Big 10 not so weak after all
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IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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<< <i>Who were the games against? >>
3 ACC, and 1 SEC.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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<< <i>Who were the games against? >>
3 ACC, and 1 SEC. >>
No offense but wins vs:
Pitt
Syracuse
are not that impressive
Miami is down but at least a name win
The only decent win was against Mizzou. Thats a good win no question
Almost balances out the Michigan getting thumped by Utah.
Yeah, id still call them weak
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<< <i>Who were the games against? >>
3 ACC, and 1 SEC. >>
No offense but wins vs:
Pitt
Syracuse
are not that impressive
Miami is down but at least a name win
The only decent win was against Mizzou. Thats a good win no question
Almost balances out the Michigan getting thumped by Utah.
Yeah, id still call them weak
Disagree. Pitt was 3-0 with a win over Boston college. Syracuse was 2-0. Miami was ranked in top 10 in defense.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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<< <i>Who were the games against? >>
3 ACC, and 1 SEC. >>
No offense but wins vs:
Pitt
Syracuse
are not that impressive
Miami is down but at least a name win
The only decent win was against Mizzou. Thats a good win no question
Almost balances out the Michigan getting thumped by Utah.
Yeah, id still call them weak
Disagree. Pitt was 3-0 with a win over Boston college. Syracuse was 2-0. Miami was ranked in top 10 in defense. >>
Pitt beat Delaware, FIU and BC. not what I would call a sterling schedule so far
BC beat Maine, SC (not as good as ratings suggest) and Pitt. Again, a good road win at SC and well, call me skeptical on how good Pitt is
Miami: Lost to Louisville, beat Florida A&M (whose band is better than their football team) gave up 20 to Arkansas State. Arkansas State?Really? And they have a top 10 defense? And then gave up 41 to a so-so Nebraska team.
So, um, yeah, they are still weak.
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<< <i>Who were the games against? >>
3 ACC, and 1 SEC. >>
No offense but wins vs:
Pitt
Syracuse
are not that impressive
Miami is down but at least a name win
The only decent win was against Mizzou. Thats a good win no question
Almost balances out the Michigan getting thumped by Utah.
Yeah, id still call them weak
Disagree. Pitt was 3-0 with a win over Boston college. Syracuse was 2-0. Miami was ranked in top 10 in defense. >>
Pitt beat Delaware, FIU and BC. not what I would call a sterling schedule so far
BC beat Maine, SC (not as good as ratings suggest) and Pitt. Again, a good road win at SC and well, call me skeptical on how good Pitt is
Miami: Lost to Louisville, beat Florida A&M (whose band is better than their football team) gave up 20 to Arkansas State. Arkansas State?Really? And they have a top 10 defense? And then gave up 41 to a so-so Nebraska team.
So, um, yeah, they are still weak. >>
Nope not weak. Who has Alabama beat? Who has Oklahoma beat?
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
The Big "10" is not impressive at all this year. Have they had any good wins?
They are still a big 5 conference though. The Mountain West hasn't overtaken them... yet.
I think the Big "10" are #5 at this point though.
Most years the Big 10 will be the #2 or 3 conference with a couple in the top 10, and maybe another 3-4 ranked teams.
With Ohio State having an off year (this time last year they were ranked 4th) and Penn State being off the rankings for a couple years with the NCAA violations fallout (they were a top 20 staple prior to 2012).
Michigan, Michigan State and Nebraska were all regularly ranked 10-20th on the polls prior to the past couple seasons. It's been a slow couple years for the Big 10.
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<< <i>Big 10 always has it's ups and downs and right now they're "down"
Most years the Big 10 will be the #2 or 3 conference with a couple in the top 10, and maybe another 3-4 ranked teams.
With Ohio State having an off year (this time last year they were ranked 4th) and Penn State being off the rankings for a couple years with the NCAA violations fallout (they were a top 20 staple prior to 2012).
Michigan, Michigan State and Nebraska were all regularly ranked 10-20th on the polls prior to the past couple seasons. It's been a slow couple years for the Big 10. >>
I can live with this.
The Big Ten just doesn't pass the smell and eye test.
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<< <i>Big 10 always has it's ups and downs and right now they're "down"
Most years the Big 10 will be the #2 or 3 conference with a couple in the top 10, and maybe another 3-4 ranked teams.
With Ohio State having an off year (this time last year they were ranked 4th) and Penn State being off the rankings for a couple years with the NCAA violations fallout (they were a top 20 staple prior to 2012).
Michigan, Michigan State and Nebraska were all regularly ranked 10-20th on the polls prior to the past couple seasons. It's been a slow couple years for the Big 10. >>
I can live with this.
The Big Ten just doesn't pass the smell and eye test.
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I agree. The only good teams in the conference are Nebraska, Wisconsin and Michigan state. Ohio state is alright. And you could say penn state is a decent team this year, ranked 26 right now. Overall though, the conference Is weak this season because the middle and bottom teams are so bad.
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<< <i>Nebraska had that big come from behind win against 1aa McNeese State a few weeks ago. That's a good resume builder there! Lol!
The Big "10" is not impressive at all this year. Have they had any good wins?
They are still a big 5 conference though. The Mountain West hasn't overtaken them... yet.
I think the Big "10" are #5 at this point though. >>
The Big 10 champ beat the pac 12 champ in the Rose Bowl(on the road).
Other than Oregon, no Pac 12 team has been very impressive.
Nebraska is 4-0 with a Heisman candidate, so really no reason to knock them after they spanked Miami. Indiana beat the Sec east champion. That's not a good win?
Oregon just barely beat 1-3 Washington State lol
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<< <i>Nebraska had that big come from behind win against 1aa McNeese State a few weeks ago. That's a good resume builder there! Lol!
The Big "10" is not impressive at all this year. Have they had any good wins?
They are still a big 5 conference though. The Mountain West hasn't overtaken them... yet.
I think the Big "10" are #5 at this point though. >>
The Big 10 champ beat the pac 12 champ in the Rose Bowl(on the road).
Other than Oregon, no Pac 12 team has been very impressive.
Nebraska is 4-0 with a Heisman candidate, so really no reason to knock them after they spanked Miami. Indiana beat the Sec east champion. That's not a good win?
Oregon just barely beat 1-3 Washington State lol >>
Again, nobody is knocking Nebraska. Good team.Ohio State is down without Braxton Miller (and dont know they would have been that good with him, the Ohio State hype machine was, as always in full effect) Michigan State is solid. Wisconsin is solid. Outside of that...Well it looks like the bottom of the ACC. Bombed out and depleted.
SEC is amazing, as usual. Just tons of talent and tons of players that will play on Sunday.
PAC 12 is not as deep but very good.
Big XII is deeper than PAC 12 but not as good at the top
ACC is better than Big 10, deeper and better teams are better than the better teams in the Big 10
Big 10 is the weakest of the Power 5 conferences. They might not be much weaker than ACC but ACC gets the nod because there is nobody in the Big 10 that can beat FSU.
Look at what each conference is producing that plays on Sundays. The best you get out of the Big10 is a couple of lineman on both sides of the ball and maybe a quarterback...maybe a linebacker. very very few skill players. Very few players who can fly and run.
Big 10 is down, weak, not as good, pitiful, whatever adjective you want to use.
I know what it feels like to be a fan of the weakest big conference in college. Ive been an ACC fan all my life. Imagine having to watch Duke and Wake Forest battle it out for the toilet bowl.
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<< <i>Nebraska had that big come from behind win against 1aa McNeese State a few weeks ago. That's a good resume builder there! Lol!
The Big "10" is not impressive at all this year. Have they had any good wins?
They are still a big 5 conference though. The Mountain West hasn't overtaken them... yet.
I think the Big "10" are #5 at this point though. >>
The Big 10 champ beat the pac 12 champ in the Rose Bowl(on the road).
Other than Oregon, no Pac 12 team has been very impressive.
Nebraska is 4-0 with a Heisman candidate, so really no reason to knock them after they spanked Miami. Indiana beat the Sec east champion. That's not a good win?
Oregon just barely beat 1-3 Washington State lol >>
Again, nobody is knocking Nebraska. Good team.Ohio State is down without Braxton Miller (and dont know they would have been that good with him, the Ohio State hype machine was, as always in full effect) Michigan State is solid. Wisconsin is solid. Outside of that...Well it looks like the bottom of the ACC. Bombed out and depleted.
SEC is amazing, as usual. Just tons of talent and tons of players that will play on Sunday.
PAC 12 is not as deep but very good.
Big XII is deeper than PAC 12 but not as good at the top
ACC is better than Big 10, deeper and better teams are better than the better teams in the Big 10
Big 10 is the weakest of the Power 5 conferences. They might not be much weaker than ACC but ACC gets the nod because there is nobody in the Big 10 that can beat FSU.
Look at what each conference is producing that plays on Sundays. The best you get out of the Big10 is a couple of lineman on both sides of the ball and maybe a quarterback...maybe a linebacker. very very few skill players. Very few players who can fly and run.
Big 10 is down, weak, not as good, pitiful, whatever adjective you want to use.
I know what it feels like to be a fan of the weakest big conference in college. Ive been an ACC fan all my life. Imagine having to watch Duke and Wake Forest battle it out for the toilet bowl.
Nobody can beat FSU in the Big 10? lol They barely won against Clemson and OSU. They will get beat eventually.
The Big 10 is better than the ACC. ACC only has two teams ranked in the top 25.
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I dont think anyone in the Big10 could beat FSU. Bama? Maybe. Oregon? Maybe. Big 10 team...most likely not.
Maybe they will get beat. But that is a red herring argument. Doesnt change the fact that the Big10 this year is way down.
<< <i>Again, nobody is knocking Nebraska. Good team.Ohio State is down without Braxton Miller (and dont know they would have been that good with him, the Ohio State hype machine was, as always in full effect) Michigan State is solid. Wisconsin is solid. Outside of that...Well it looks like the bottom of the ACC. Bombed out and depleted.
SEC is amazing, as usual. Just tons of talent and tons of players that will play on Sunday.
PAC 12 is not as deep but very good.
Big XII is deeper than PAC 12 but not as good at the top
ACC is better than Big 10, deeper and better teams are better than the better teams in the Big 10
Big 10 is the weakest of the Power 5 conferences. They might not be much weaker than ACC but ACC gets the nod because there is nobody in the Big 10 that can beat FSU.
Look at what each conference is producing that plays on Sundays. The best you get out of the Big10 is a couple of lineman on both sides of the ball and maybe a quarterback...maybe a linebacker. very very few skill players. Very few players who can fly and run.
Big 10 is down, weak, not as good, pitiful, whatever adjective you want to use.
I know what it feels like to be a fan of the weakest big conference in college. Ive been an ACC fan all my life. Imagine having to watch Duke and Wake Forest battle it out for the toilet bowl.
Comparing the strength of an entire conference off of the ranking of one team is pretty weak. Right now the ACC has one ranked team, one. FSU.
Florida is a great team and no Big Ten team can beat Florida right now, but the ACC is a much weaker conference.
Let's look at the Big Ten's strongest 6 teams compared to ACC's
Big Ten:
#9 Michigan State
#19 Wisconsin
#21 Nebraska
#22 Ohio State
Penn State
Iowa
ACC:
#1 Florida State
Boston College
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Duke
Virginia Tech
The unranked ACC teams are all solid, but I do not believe any one of them can beat the six Big Ten teams above. You have Florida, I'll give you that, but the rest of the conference is weak.
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<< <i>Again, nobody is knocking Nebraska. Good team.Ohio State is down without Braxton Miller (and dont know they would have been that good with him, the Ohio State hype machine was, as always in full effect) Michigan State is solid. Wisconsin is solid. Outside of that...Well it looks like the bottom of the ACC. Bombed out and depleted.
SEC is amazing, as usual. Just tons of talent and tons of players that will play on Sunday.
PAC 12 is not as deep but very good.
Big XII is deeper than PAC 12 but not as good at the top
ACC is better than Big 10, deeper and better teams are better than the better teams in the Big 10
Big 10 is the weakest of the Power 5 conferences. They might not be much weaker than ACC but ACC gets the nod because there is nobody in the Big 10 that can beat FSU.
Look at what each conference is producing that plays on Sundays. The best you get out of the Big10 is a couple of lineman on both sides of the ball and maybe a quarterback...maybe a linebacker. very very few skill players. Very few players who can fly and run.
Big 10 is down, weak, not as good, pitiful, whatever adjective you want to use.
I know what it feels like to be a fan of the weakest big conference in college. Ive been an ACC fan all my life. Imagine having to watch Duke and Wake Forest battle it out for the toilet bowl.
Comparing the strength of an entire conference off of the ranking of one team is pretty weak. Right now the ACC has one ranked team, one. FSU.
Florida is a great team and no Big Ten team can beat Florida right now, but the ACC is a much weaker conference.
Let's look at the Big Ten's strongest 6 teams compared to ACC's
Big Ten:
#9 Michigan State
#19 Wisconsin
#21 Nebraska
#22 Ohio State
Penn State
Iowa
ACC:
#1 Florida State
Boston College
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Duke
Virginia Tech
The unranked ACC teams are all solid, but I do not believe any one of them can beat the six Big Ten teams above. You have Florida, I'll give you that, but the rest of the conference is weak. >>
Penn state should be ranked after next weekend to if they beat a weak northwestern team. That would make them 5-0 and 2-0 in conference. They are 26 now in AP poll. The big ten is way better than the ACC. I really don't think the big ten is as bad this year as people think it is even though it is weaker than some conferences. Maryland, ruetgers, Illinois, Minnesota are all solid teams. Not great but solid.
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<< <i>Let's look at the Big Ten's strongest 6 teams compared to ACC's
Big Ten:
#9 Michigan State
#19 Wisconsin
#21 Nebraska
#22 Ohio State
Penn State
Iowa
ACC:
#1 Florida State
Boston College
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Duke
Virginia Tech
The unranked ACC teams are all solid, but I do not believe any one of them can beat the six Big Ten teams above. You have Florida, I'll give you that, but the rest of the conference is weak. >>
Interesting you have V'tech 6th in your rankings but they beat the Big 10 4th best Ohio State, no!? I think these two conferences are very comparable this year.
<< <i>Interesting you have V'tech 6th in your rankings but they beat the Big 10 4th best Ohio State, no!? I think these two conferences are very comparable this year. >>
I didn't even think of that! I think the Virginia Tech game took everyone by surprise.
I agree, they are both very comparable conferences and they both have plenty of strong unranked teams. It'll be interesting to see the rankings next week.
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<< <i>Let's look at the Big Ten's strongest 6 teams compared to ACC's
Big Ten:
#9 Michigan State
#19 Wisconsin
#21 Nebraska
#22 Ohio State
Penn State
Iowa
ACC:
#1 Florida State
Boston College
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Duke
Virginia Tech
The unranked ACC teams are all solid, but I do not believe any one of them can beat the six Big Ten teams above. You have Florida, I'll give you that, but the rest of the conference is weak. >>
Interesting you have V'tech 6th in your rankings but they beat the Big 10 4th best Ohio State, no!? I think these two conferences are very comparable this year. >>
Luck was on VA Techs side considering Ohio State was missing their two best players(Braxton Miller and Noah Spence).
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<< <i> Luck was on VA Techs side considering Ohio State was missing their two best players(Braxton Miller and Noah Spence). >>
A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game.
<< <i>A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game. >>
I agree that they won, but if you're suggesting VT at full strength is better than Ohio State at full strength, I disagree. If Clemson beat FSU last Saturday (while Winston was suspended) does that mean Clemson is better than Florida? Not really. It means Clemson was better than Florida without their best player.
I have ties to Virginia Tech and I'm a fan of their team (and I hate Ohio State) but not even I will say Virginia Tech has a better team. They certainly played better that day, no one will argue that, but they are not the better team.
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<< <i>A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game. >>
I agree that they won, but if you're suggesting VT at full strength is better than Ohio State at full strength, I disagree. If Clemson beat FSU last Saturday (while Winston was suspended) does that mean Clemson is better than Florida? Not really. It means Clemson was better than Florida without their best player.
I have ties to Virginia Tech and I'm a fan of their team (and I hate Ohio State) but not even I will say Virginia Tech has a better team. They certainly played better that day, no one will argue that, but they are not the better team. >>
Blah, blah, blah... VA Tech beat Ohio State PERIOD.
P.S. Big "10" is weak. However, I do think they are still ahead of the Mountain West.
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<< <i>A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game. >>
I agree that they won, but if you're suggesting VT at full strength is better than Ohio State at full strength, I disagree. If Clemson beat FSU last Saturday (while Winston was suspended) does that mean Clemson is better than Florida? Not really. It means Clemson was better than Florida without their best player.
I have ties to Virginia Tech and I'm a fan of their team (and I hate Ohio State) but not even I will say Virginia Tech has a better team. They certainly played better that day, no one will argue that, but they are not the better team. >>
Exactly. The Buckeyes win by 2 td's with Miller. Same with FSU over Clemson with Winston.
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<< <i>A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game. >>
I agree that they won, but if you're suggesting VT at full strength is better than Ohio State at full strength, I disagree. If Clemson beat FSU last Saturday (while Winston was suspended) does that mean Clemson is better than Florida? Not really. It means Clemson was better than Florida without their best player.
I have ties to Virginia Tech and I'm a fan of their team (and I hate Ohio State) but not even I will say Virginia Tech has a better team. They certainly played better that day, no one will argue that, but they are not the better team. >>
Blah, blah, blah... VA Tech beat Ohio State PERIOD.
P.S. Big "10" is weak. However, I do think they are still ahead of the Mountain West. >>
And ahead of the Pac 12 and ACC.
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<< <i>A win is a win. Every week teams have injuries, suspensions, etc... and the ball bounces the way it bounces. Tech won the game. >>
I agree that they won, but if you're suggesting VT at full strength is better than Ohio State at full strength, I disagree. If Clemson beat FSU last Saturday (while Winston was suspended) does that mean Clemson is better than Florida? Not really. It means Clemson was better than Florida without their best player.
I have ties to Virginia Tech and I'm a fan of their team (and I hate Ohio State) but not even I will say Virginia Tech has a better team. They certainly played better that day, no one will argue that, but they are not the better team. >>
Blah, blah, blah... VA Tech beat Ohio State PERIOD.
P.S. Big "10" is weak. However, I do think they are still ahead of the Mountain West. >>
And ahead of the Pac 12 and ACC. >>
As a Michigan Alumni even at my most homer moment I could not say the Big Ten is better then the Pac 12 at the moment or recently. Not even remotely close IMO anyway you want to slice it.
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<< <i>As a Michigan Alumni even at my most homer moment I could not say the Big Ten is better then the Pac 12 at the moment or recently. Not even remotely close IMO anyway you want to slice it. >>
At the moment? No. The Pac12 is clearly ahead of the Big10, but it's always been neck and neck (especially in the past decade).
I feel like the Pac12 always has two "elite" teams. Whether it's USC and Oregon or Stanford and Oregon or whoever. The Pac 12 always seems to have a top 5 team, top 10 team and two or three 10-25 teams. The Big 10 will usually have the same, but this year Ohio State has been sucking wind.
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<< <i>As a Michigan Alumni even at my most homer moment I could not say the Big Ten is better then the Pac 12 at the moment or recently. Not even remotely close IMO anyway you want to slice it. >>
At the moment? No. The Pac12 is clearly ahead of the Big10, but it's always been neck and neck (especially in the past decade).
I feel like the Pac12 always has two "elite" teams. Whether it's USC and Oregon or Stanford and Oregon or whoever. The Pac 12 always seems to have a top 5 team, top 10 team and two or three 10-25 teams. The Big 10 will usually have the same, but this year Ohio State has been sucking wind. >>
I would say the two conferences are neck and neck. Pac 12 has 5 teams ranked and Big ten has 4 and Penn state should be 5-0 after this Saturday.. UCLA plays Arizona state this week so one of those two teams will have a loss. Stanford will probably beat Oregon, so I see no pac 12 team going undefeated.
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<< <i>As a Michigan Alumni even at my most homer moment I could not say the Big Ten is better then the Pac 12 at the moment or recently. Not even remotely close IMO anyway you want to slice it. >>
At the moment? No. The Pac12 is clearly ahead of the Big10, but it's always been neck and neck (especially in the past decade).
I feel like the Pac12 always has two "elite" teams. Whether it's USC and Oregon or Stanford and Oregon or whoever. The Pac 12 always seems to have a top 5 team, top 10 team and two or three 10-25 teams. The Big 10 will usually have the same, but this year Ohio State has been sucking wind. >>
I would say the two conferences are neck and neck. Pac 12 has 5 teams ranked and Big ten has 4 and Penn state should be 5-0 after this Saturday.. UCLA plays Arizona state this week so one of those two teams will have a loss. Stanford will probably beat Oregon, so I see no pac 12 team going undefeated. >>
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<< <i>I see the Badgers as being the hope of the conference, followed by MSU and I am not sure it matters after that. I would like to be wrong. >>
The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol.
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<< <i>I see the Badgers as being the hope of the conference, followed by MSU and I am not sure it matters after that. I would like to be wrong. >>
The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'.
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The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'. >>
Nah, its pretty clear from reading your posts you have an agenda.
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The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'. >>
Nah, its pretty clear from reading your posts you have an agenda. >>
What agenda is that? To make the Big10 look bad? Cause that ain't an agenda...that's just facts
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The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'. >>
Nah, its pretty clear from reading your posts you have an agenda. >>
What agenda is that? To make the Big10 look bad? Cause that ain't an agenda...that's just facts >>
If its a fact that the big 10 is bad, then that must mean its a fact the ACC is awful
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'. >>
Nah, its pretty clear from reading your posts you have an agenda. >>
What agenda is that? To make the Big10 look bad? Cause that ain't an agenda...that's just facts >>
If its a fact that the big 10 is bad, then that must mean its a fact the ACC is awful
I hate saying it but The Big Ten is in a miserable state of decay and my team is a main contributor.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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The Big 10 is clearly better than the ACC, unless people consider Duke a great team lol. >>
Keep telling yourself that and at least you'll be sure of it. They are neck in neck from this outsider's perspective. I have no horse in that race. Jus' sayin'. >>
Nah, its pretty clear from reading your posts you have an agenda. >>
What agenda is that? To make the Big10 look bad? Cause that ain't an agenda...that's just facts >>
If its a fact that the big 10 is bad, then that must mean its a fact the ACC is awful
Lol! Touché!
The ACC ain't great but at least ACC fans recognize that lol
So now, when I watch the games or check the scores, I'm hoping that the B10 teams win, but really only for MSU's benefit in reference to strength of schedule. Otherwise, screw 'em (sorry Brick, LOL).
But, I can comfortably say I am very pleased with kicking U of M's rear lately, them being down or not. And I will also throw out there that if the four team playoffs had started last year, we might be talking about a B10 team playing for and possibly being the national champ.
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Good point.
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The ACC ain't great but at least ACC fans recognize that lol >>
Ha. Exactly!
LINK!
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
<< <i>I just read this article. A lot of great information!
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That is extremely interesting. So looks like ACC and Big 10 are neck in neck as I thought. I wonder how close the Mountain West is to catching them. Probably still a couple years before they over take the Big 10.
<< <i>I wonder how close the Mountain West is to catching them. Probably still a couple years before they over take the Big 10. >>
Okay, now this is funny.
I guess the Mountain West will overtake the ACC next year then?
On a side note, it looks like they used Rutgers and Maryland in calculating Big 10 numbers even though they weren't in the Big 10 until this year (the study is for 2009-2013). That brings the Big 10 up a bit.
Some further analysis:
The top five teams in terms of recruiting strength over the past 5 years:
Big 10:
Ohio State: 3.61
Michigan: 3.44
Nebraska: 3.31
Michigan State: 3.11
Penn State: 3.08
Penn State should probably be a bit higher, but there recruiting rating clearly suffered in 2012 after the whole Sandusky thing.
ACC:
Florida State: 3.61
Clemson: 3.39
Miami: 3.31
North Carolina: 3.18
Virginia Tech: 3.17
Practically identical.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
2014 ILLINOIS FIGHTING ILLINI SCHEDULE
Sat, Aug 30
vs
Youngstown St
W28-17
Sat, Sept 6
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W Kentucky
W42-34
Sat, Sept 13
Washington
L44-19
Sat, Sept 20
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Texas State
W42-35
They have played one decent team and got blasted. Beyond that they have played NAIA schools or something and picked up 3 worthless wins. Classic. Big 10 just piling up the non-conference wins!
<< <i>I was checking out some of the Big 10 games this weekend. I was going to say Nebraska is not that good so could see Illinois beating them. However, then I looked at Illinois' schedule. What a joke so never mind that upset call. Nebraska will lose next week to Michigan State though. Here's Illinois' schedule so far. LOL:
2014 ILLINOIS FIGHTING ILLINI SCHEDULE
Sat, Aug 30
vs
Youngstown St
W28-17
Sat, Sept 6
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W Kentucky
W42-34
Sat, Sept 13
Washington
L44-19
Sat, Sept 20
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Texas State
W42-35
They have played one decent team and got blasted. Beyond that they have played NAIA schools or something and picked up 3 worthless wins. Classic. Big 10 just piling up the non-conference wins! >>
You seem to know very little about college football. EVERY school schedules cupcakes every single year.
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You seem to know very little about college football. EVERY school schedules cupcakes every single year. >>
Unture. 1 cupcake sure but not multiple ones. Not EVERY school. I am a UCLA fan. The non-conference schedule this year was Virginia, Memphis and Texas. Memphis was the only "cupcake." Turned out none of the three were great but both UVA and UT should be competitive. Not the case with many Big 10 and SEC teams. The SEC is the worst about scheduling FCS schools and low level FBS schools. Of course Big 10 Michigan knows about the downside of scheduling an FCS team and Nebraska almost did it again this year. As a UCLA fan I do not believe we have ever played an FCS/iaa team. Keep defending your conference but eventually you'll realize you are battling with the ACC for 4th place in the conference rankings. That's just reality.
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Unture. 1 cupcake sure but not multiple ones. Not EVERY school. I am a UCLA fan. The non-conference schedule this year was Virginia, Memphis and Texas. Memphis was the only "cupcake." Turned out none of the three were great but both UVA and UT should be competitive. Not the case with many Big 10 and SEC teams. The SEC is the worst about scheduling FCS schools and low level FBS schools. Of course Big 10 Michigan knows about the downside of scheduling an FCS team and Nebraska almost did it again this year. As a UCLA fan I do not believe we have ever played an FCS/iaa team. Keep defending your conference but eventually you'll realize you are battling with the ACC for 4th place in the conference rankings. That's just reality. >>
Yes because Virginia is such a world beater in football. They were 2-10 last year lol. The reality is, after the sec, theres not much difference is strength. If you think the pac 12 is far above the Big 10, you are living in a fantasy world.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED