yikes - 89D griffey over $900

rcmb3220 · November 10, 2014 8:42AM

Still an hour to go.

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vintagefun · November 10, 2014 8:43AM

Really???

rcmb3220 · November 10, 2014 8:46AM

Now that I remember I think the last one sold for over 1200. It would be very hard to spend that kind of money on this card. I would spend 50 on a rack case hoping to pull one, though.

maddux69 · November 10, 2014 8:47AM

Someone said previously that the subgrades just like these "were a wink" to being sheet cut. I wonder if that is the case here as well.

vintagefun · November 10, 2014 8:52AM

No kidding. I could buy a decent 53 Mantle, 2 PSA 9 Griffeys, a Rack Case or 2, a large pizza and a 6 pack for the rip, and still have money for a Henderson 9 at 1200.

esquiresports · November 10, 2014 8:57AM

I was a sheet collector during the time period and never saw a 1989 Donruss uncut sheet. I actually don't recall ever seeing one. These cards tended to come out rack packs and even factory sets very clean. There's definitely a group of BGS 10 collectors out there, but the multiples over PSA 10 prices seem to be all over the board, even relative to population numbers.

Dpeck100 · November 10, 2014 9:07AM

<< Someone said previously that the subgrades just like these "were a wink" to being sheet cut. I wonder if that is the case here as well. >>

This was the first thought that popped in my head.

thehallmark · November 10, 2014 9:16AM

Pretty nasty corner for a BGS 10.

rcmb3220 · November 10, 2014 9:26AM

<< Someone said previously that the subgrades just like these "were a wink" to being sheet cut. I wonder if that is the case here as well. >>

I'd like to know how experts can tell when a card is sheet cut. Would also like to know what issues had lots of sheets available. An 89 Donruss Griffey isn't worth a penny even if it's the bestest sheet cut ever.

ReggieCleveland · November 10, 2014 9:32AM

The 89 Donruss Griffey is more condition sensitive than his Topps Traded Glossy, Fleer Glossy, Bowman Glossy, and every other 89 Griffey with the exception of the Upper Deck.

But yeah, this seems bananas.

MULLINS5 · November 10, 2014 9:35AM

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<< Someone said previously that the subgrades just like these "were a wink" to being sheet cut. I wonder if that is the case here as well. >>

I'd like to know how experts can tell when a card is sheet cut. Would also like to know what issues had lots of sheets available. An 89 Donruss Griffey isn't worth a penny even if it's the bestest sheet cut ever. >>

Biggest piece of evidence is when a card subgrades lower on "surface" ...for OPC look at edges. Don't think this is a sheet cutsince it's 9.5...usually a sheet cut card is 8.5 ouor lower.

skrezyna23 · November 10, 2014 9:35AM

Most important, I'd like to get explanations from these bidders.

RailsideCards · November 10, 2014 9:39AM

sells for $910

Dpeck100 · November 10, 2014 9:40AM

<< The 89 Donruss Griffey is more condition sensitive than his Topps Traded Glossy, Fleer Glossy, Bowman Glossy, and every other 89 Griffey with the exception of the Upper Deck.

But yeah, this seems bananas. >>

Are you using PSA population reports or total pop reports?

I just ran the numbers and the Fleer Glossy has a lower percentage of 10's then the Donruss.

ReggieCleveland · November 10, 2014 9:44AM

Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84%

ThoseBackPages · November 10, 2014 9:44AM

Funny thing about the Fleer glossy…..

i won this a few years ago for south of $100

the seller had a PSA 10 ending the same day, that was serial numbered before/after (cannot remember which) the one above, that ended north of $1K

Dpeck100 · November 10, 2014 9:45AM

<< Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84% >>

I assumed this was the issue. It is not picking up the + grades and the ones with qualifiers.

When the Cal Ripken was posted a few weeks ago I made the same mistake on the population totals.

ReggieCleveland · November 10, 2014 9:50AM

<< 

<< Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84% >>

I assumed this was the issue. It is not picking up the + grades and the ones with qualifiers.

When the Cal Ripken was posted a few weeks ago I made the same mistake on the population totals. >>

But measuring the 10's there wouldn't be any + or qualifiers. I just ran the numbers off of PSA's pop and it still says the Donruss is more difficult. What am I missing?

Also, it appears that a PSA 10 Fleer Glossy went away in the past week or two. Not sure what would cause that.

Dpeck100 · November 10, 2014 9:50AM

<< Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84% >>

The 1989 Fleer Glossy PSA 10 has expanded a great deal vs the number submitted in just the past two years. I started tracking the number when it was 31 and it is now 46 so longer term it would seem reasonable that this one passes the Donruss.

JWBlue · November 10, 2014 9:51AM

What is the logic in a card receiving an overall 10 when one sub-grade is 9.5?

ReggieCleveland · November 10, 2014 9:54AM

I can understand the desire for a BGS 10. Anyone that's bought PSA 10's from 4SC knows that there are some fugly PSA 10's out there. That BGS is just as close to perfect as you're going to get. Not saying I would drop the coin on it but I can understand the demand for it.

Dpeck100 · November 10, 2014 9:54AM

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<< 

<< Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84% >>

I assumed this was the issue. It is not picking up the + grades and the ones with qualifiers.

When the Cal Ripken was posted a few weeks ago I made the same mistake on the population totals. >>

But measuring the 10's there wouldn't be any + or qualifiers. I just ran the numbers off of PSA's pop and it still says the Donruss is more difficult. What am I missing?

Also, it appears that a PSA 10 Fleer Glossy went away in the past week or two. Not sure what would cause that. >>

If you are measuring a cards difficulty you would naturally include all submitted.

The Fleer Glossy has had 1188 submitted in total and 46 PSA 10's or a ratio of 3.872%

When you run the Donruss numbers it averages 4.389%

ReggieCleveland · November 10, 2014 9:57AM

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<< Yeah, I'm basing that off of PSA's pop report data. My spreadsheet is 1-2 weeks old so perhaps it's changed but I have:

1989 Donruss 1148/25869 = 4.44%

1989 Fleer Glossy 47/972 = 4.84% >>

I assumed this was the issue. It is not picking up the + grades and the ones with qualifiers.

When the Cal Ripken was posted a few weeks ago I made the same mistake on the population totals. >>

But measuring the 10's there wouldn't be any + or qualifiers. I just ran the numbers off of PSA's pop and it still says the Donruss is more difficult. What am I missing?

Also, it appears that a PSA 10 Fleer Glossy went away in the past week or two. Not sure what would cause that. >>

If you are measuring a cards difficulty you would naturally include all submitted.

The Fleer Glossy has had 1188 submitted in total and 46 PSA 10's or a ratio of 3.872% >>

Ahhh now I see. For some reason it didn't dawn on me to add the +'s and Q's for the total submitted since, for the most part, I'm only interested in PSA 10's. Well, at least it will make it more interesting when I update my spreadsheet. I'm curious to see how many cards' data will change.

Gball16 · November 13, 2014 10:00AM

What's the population of Psa 10's and BGS 10's of the Griffey upper deck rookie?

yikes - 89D griffey over $900

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