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Has eboli and air strikes affected your coin buying?
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I rarely turn on a TV, but I did today only to be bombarded with eboli & air strike news. Do these world events have any affect on your coin buying habits?
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- Bob -
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I have a coworker who can't go ten minutes without mentioning Ebola. Yesterday at the local B&M, I found a Liberian coin in his junk box for a buck. Tomorrow, it will be placed on the coworker's desk.
<< <i>Eboli? >>
Looks like it is starting to mutate.
What's next?
Fbola?
Herd immunity: it's a GOOD THING.
Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody.
<< <i>Ebola caused me to buy a coin yesterday that normally wouldn't have been given a second look.
I have a coworker who can't go ten minutes without mentioning Ebola. Yesterday at the local B&M, I found a Liberian coin in his junk box for a buck. Tomorrow, it will be placed on the coworker's desk. >>
HEhehehehe
Steve
PS: Only Obama calls is Eboli (as he did last week in one of his speeches).
Actually these babies I think had the dreaded Ebola and I cured them with a dose of medicinal Acetone!
There was no helping this advanced case of Ebola and old Abe ended up buried in my back yard.....couldn't be helped....
bob
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<< <i>No more than I'm affected by the flu, which kills 600,000 per year worldwide (595,000 more than ebola). >>
Comparing Ebola to the flu is kind of a silly thing to do, given the flu doesn't carry a 70% case fatality rate with it. Ebola could and likely will, at this point, ravage a nice chunk of Africa's population. If it manages to find it's way into the slums of India or something, you're looking at a massive body count. Multiples of what the flu kills in a decade. While you yourself may not be directly threatened by Ebola any time soon, how many of your friends and family work in healthcare? Without proper safeguards, the risks they run in treating Ebola patients are relatively higher since they're dealing with these people at peak infectiousness. You will see further clusters of cases in the states beyond the situation in Dallas right now, until visas from the affected countries are rendered irrelevant and those individuals are barred from entry without extended, mandatory quarantine.
I know they're building out treatment centers and stuff, but the US has what? 17 ETU's under construction in Liberia right now? I know one is 600 beds, the others I believe are 100 beds. They'll be ready in 60-90 days. There are three open right now. That's 300 beds right now, 2,500 total beds in 60-90 days for a disease that currently has 4,249 reported cases there. WHO says that number is likely 2.5x as high as reported, so you're looking at closer to 10,500 cases or so, with over 6,100 dead. If we know that roughly 30% survive, we can estimate that we have 2,500 survivors. That leaves 1,400 active infections. If that's doubling every 21 days or so, as the pattern has been to this point, you're looking at 11,200 active cases in 63 days. While you don't need to get every patient into an ETU to get the R0 (pronounced R-naught, meaning basic reproductive rate, the number of additional people infected by each infected individual) below one to halt the growth of the outbreak, you need to get about 70% of the sick into ETU's to accomplish that. 70% the number of cases we're likely to see in 2-3 months is at least 7000 beds, probably more. Almost triple the capacity that will exist in Liberia alone, at the current rate of construction.
I'm not trying to fearmonger or anything, but the situation in West Africa is deteriorating relatively rapidly. Even in Guinea, the country that has been best off to this point, is beginning to see a spike in cases in their fairly dense capital city. Current capacity is strained and the situation only continues to worsen as international intervention lags behind the growth of the epidemic.
I mean, here's the case numbers for each country charted... you can see the deterioration of reporting standards. It's painfully obvious when looking at Liberia's confirmed cases, or SL's probable cases. What little healthcare systems did exist at the beginning of this outbreak have been beyond strained and without further international intervention, things won't end well.
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I'd like to point out that flu killed 50 million people in 1918
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<< <i>I'd like to point out that flu killed 50 million people in 1918
50m is nothing compared to what Ebola has the potential to do. There's 1.1bn people in Africa alone. >>
The Total Cases exponential growth chart is sobering.
It has not affected my coin buying as of yet.
As far as Ebola and air strikes: The media tends to scare people and make them feel powerless, but then again, the general public takes them at their word and does not research what the media is reporting. Whether it be the Flu or Ebola, we have the power and the responsibility to properly take care of our bodies. This means a good diet (no GMO, processed, or other junk), and plenty of rest. If our body has proper nutrition and is in balance, we will not get sick.
In terms of coin buying, I am buying more than ever before.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Answer---The Ebola disease is capitalized since it's named after a geographic location (the Ebola River in Zaire) where it was first discovered.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
And like war, it never proves who's right. It only shows who's left.
Still, the lack of EXTRA money affects my coin buying more than anything. ( to keep the post and my opinion coin related)
Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody.
<< <i>Talked about it on Meet the Press this morning. 20,000+ cases now, 100,000 by Thanksgiving, 300,000 by Chritsmas. I don't like doing the math. >>
Are there any realistic solutions to preventing this from happening?
Has anyone read The Hot Zone? Might be time to get it on the Kindle.
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<< <i>Are there any realistic solutions to preventing this from happening?
Has anyone read The Hot Zone? Might be time to get it on the Kindle. >>
The Hot Zone is sensationalized BS, to be frank.
Best way to stop the current outbreak would be to pour enough resources into the affected nations to do proper contact tracing and quarantine, but that is not really feasible. The second-best way is probably to establish and maintain a military quarantine around the worst areas and focus resources on the lesser-impacted areas, while at the same time, banning travel for citizens of the afflicted areas. That's far more feasible, yet far less likely to happen due to politics. >>
My understanding is that contact tracing won't work in those countries due to lack of contact records to be traced.
POTUS and the CDC have said they don't consider solutions like banning flights to be viable.
Also contact tracing seems to have issues. Here's the experience Lt. Levine of the US Public Health Service had with contact tracing recently:
<< <i>Lt. Rebecca Levine, a newly minted officer with the U.S. Public Health Service, stepped off a plane in West Africa to fight Ebola, ready to implement the key strategy she'd been taught: contact tracing.
The process that's helped stop diseases like SARS and smallpox seems simple: Find everyone who had close contact with infected individuals and track them for 21 days. If any of these contacts comes down with the disease, isolate them from the community and repeat the process by tracking the contacts' contacts.
But tracing works only if you have a list of the contacts and their addresses. When Levine arrived at a Ministry of Health office in Sierra Leone, she found that the database she needed was "pretty much in shambles."
Many contacts' addresses were missing or were vague like "down by the farm road." In all, only 20% to 30% of the contacts in the database had a usable address.
That meant the local contact tracers weren't able to do their jobs properly.
"They were really unfamiliar with what contact tracing was," she said. "And they didn't have the resources they needed."
According to the United Nations, only 16 of 44 zones in West Africa have sufficient contact tracing.
This inability to do complete contact tracing is a major reason -- perhaps the major reason -- that the Ebola outbreak continues to spiral out of control, according to public health officials and experts. >>
<< <i> nation of Africa >>
Africa is a continent, not a nation. Africa contains 54 sovereign nations. Africa is three times the size of the continental US.
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<< <i>I'd like to point out that flu killed 50 million people in 1918
50m is nothing compared to what Ebola has the potential to do. There's 1.1bn people in Africa alone. >>
Too bad that Ebola can't be Emailed to ISIS!
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<< <i>I'd like to point out that flu killed 50 million people in 1918
50m is nothing compared to what Ebola has the potential to do. There's 1.1bn people in Africa alone. >>
In 1918 no one was flying from africa or anywhere else . If people had been able to move about like they do now that 50 million would have been a much higher number
I don't see any particular reason why Ebola would effect coin buying. But then again it seems to effect the financial markets. Whenever there is uncertainty, some people will hoard currency.
As far as the comparison to influenza. I will say that Ebola is horrifying, and who knows how high the death toll will go. However, a highly aggressive influenza virus, like the Spanish Flu of about 100 years ago, is to me far, far scarier. Nobody really knows why it was such a bad flu that year. Healthy people who should not die from flu were dying from flu. Flu is much easier to transmit than Ebola.
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<< <i> nation of Africa >>
Africa is a continent, not a nation. Africa contains 54 sovereign nations. Africa is three times the size of the continental US. >>
Yes, I stand corrected and I thank you for that. It is a NATION of people on the same continent, despite it's many "governments'' within.
My point was more about a plight we cannot ignore and our (human beings) fight is the same. For a better quality of life and to eradicate disease, one would hope.
Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody.
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<< <i>Well, I did pass on the Isis brand gin at the store yesterday - what an unfortunate name!
Their logo is white on black as well
<< <i>a highly aggressive influenza virus, like the Spanish Flu of about 100 years ago, is to me far, far scarier. Nobody really knows why it was such a bad flu that year. >>
Actually I believe the reason is known (or strongly suspected) now. It may not be widely known; for example it is missing from the wikipedia entry.
The Spanish Flu of 1918 had an unusually high fatality rate because many of its victims already had damaged lungs due to tuberculosis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2740912/
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/cmmm/2012/124861/
And since the incidence of tuberculosis is much lower now, we shouldn't expect to see another seasonal flu epidemic with such a high mortality rate.
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It is a huge hospital turning into a deserted island. No one wants to go there, no one wants to stay there, significant number of staff are quarantined, agency nurses won't go there.
To top it all off, my son is a medic with the 1st Cav Division, but he is deployed to the Baltics playing eyeball to eyeball with the Russians
Ask me how world events are affecting our home.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I have a wife and a daughter who are nurses in Dallas, but not at the affected hospital.
It is a huge hospital turning into a deserted island. No one wants to go there, no one wants to stay there, significant number of staff are quarantined, agency nurses won't go there.
To top it all off, my son is a medic with the 1st Cav Division, but he is deployed to the Baltics playing eyeball to eyeball with the Russians
Ask me how world events are affecting our home.
Perhaps people are waiting out the incubation period, up to 31 days for the Congo outbreak.
<< <i>The Ebola song you can listen to while browsing eBay. >>
Or like the Budweiser song, When you say Ebola, you've spread it all.
<< <i>Don't forget to vote for change next month.
Inappropriate post...yet somehow made less inappropriate by skillful use of the
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