but $50 is a bridge too far? I don't get it.


    From $25 to $50 is a 100% increase. It's no different than if a card increased from 2,500 to 5,000. It's all relevant.
    If a card is worth 20-30, then paying 50 is nuts. Just my opinion.

  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your complaint is asinine. Seller can charge whatever he wants. Maybe the next guy will be thrilled to pay double what you did. Maybe you should just be happy with your purchase. Let them do what they will. IT's their card. You have NO say in what they want for it. >>



    Obviously I am happy I didn't have to pay double what they are asking now. I am NOT COMPLAINING because I have the card at the lower price. Just thought it was funny how lightning fast they raised the price.
    Everybody knows what free market is. Don't act like your spreading knowledge in that area.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭
    Agree with Reggie. They are almost always the lowest BIN. If the card deserves the grade I'm happy to buy from them. If it doesn't I move on. What I have bought from them has been well priced and despite this particular issue from OP, I've found them to be a solid outfit if you maintain the but the card, not the holder/price. In this case the subject is a bit misleading as they are likely testing the waters. Doesn't seem much different from a huge BIN w/ BO option, if the intent is to gradually lower until there's a buyer. I doubt a $25-50 card collecting a few weeks of dust will even register for them, and you'd be hard pressed (I think) to find many more examples like this.

    2 cents nobody asked for.
    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So you hopped on it like s#it through a goose at $25 but $50 is a bridge too far? I don't get it.

    In my experience, they're actually rather quick at dropping prices if cards don't sell so not sure what you're complaining about there. I keep tabs on close to 300 cards on ebay and they're always the lowest BIN price. Now, if you wanted to complain about the centering for the grade on their cards, I could understand that. >>



    Yes at $25 I bought......$50 I would have passed like everybody else (well there are suckers out there).
    As far as them dropping prices quickly, I don't know what planet your on. I waited for a year for them to drop a price that was reasonable once.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, if you go through their site instead of ebay you get better pricing and free shipping for orders over $50 or $75.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Agree with Reggie. They are almost always the lowest BIN. If the card deserves the grade I'm happy to buy from them. If it doesn't I move on. What I have bought from them has been well priced and despite this particular issue from OP, I've found them to be a solid outfit if you maintain the but the card, not the holder/price. In this case the subject is a bit misleading as they are likely testing the waters. Doesn't seem much different from a huge BIN w/ BO option, if the intent is to gradually lower until there's a buyer. I doubt a $25-50 card collecting a few weeks of dust will even register for them, and you'd be hard pressed (I think) to find many more examples like this.

    2 cents nobody asked for. >>



    Point taken. These don't come up for auction very often because most people don't bother to get a 1981 sticker graded, NOT because it is rare Like a lot of the Steeler police issues as well.
    I have bought a ton from them because sometimes they are the only ones offering a certain card that a lot of people won't send in to get graded.

    I realize the subject is a $25 card......not everybody is spending thousands on cards
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Your complaint is asinine. Seller can charge whatever he wants. Maybe the next guy will be thrilled to pay double what you did. Maybe you should just be happy with your purchase. Let them do what they will. IT's their card. You have NO say in what they want for it. >>



    Obviously I am happy I didn't have to pay double what they are asking now. I am NOT COMPLAINING because I have the card at the lower price. Just thought it was funny how lightning fast they raised the price.
    Everybody knows what free market is. Don't act like your spreading knowledge in that area. >>





    You're publicly admonishing a business for being in your opinion "greedy". Even though we are all greedy, including I'm sure YOU, we could cite ENDLESS examples of ebay sellers who behave much more eggregiously. This was about the lamest example one could cite. >>



    Sorry your majesty
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the things I like about 4SC is that they show you the card you're buying. If you don't like a particular example, wait until it sells and see the one they relist. I've passed on many of their cards only to pull the trigger on the next example. I think a lot of companies dealing in the volume they deal with would just toss up a stock photo, and that would suck.

    But congrats on finding a card you wanted at a price you were happy with. Sorry the next person might have to pay more than you.
  • This might just be the most important thread since the $0.50 Video City pack resealer was outed.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You darn well should be but not towards me >>



    You know you have stepped in it when the board comes to 4SC defense.

    I have read every post and the title is slander.

    If you are selling illiquid stock you place staggered limit orders. An up book. If a buyer grabs a lot at the lowest price quickly you are looking for higher prices on the next lot.

    Enjoy your card and move on.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭
    Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs. Maybe you should go to the 52 Mantle or 86 Jordan threads instead.
    Believe it or not to some people going to $25 to $50 is a big jump.
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs.[/


    Most of the cards I buy are cheap. You need to re read the title of your thread.

    I don't consider greed bad but clearly you do. They sell cards for profit. Pretty simple.

    You started a thread in a derogatory manner and people don't agree with your view.

    Move on.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs. Maybe you should go to the 52 Mantle or 86 Jordan threads instead.
    Believe it or not to some people going to $25 to $50 is a big jump. >>



    Not sure that's it. If I dropped $1,000 on a card I had been pining for and was happy with the price, I probably wouldn't even notice that another one got listed for $2,000.
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs.[/


    Most of the cards I buy are cheap. You need to re read the title of your thread.

    I don't consider greed bad but clearly you do. They sell cards for profit. Pretty simple.

    You started a thread in a derogatory manner and people don't agree with your view.

    Move on. >>



    Or you could move on possibly?
    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs.[/


    Most of the cards I buy are cheap. You need to re read the title of your thread.

    I don't consider greed bad but clearly you do. They sell cards for profit. Pretty simple.

    You started a thread in a derogatory manner and people don't agree with your view.

    Move on. >>



    Sorry "master collector"............by the way telling someone to move on probably means they won't. >>




    I don't think anyone on the board takes the title under their board name serious. I know I don't.


    Keep going then. You will just be providing entertainment.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    Whole lot of complaining by the OP, who says he's "not complaining." And for the record, this is coming from a guy (me) who considers $25-30 on a card to be the limit of his budget. I post 5-cent Tippett cards for crying out loud. But speaking of crying, enough whining about capitalism and your warped sense of righteousness. If they want to charge a billion dollars for the card and never sell it, what do you care? It doesn't affect you or your collection. I know, I know, you're "not complaining." Better check that forum rule about slander, buddy.
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭


    << <i>Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs. >>



    Says the guy who has (recently) ridiculed what others collect.

    That aside, there are MANY on here who collect mid/low grade cards or relatively inexpensive players... they don't get grief from all the "card snobs" you profess inhabit the board.

    Perhaps they are reacting to the way you presented your argument instead of the dollar amount?

    Snorto~
  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭
    Going to bed........big day at 4SC
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Entertaining thread, lol..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭
    It's not greed......it's business.
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like the fact that it was a $25 card is a problem here. Should have known that it wasn't 'significant enough" for most here. Would it have made to a difference to all you "high rollers" it were a $1000 card? Some of the people who post here are frankly card snobs. Maybe you should go to the 52 Mantle or 86 Jordan threads instead.
    Believe it or not to some people going to $25 to $50 is a big jump. >>



    I couldn't agree more!
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Not sure that's it. If I dropped $1,000 on a card I had been pining for and was happy with the price, I probably wouldn't even notice that another one got listed for $2,000. >>




    Really? You wouldnt notice if your $1,000 card just DOUBLED in value??


  • << <i>I bought a Jack Lambert 1981 Topps Sticker Psa 9 that I needed to fill out my Master Topps Set. They don't come up often so I pulled the trigger as soon as I saw it. I check multiple times a day to see if something comes up, so I know this was only up for a very, very short time. So today I see they have another one posted. OK, not too unusual. I've seen that happen before. But they DOUBLED the price of what I paid for it less than 24 hours earlier. I'm happy I got it a "half price" I guess............image >>




    I believe it's called supply and demand.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    There's a lot that can be at play here.

    Maybe 4SC's currently listed one is in better condition than the one the OP purchased. It's been my experience that they generally sell the lower-end items before higher ones.

    And/or, perhaps, they've raised the price because they're low on stock. I do this in my shop if I run low on a certain item.

    If it's one of the above reasons then it makes sense for 4SC to raise the price and I don't blame them, whatsoever.

    This is not a case of "greed" at all.

    Congrats on picking up the sticker for your set, and at a great price!
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