That is awesome! I remember reading a very good article about such scales in CoinAge magazine as a kid, probably 35 years ago, I've always thought they were neat.
This scale was made after 1854. There is another version that was made without the $3 gold pan. So, that would be prior to 1854 (introduction of the $3 piece).
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These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though.
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<< <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>
Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it. Thanks, Richard
There are more versions of counterfeit gold (or silver) detectors, manufactured by other companies, such as Thompson, Berrian, etc. I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.
If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors."
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The Allender scales with the original box is very rare and bring high prices. Check eBay because these scales and many others from other manufacturers appear from time to time.
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<< <i>There are more versions of counterfeit gold (or silver) detectors, manufactured by other companies, such as Thompson, Berrian, etc. I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.
If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors." >>
Thanks for the lead on the book. Sounds neat but dangerous for me to know more about how many others are out there.
<< <i>If this is a stupid question I apologize, but could someone explain the use of the counterweight? >>
The counterweight is placed in the gold dollar recess when weighing the $10 and $20 gold coins.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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<< <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>
Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it. Thanks, Richard >>
However neat you might think to get some gold and play with it, I just don't think it would be wise to untie that string and ruin the old originality of it all.
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would be prior to 1854 (introduction of the $3 piece).
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<< <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>
Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it.
Thanks,
Richard
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I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.
If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors."
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>There are more versions of counterfeit gold (or silver) detectors, manufactured by other companies, such as Thompson, Berrian, etc.
I bought a selection (most of what might be called a type set) of mechanical counterfeit detectors from John Kraljevich 2 or 3 years ago.
If you are interested in these, try to locate a copy of a spiral-bound book by Eric Newman & A. G. Mallis, "U. S. Coin Scales and Counterfeit Coin Detectors." >>
Thanks for the lead on the book. Sounds neat but dangerous for me to know more about how many others are out there.
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<< <i>If this is a stupid question I apologize, but could someone explain the use of the counterweight? >>
The counterweight is placed in the gold dollar recess when weighing the $10 and $20 gold coins.
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<< <i>Neat. I want one! >>
Me too. Neat item.
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<< <i>These counterfeit detectors were made by Allender. There were two designs. The ones made before 1854 did not have a space for the $3 and the large gold $1. The later ones have a space for all gold coin denominations including the $3 and both small and large sizes of gold $1's. In addition to testing the weight, you can also check the diameter and thickness of your gold coin. They don't work too well with slabbed gold coins though. >>
Yes this is stamped John Allender Patent Nov.27 1855. The string looks like it has been on there a long time and hasn't been moved in a hundred or more years. The brass has stained where it is in contact with it and only in one spot on it.
Thanks,
Richard >>
However neat you might think to get some gold and play with it, I just don't think it would be wise to untie that string and ruin the old originality of it all.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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