GRADES are IN -- Appraised a buddy's Dad's Mantle collection last night - Pics included
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My buddy said his Dad had a large baseball card collection that he was hoping to sell for some extra cash for retirement. I went over to his house last night hoping for the best but expecting the worst. He sent over around 100 cards mostly of Ken Boyer that were in PSA3-5 range usually do to centering and corners but the killer part was at least a third of them had wax on the front of the cards. Really sad. I held off on the Mantles to leave on a high note. And I sure did. I am planning on sending in a handful of these to PSA next week along with the autographed 1953 Topps. He got the card signed in person along with Johnny Unitas on the same day back in 1982 so I am 100% sure this will authenticate when I send it in.
Here are the pics.
The 1957 is severely trimmed. The owner bought this knowing that. It is really sad, that card would be so sweet.
Anyhow, the owner wants to sell and I want to get him the best bang for his buck trying to avoid Ebay fees. I am thinking of taking advantage of the monthly special below for most of these.
Collectors Club Special #3:
$8 per card/30 business day turnaround
No minimum
All years, valued under $250 each
Sport and non-sport cards
I think the 1969 White Letter and 1965 have shots at being $1000+ cards so I have to do the $35 service on them and the auto for Mantle is $100 to authenticate - that sucks.
So, once these are grade I am going to offer here first to save the guy some ebay and paypal fees. I will post more detailed scanner pics later once I make a second trip out there. Pretty cool find.
Here are the pics.
The 1957 is severely trimmed. The owner bought this knowing that. It is really sad, that card would be so sweet.
Anyhow, the owner wants to sell and I want to get him the best bang for his buck trying to avoid Ebay fees. I am thinking of taking advantage of the monthly special below for most of these.
Collectors Club Special #3:
$8 per card/30 business day turnaround
No minimum
All years, valued under $250 each
Sport and non-sport cards
I think the 1969 White Letter and 1965 have shots at being $1000+ cards so I have to do the $35 service on them and the auto for Mantle is $100 to authenticate - that sucks.
So, once these are grade I am going to offer here first to save the guy some ebay and paypal fees. I will post more detailed scanner pics later once I make a second trip out there. Pretty cool find.
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<< <i>I think the 1968 and 1965 have shots at being $1000+ cards.... >>
not to put a clamp on your excitement, but you shouldn't spend $35 to get those 2 cards graded.
the '68 is O/C top to bottom, almost no bottom border will set you back.
the '65 has what appears to be a slice of print on the left border, and it may be miscut.
overall, you have a nice lot of cards there, as any Mantle collection would be viewed. but, you may want to reconsider the method by which you value them and subsequently have them graded.
I see the best card in the lot being the 1969 White Letter mantle.
Double check the 1963 Topps mantle as well, the top corners are very rounded yet the Green bottom looks more Ex/mt.
Agree with the 1965/68s the 68 is very OC top to bottom but looks sharp. The 1965 looks like a 6-7 grade hard to tell by the pic, but centering and top right edge keep it out of anything higher.
Just send them all in the same 8.00 group and save the money.
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<< <i>I think the 1968 and 1965 have shots at being $1000+ cards.... >>
not to put a clamp on your excitement, but you shouldn't spend $35 to get those 2 cards graded.
the '68 is O/C top to bottom, almost no bottom border will set you back.
the '65 has what appears to be a slice of print on the left border, and it may be miscut.
overall, you have a nice lot of cards there, as any Mantle collection would be viewed. but, you may want to reconsider the method by which you value them and subsequently have them graded. >>
+1 ... being a MICK fan it's GREAT to see a little "find" like this. But like has been said, there is NO WAY the '65 or the '68 grade high. I think the most valuable ones you have are the autographed '53 and the '56. The '56 will get you about $600.00 - $700.00 if it can grade a "5". (The corners look too touched up for anything higher.) I hope that '53 comes out of that holder clean. Be careful when you take it out if it has been sitting in there for 30+ years. Hopefully the auto does not get effected, because it's a beauty. If that comes back on a PSA/DNA slab, I'd say you have a good chance at getting some MICK fans bidding it up over a Grand.
GOOD LUCK and thanks for sharing.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
The 1969 is within PSA 8 centering and for sure PSA 7. I am guessing a 7 on that one. The corners are great on this card. The last 7 PWCC auction is nicer looking and went for over a grand but I am guessing I won't get that kind of money. Even if it gets a six you are looking at $700. This one sold for $787 and is diamond cut and has a ding. This card is much better
old 69 auction
The 1965 is one that I am concerned like all of you are about with that left border. I looked through dozens of auctions and could not find another with that marking. There were many with larger left borders that did not have it either. The card measures right. We will see what it gets.
And thanks Doug for the quad post!
T222's PSA 1 or better
FYI - wax stains in the front are no big deal. Just take some panty hose and rub the surface and it will come right off.
Shane
<< <i>So, once these are grade I am going to offer here first to save the guy some ebay and paypal fees. I will post more detailed scanner pics later once I make a second trip out there. Pretty cool find. >>
I'll be interested in the 64, graded or raw.
<< <i>This sure has driven my PM's to go crazy. Someone mentioned that SGC is cheaper than PSA for authenticating the auto. Which I did confirm. What are the opinions on the $50 price difference? Will a PSA DNA flip sell for more than an SGC or is there no difference? >>
Not sure specifically on Mantle, but in general JSA (SGCs authenticator) and PSA/DNA sell for roughly the same.
Pretty sure my first real Mantle was the 67 Topps card, because a friend's brother had one when they moved into the neighborhood in 1978 and for some reason it just caught my eye.
I debated sending a 1949 Bowman Snider card TTM for the longest time for fear it would be lost. Duke seemed to be a great signer, but I just couldn't stomach the risk. Had I been given the chance to see Snider IP, I would not have hesitated to get it signed. I waited too long unfortunately…
<< <i>Forgot to note, the 1953 Mantle has tape on the left side. When he got it signed Mickey asked him if "He knew what he was doing" because back then signing the card was taboo. >>
In all sincerity, I hope this dear gentleman decides to keep the 1956 or 1961 as a keepsake for himself or a family member.
Anyway, wishing ya'll the best. Deep kudos to you as a friend indeed who's helping a friend in need. I really respect you for helping the man. ---Indiana Jones (Brian Powell)
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<< <i>This sure has driven my PM's to go crazy. Someone mentioned that SGC is cheaper than PSA for authenticating the auto. Which I did confirm. What are the opinions on the $50 price difference? Will a PSA DNA flip sell for more than an SGC or is there no difference? >>
Not sure specifically on Mantle, but in general JSA (SGCs authenticator) and PSA/DNA sell for roughly the same. >>
Spence is no longer aligned with SGC. He's with Beckett. SGC still authenticated autos, you just won't have JSA attached to it. I think in the long run SGC's authentication service will be on the par of JSA and PSA/DNA, but I just recently saw 2 1958 Topps AS signed Mantles end about a week apart (one SGC and one PSA/DNA) and the SGC authenticated only ended at about 60% of the blue flip and the PSA example had a much weaker signature. I know that's only one example out of thousands, but I'm working on a signed 58' set and I'm goin to be watching SGC auctions closely to see if I can pick up some examples cheaper.
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<< <i>This sure has driven my PM's to go crazy. Someone mentioned that SGC is cheaper than PSA for authenticating the auto. Which I did confirm. What are the opinions on the $50 price difference? Will a PSA DNA flip sell for more than an SGC or is there no difference? >>
Not sure specifically on Mantle, but in general JSA (SGCs authenticator) and PSA/DNA sell for roughly the same. >>
Spence is no longer aligned with SGC. He's with Beckett. SGC still authenticated autos, you just won't have JSA attached to it. I think in the long run SGC's authentication service will be on the par of JSA and PSA/DNA, but I just recently saw 2 1958 Topps AS signed Mantles end about a week apart (one SGC and one PSA/DNA) and the SGC authenticated only ended at about 60% of the blue flip and the PSA example had a much weaker signature. I know that's only one example out of thousands, but I'm working on a signed 58' set and I'm goin to be watching SGC auctions closely to see if I can pick up some examples cheaper. >>
Thanks for clarifying. I just saw a couple recent SGC autos in the Fleer Superstar Specials thread and noticed they didn't specify JSA any longer. Do you know when the change happened? I just assumed Spence was doing it for both, as I've gotten some recent Becketts with JSA authentication.
The 56's has a heavy crease that is really tough to see in the scans but still presents well.
The cards are back to the original owner. I am sure he is going to sell so if you are interested in anything please send me some offers and I will present them to him.
I will also scan the cards instead of a phone photo when he for sure wants to sell.
still hoping you didn't pay $35 for the grades, though. Happy Holidays.
<< <i>well Troy, you certainly didn't ask for any opinions about the cards. got the '65 wrong. glad they slabbed 'em up for ya. good for the owner, too.
still hoping you didn't pay $35 for the grades, though. Happy Holidays.
I paid $8 each on the $250 and under special. No up chargers either which was a nice surprise on the '65.
Nice surprise on the '68 getting 8 OC. I was thinking 7 O/C at best. The '62 is a crisp looking 5 with one crappy corner.
I was not singling you out at all on the grades or what you wrote. More the tools that PM'd stating I have no clue how to grade and don't know a thing about collecting. What was funny is a handful of them it was their first PM to me ever and then stated that when the grades come out please contact them for a sale. I won't screw over my friend but I will tell you those would be the last people I contact for any sale.
<< <i> More the tools that PM'd stating I have no clue how to grade and don't know a thing about collecting. What was funny is a handful of them it was their first PM to me ever and then stated that when the grades come out please contact them for a sale. >>
Troy,
Knowing you personally and going over my cards together, I know you can grade accurately . Regarding collecting, you're as passionate and knowledgeable as they come. I'd be interested in knowing who these db's are because I hate them already.
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<< <i>well Troy, you certainly didn't ask for any opinions about the cards. got the '65 wrong. glad they slabbed 'em up for ya. good for the owner, too.
still hoping you didn't pay $35 for the grades, though. Happy Holidays.
I paid $8 each on the $250 and under special. No up chargers either which was a nice surprise on the '65.
Nice surprise on the '68 getting 8 OC. I was thinking 7 O/C at best. The '62 is a crisp looking 5 with one crappy corner.
I was not singling you out at all on the grades or what you wrote. More the tools that PM'd stating I have no clue how to grade and don't know a thing about collecting. What was funny is a handful of them it was their first PM to me ever and then stated that when the grades come out please contact them for a sale. I won't screw over my friend but I will tell you those would be the last people I contact for any sale. >>
Nice job on the grades and helping out your friend's dad. Per your post, sounds like the trolls have taken to PMs now. Here's hoping Santa brings them a real identity for Christmas.
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