1972 Steeler Team sheet hand cut singles a part of Master sets ???
steel75
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These "hand cut" singles came out several months back from our friends at 4sharpcorners and because some sold at the crazy prices they were asking they have been included in the master sets of Ham, Blount, etc. A COMPLETE joke. These a basically photos. No numbering, no stats, etc. Where were these issued back in 1972??? I heard the sheets were handed out at the stadium. At least the 1972 Sunoco stamps were distributed to the general public. Really makes pursuing Master sets a waste of time if things like this get included. My rant is over.
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From PSA's website;
Master Player Sets:
"All cards, with the exception of unique or very limited edition cards (1-3 print runs), are accepted in the Master player sets. Player sets have evolved since they were first introduced in the PSA Set Registry. Therefore, there may be some inconsistencies. Please email setregistry@collectors.com with any changes you feel should be made."
Looks like it qualifies to me. Nice photo of player in question with his name, number and position.
It does get to the point that a master set will never be completed though. For example why is a complete Bazooka box (most years have this format) any different from the three card panel?
I also agree that the whole Bazooka boxes are completely stupid overkill. If the point is the cards, then the complete panel should be sufficient. You don't gain any more cards by having the entire box.
Nothing like taking a Stadium giveaway, cutting it up and calling them "cards"........c'mon man
<< <i>Well, that's why they are called "Master" sets.
From PSA's website;
Master Player Sets:
"All cards, with the exception of unique or very limited edition cards (1-3 print runs), are accepted in the Master player sets. Player sets have evolved since they were first introduced in the PSA Set Registry. Therefore, there may be some inconsistencies. Please email setregistry@collectors.com with any changes you feel should be made."
Looks like it qualifies to me. Nice photo of player in question with his name, number and position.
It does get to the point that a master set will never be completed though. For example why is a complete Bazooka box (most years have this format) any different from the three card panel?
---------But they were never cards and were never intended to be cut up and submitted as such.
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<< <i>Well, that's why they are called "Master" sets.
From PSA's website;
Master Player Sets:
"All cards, with the exception of unique or very limited edition cards (1-3 print runs), are accepted in the Master player sets. Player sets have evolved since they were first introduced in the PSA Set Registry. Therefore, there may be some inconsistencies. Please email setregistry@collectors.com with any changes you feel should be made."
Looks like it qualifies to me. Nice photo of player in question with his name, number and position.
It does get to the point that a master set will never be completed though. For example why is a complete Bazooka box (most years have this format) any different from the three card panel?
---------But they were never cards and were never intended to be cut up and submitted as such. >>
Well of course they weren't intended to be submitted. In 1972 nobody had dreamt up a TPG. As far as them not being cards, neither were the MLBPA pins in the 1960s, but they're part of players' master sets. Ditto Liberty matchbooks. I've heard the Killebrew master includes a keychain. I'm trying to get a Sprite bottle cap added to the Cappelletti master composite.
<< <i>my bad, I thought this site was for sports cards >>
If you mean this forum, it is entitled "sports cards AND MEMORABILIA." And if you mean the PSA registry master sets, they refer to "items" more often than "cards."
Edited to add: for people who don't want to chase all these odd items, they offer a basic set.
Several years ago I put together a Mike Bossy Master Set. At the beginning, there were about 15 cards. I began a journey of trying to find, and acquire, every single card issued during his playing years. I ended up having almost 100 extra cards added to that set.
There were a lot of factors that contributed to my eventually throwing in the towel on the set, but the big one for me was when I contacted PSA via email and asked if specific cards could be added. After I got the green light from PSA, I purchased MANY raw examples and sent them in for grading. Afterward, they said they couldn't add the cards because nowhere on the back does it say "Mike Bossy" or "Bossy" or "Mike" or "Mike's" or Bossy's" etc, etc, etc.
So, I must ask: does this sheet cut card have Jack Ham's name anywhere on the back? What set are we speaking of here?
It just seems like they cut it up and POOF ....now these are cards? None of them have a Steeler logo anywhere. None are in helmets. The "sheet" itself in one corner has the Steelers logo.
It was a giveaway or trinket you pick up at the gift shop or something.
<< <i>Nothing on the back. Plain white. It was a 1972 CHEAP photo stock sheet that was at the stadium(from what I understand) with some players and some coaches on it.
It just seems like cut it up and POOF ....now these are cards? >>
Then PSA has either changed their policy on what's allowed for the Master Player Sets or it is an error and you should bring it to their attention.
Last night I said PSA didn't allow Bossy cards that didn't have his name mentioned on the back.
The correction should be that the cards I got the green light on did not have Bossy's name anywhere on the card, and this was why they later denied them to the player set.
Because the player's names are on the front of these sheet "cards" may be enough for them to go into the set.
The only real room for an issue I see here is the hand cut nature of them and even that is sort of questionable, given what we've seen with other similar items. Something possibly looking/being cheesy isn't a DQ from consideration for Master Sets. If it were, they'd all be rather smaller.
<< <i>Nothing on the back. Plain white. It was a 1972 CHEAP photo stock sheet that was at the stadium(from what I understand) with some players and some coaches on it.
It just seems like they cut it up and POOF ....now these are cards? None of them have a Steeler logo anywhere. None are in helmets. The "sheet" itself in one corner has the Steelers logo.
It was a giveaway or trinket you pick up at the gift shop or something. >>
As someone else said, there are MANY items in the master sets that are not "cards". Many do not have logos and many were "cheap" items when issued.
The example you have shown is a quite nice addition to the Jack Ham Master Set. You really don't have a complaint here. Just because it went for "crazy" money isn't a problem either, all it means is at least two bidders wanted this item bad enough to bid what you consider "crazily".
If you are not having fun with the Master set idea, choose another way to collect. Many of us like the idea of a master set with lots of "oddball" items.