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If You Could Have Any One Card - But Could Never Sell It

What would it be? I am talking about for a collection, under the condition it could never, ever be sold. Just to look at and enjoy for any reason that matters to you, be it aesthetic, favorite player, historical significance to the game or the hobby, etc.

For me it would be a centered Ruth Rookie followed very closely by a centered 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. The Ruth's relative rarity, age, it being the undisputed rookie of the game's most legendary player ever, it being an image of him pitching in a Red Sox uniform, all these factors make me choose the Ruth. But the 1952 Mick would be very close behind.

My third choice, absurd as it may sound at first blush, would be a 1984 Topps Don Mattingly, based on the place that card held for me growing up.

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  • I have plenty but outside of the obvious choices like the ones that carry huge hobby significance. I would get and have always wanted a high grade well centered in focus 48 Leaf Ted Williams. I've always thought that is his best looking card and he was an American Hero. I always gravitate towards players that served and ol Ted served plenty.
  • The mordern card I wanted but never got as a kid would be the 84 Donruss Donnie baseball. Betting that was a lot of hobbiests holy grail as a kid.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PSA 8 T206 Green Ty Cobb
    or
    PSA 8 1909 E90-1 American Caramel Ty Cobb pop 2
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The mordern card I wanted but never got as a kid would be the 84 Donruss Donnie baseball. Betting that was a lot of hobbiests holy grail as a kid. >>



    Oh, it sure was. Having any of his major 1984 cards made you a rock star in NYC growing up as a kid in the mid-late '80s. The Strawberry and Gooden Traded cards were also elusive and almost mythical like the 84D Donnie was, at that time. The images still hit that part of the brain when looking at them today.

    I remember one time in 1986 I had a 1984 Topps Donnie-- but I was looking at the card on my windowsill while I was sick and home from school; the window was open and I left it unattended for a moment. When I came back it had blown out the window...gone.

    Then in '89 I traded the kid across the street for his Donnie 84 Topps. It was my second crack at having one after the window debacle. He was a huge Will Clark fan and we made a pretty equitable deal. I was so pumped to have one-- until his uncle knocked on our door and demanded I undo the trade. What a bush league move, LOL!

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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i'd love to be that person who finds and grades the first 1933 Sport Kings #20 Duke Kahanamoku PSA Gem Mint Hang 10.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For my Cardinals collection - 1961 Topps Dice Game Stan Musial. I would never sell it anyway.

    Otherwise, a 1915 Sporting News Babe Ruth.

    Shane

  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great call on the Dice Game Musial. For hardcore player collectors that issue is insanely tough.

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  • 1985 Topps Baseball #620
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    I am too paranoid to say. Not kidding.
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • Easy

    1961 Fleer PSA 9 Wilt Chamberlain

    Barry
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1985 Topps Baseball #620 >>



    That was one of the first graded cards I ever bought. Way back when I crossed it hoping for a BGS 10. I remember looking through CURRENT CARD PRICES when I was a kid and seeing the Gooden #620 always had the big black diamond next to it, which meant it was hot. The card had that diamond for like a year straight.

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  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭
    A mint, centered, no-tilt Ozzie Smith Topps rookie. He was my favorite player growing up for several reasons. I grew up in San Diego. I played short stop in Little League (it seems like most of us had a favorite player who played the same position we did). Ozzie lived up the street from me for a while (a very basic inland suburb). And he was the most exciting Padre at the time - defensively at least. Card shows were big in the 1980s in So Cal, but in all my years of looking, I never saw his rookie card even close to being centered. I did manage to get an Ozzie Smith from a wax box my parents bought me at Price Club, but it was cut like your typical Ozzie. Even the 10s out there suffer from some tilt, it seems.

    Second choice would be a signed 1978 Topps Munson. 1978 is the first year I collected. I've been working on a signed set for years and am down to a half-dozen cards. The Munson is nearly impossible to find.
    Always buying 1971 OPC Baseball packs.


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    << <i>1985 Topps Baseball #620 >>



    That was one of the first graded cards I ever bought. Way back when I crossed it hoping for a BGS 10. I remember looking through CURRENT CARD PRICES when I was a kid and seeing the Gooden #620 always had the big black diamond next to it, which meant it was hot. The card had that diamond for like a year straight.

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    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Brutal card. I am still looking for an Ozzie with no bottom tilt myself. I don't care if such a specimen surfaces in POOR 1 condition, it would still be so much rarer than a high grade one with the usual tilt.

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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    A Kalamazoo Bats Ed Andrews. Had a few chances and just didn't pull the trigger.
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    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wish I could jump in that photo and take some BP with that guy. Maybe if I smoke enough...

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The mordern card I wanted but never got as a kid would be the 84 Donruss Donnie baseball. Betting that was a lot of hobbiests holy grail as a kid. >>



    Oh, it sure was. Having any of his major 1984 cards made you a rock star in NYC growing up as a kid in the mid-late '80s. The Strawberry and Gooden Traded cards were also elusive and almost mythical like the 84D Donnie was, at that time. The images still hit that part of the brain when looking at them today.

    I remember one time in 1986 I had a 1984 Topps Donnie-- but I was looking at the card on my windowsill while I was sick and home from school; the window was open and I left it unattended for a moment. When I came back it had blown out the window...gone.

    Then in '89 I traded the kid across the street for his Donnie 84 Topps. It was my second crack at having one after the window debacle. He was a huge Will Clark fan and we made a pretty equitable deal. I was so pumped to have one-- until his uncle knocked on our door and demanded I undo the trade. What a bush league move, LOL! >>



    Great story Bro!
    I think we all have a lot of similar stories regarding the 1984 Donruss Mattingly. It's very telling how incredibly popular that card is even though his career fizzled out and he won't be in the HOF. It's just remained an iconic card to those of us in our late 30's/early 40's who were into cards like crazy as kids.

    It was the Holy Grail for me as well. Legend had it that it did exist, but I had never seen one. Local card shops had none, the $25 wax packs never yielded one. What did it look like? And is 1984 Donruss really as rare as 1952 Topps High Numbers? (At least that was my perception). Is it a short print? Is it just a hoax? Number 248 was etched in my brain...

    One Christmas, I got a pack of 1984 Donruss. I let my mom open it for good luck. Lo and Behold, the 6th card in came Donnie Baseball. After seeing the 1984F and Topps, it wasn't what I was expecting. But I became enamored with it. Just thought it was a treasure I found that some day I could sell for a million trillion dollars. I immediately put it in one of those 1" deep screw down plastic cases, thinking it's as secure as it can get. (Uh, not so much lol) I had that card sitting on my nightstand in my bedroom forever. Finally got out of cards and packed it up, not to be seen again until 5 years ago when I started getting back into it. I sent it in for grading, got an 8 and sold it on eBay. Looking back, I really regret doing that. But the memories are all good!

    Ah, those were the days
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  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great story, bro. Gives me the idea for another thread will be starting now...

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I'd have to go with my idol growing up ... THE MICK. Not sure what year I started watching baseball, but I'll go with 1963 (when I was 5 years old). That would mean I only got to see him play for 6 years, but just hearing the name "MICKEY MANTLE" would bring a smile to my face when I was a kid. A nicely centered autographed '52 Topps would be great to look at each day!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Brutal card. I am still looking for an Ozzie with no bottom tilt myself. I don't care if such a specimen surfaces in POOR 1 condition, it would still be so much rarer than a high grade one with the usual tilt. >>



    I honestly don't know if it's possible. If you accept the premise that he tilt is due to the way it was produced and not a cutting issue, then the only way you'd lose the tilt is by having a diamond cut card with tilted vertical edges.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have thought the same thing; am prepared to never see one with a straight bottom banner image

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    If I could have one card but never sell it, it would be this (yes, I'm serious)...

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    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    1954 Topps Al Kaline PSA 8 or better.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I could have one card but never sell it, it would be this (yes, I'm serious)...

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    Thank you, bro. Deeply appreciate that.

    That particular card means a lot to me-- not just for the reasons in my first post about The Babe and the card's place in baseball and hobby history, but that specific example crystallizes the whole ethos of buying the card and not the grade, which is how I roll.

    Funny, I received a very serious offer on the card yesterday night, and was discussing it with a fellow collector this morning. Turned it down. I even explained it to my lady and while initially she thought me nuts, after showing her pictures of others in higher grade, she actually agreed with keeping it. I made the case that to ever replace it with the same centering, whiteness, no print line, and just overall eye appeal, it would cost a crazy ton more (with no guarantee such an example even surfaces in years) and would therefore be impossible.

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  • MikeyPMikeyP Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    T206 Honus Wagner. I would even be willing to bequeath it with the condition that it never be sold, but it could be donated to a museum.
    "Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood."
  • 1915 Cracker Jack #30 Ty Cobb
    I'm building a 1968 and a 1970 Topps set. I have lots of 1970s and 1960s to offer in trade.
  • I'll go with a dark horse candidate. 1968 topps 3D Clemente in PSA 10. I'd feel compelled to keep the Wagner or Ruth rookie in a safe deposit box, so I wouldn't get to enjoy them much. I'd also put a Cobb, Mathewson or Wagner W600 on the short list.
  • baz518baz518 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you accept the premise that he tilt is due to the way it was produced and not a cutting issue >>



    I thought the Ozzie was a cutting issue, similar to other cards on the corners of the sheet? Problem with blade pushing the sheets as it cut or something.
  • bigdcardsbigdcards Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    +1 for Ozzie, but I'd like an sgc 100 from the 1980 set.
    To bigdcards: "you are right" - cpamike "That is correct" -grote15
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PSA 10 1963 Fleer Lance Alworth rookie.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Matty, is that card a blank back or an ad back? If so which one?

    My concern about '68 3d's (and any Kellogg's 3D's) is post slabbing cracking. It's happened to a few people I know, and while it's not a huge loss on Kellogg's, on '68 Topps it could be a 5 figure loss.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's



  • << <i>I'll go with a dark horse candidate. 1968 topps 3D Clemente in PSA 10. I'd feel compelled to keep the Wagner or Ruth rookie in a safe deposit box, so I wouldn't get to enjoy them much. I'd also put a Cobb, Mathewson or Wagner W600 on the short list. >>




    GREAT call on the Clemente!
    I'm building a 1968 and a 1970 Topps set. I have lots of 1970s and 1960s to offer in trade.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Deep calls on the 3D Roberto and W600s. A Cobb is up now actually on Goodwin. Great piece.



    << <i>Matty, is that card a blank back or an ad back? If so which one?

    >>



    Here's the back-- Sporting News version. I knew beggars could not be choosers, so would have taken any back on the card, but as it worked out it had the most desirable back for me. Was cool and lucky the important words were left unmolested.

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  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    I have 2 choices:

    1. 1960 Topps Venezuelan #148 Yaz RC. Would love to be the owner of the PSA 5 that is pop 1, none higher or, even better, to find and sub the first PSA 6

    2. A T-206 card of any HOFer. The set is iconic and attractive, I don't own any yet, and it would be awesome if I had one of the big guns from that set.
  • jimmygjimmyg Posts: 139 ✭✭
    1964 Topps Pete Rose. I first saw it when I pulled an '86 Topps 'The Pete Rose Years' card from a pack. Pete Rose was my favorite player and I had never seen his earlier cards. That '64 card had everything: rookie trophy, Pete was a Red, and he was a second baseman.
  • jjwormjjworm Posts: 196 ✭✭
    For me it's the 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams. Simple and timeless.

    Collecting:

    - Post War baseball HOF RC's
    - 1980's unopened baseball
    - All Mutoscope and American Beauties

  • Tough call for me.
    1953 Topps Jackie Robinson
    1950 Jackie Robinson
    1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    Matt, the centering on that Ruth is ridiculous!
  • Iconic cards aside I would narrow it down to 2 cards.

    85 topps and 86 fleer mattingly.
    I met Donnie at a charity dinner as a kid and had both signed. The 85 topps is signed on back and front as his pen dried up during his signing front.

    I will get scans. Would never sell and will always cherish.

    52T mantle would be my one iconic choice.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Donnie fans are strong here. My cousin just said he'd pick 1986 Topps Donnie as his desert island card.

    And thx, Dan!

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  • << <i>My concern about '68 3d's (and any Kellogg's 3D's) is post slabbing cracking. It's happened to a few people I know, and while it's not a huge loss on Kellogg's, on '68 Topps it could be a 5 figure loss. >>



    Very good observation on the cracking. That would suck if you ever needed to sell it. The OP's suggestion was that it is a card you'll never sell. I think I could live with a crack if it's in my personal collection. It would probably be wise to save a few bucks and buy a lower grade that presents well. I think the card has a great image of one of the best.
  • creecree Posts: 393 ✭✭
    My two picks would have to be a PSA 10 1968 Topps Nolan Ryan Rookie card and or a PSA 10 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson Rookie card.
  • 1951 Parkhurst Gordie Howe PSA 8.
  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
    That 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams is hard to beat. I might take that one. Disregarding value, I love the 1954 Topps Ted Williams #1.

    Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ted has a ton of gorgeous and slept-on cards. The 54 Franks is among my favorite cards in the whole hobby. His 50 Bowman, 54 Topps "bookends," 56 Topps, and 57 Topps are all gorgeous. I'm sure there are others I haven't gotten that into yet. Ted's stats seem cartoonish on baseball reference.

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  • That 57 Wiliams is just such a beautiful card. Of course 57s are about as pretty a card as I can think of.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    A DEAD CENTERED 1979 OPC Mike Bossy #161.

  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ted has a ton of gorgeous and slept-on cards. The 54 Franks is among my favorite cards in the whole hobby. His 50 Bowman, 54 Topps "bookends," 56 Topps, and 57 Topps are all gorgeous. I'm sure there are others I haven't gotten that into yet. Ted's stats seem cartoonish on baseball reference. >>



    56 Ted is awesome
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    I'm lucky that I have fairly plebeian tastes and I already have my holy grail in the form of a 1935 National Chicle Bronko Nagurski (PSA 3).

    I've coveted the Chicle set since I first saw the Nagurski in a price guide back in the early 80's.

    Its art deco design looked like no other card I had ever seen, 1935 seemed absolutely ancient to my teen mind, and I couldn't ever imagine being able to afford one.

    If I had to get rid of everything but one item, it would be my ghetto grade Chicle set. If I had to get rid of everything but one card, it would be the Bronk. image

    Snorto~
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting answers so far. I've got mine actually. Mine is the 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC (it is a self submitted BGS 9).
    Steve
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