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Recently picked this up. Now I just need to get some raw gold to display with it. Has the original counter weight which is apparently a rare item.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is awesome! I remember reading a very good article about such scales in CoinAge magazine as a kid, probably 35 years ago, I've always thought they were neat.

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice. Most of these seem to be lacking the counterweight (tied to the end of yours)
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Allender?

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The slots were so you could tell if the coin was the right size as filling rims was common when they circulated.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks real nice, i like.
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool!!
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    That's really neat. Do you know when it was manufactured?
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat. I want one!

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This scale was made after 1854. There is another version that was made without the $3 gold pan. So, that
    would be prior to 1854 (introduction of the $3 piece).

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a Very image Numismatic / Antique crossover appeal item! image

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i like it a lot.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though.

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  • gummibeargummibear Posts: 786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>



    Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it.
    Thanks,
    Richard
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are more versions of counterfeit gold (or silver) detectors, manufactured by other companies, such as Thompson, Berrian, etc.
    I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.

    If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors."
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Allender scales with the original box is very rare and bring high prices. Check eBay because these scales and many others from other manufacturers appear from time to time.

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  • gummibeargummibear Posts: 786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There are more versions of counterfeit gold (or silver) detectors, manufactured by other companies, such as Thompson, Berrian, etc.
    I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.

    If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors." >>



    Thanks for the lead on the book. Sounds neat but dangerous for me to know more about how many others are out there.image
  • crispycrispy Posts: 792 ✭✭✭
    Fabulous item. I keep my eyes open for these wherever I go.
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  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat item and a great collecting area within numismatics. Congrats on the PU!
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great Piece!

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  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If this is a stupid question I apologize, but could someone explain the use of the counterweight?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,890 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If this is a stupid question I apologize, but could someone explain the use of the counterweight? >>



    The counterweight is placed in the gold dollar recess when weighing the $10 and $20 gold coins.

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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    That is the coolest Type Set display I have ever seen......... image

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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    VERY image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool...now I want one.... will start my quest....Cheers, RickO
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Neat. I want one! >>



    Me too. Neat item.
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>



    Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it.
    Thanks,
    Richard >>



    However neat you might think to get some gold and play with it, I just don't think it would be wise to untie that string and ruin the old originality of it all.


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