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mattyc_collection

So this one I think is even cooler than the Molitor RC to PSA 10 from PSA 9. I saw this card in a 7 holder one day cruising eBay, and it just screamed out that it was way better than the grade. I scrutinized it and blew up the scan, and just thought it was beautiful.

The BIN for this PSA 7 was a staggering $44.50. The VCP average was barely $15. The record high at the time for a PSA 7 was only $23. Some might have thought I was a fool to pay so much for a 7, essentially shattering the sacred pricing history. But I knew what I saw, and was happy to have what looked to me to be a 9 even if it said 7, and the price was way cheaper than what a 9 would cost me.

In hand it was just as strong. Had one slightly weak corner in top left, but the others were solid 9 corners and it had less PD than most 9s I've seen, and way better centering than many. Then one day a buddy was driving a bunch of stuff down to PSA and was like, "You really should crack and resubmit that 76 Ryan." I rolled with him and gambled for fun. And now BAM.

Goes to show we gotta trust our eyes. It also really cemented for me that if I take VCP too seriously and am unwilling to pony up a premium for a standout in the grade, I can miss out on really nice cards. The 9 scan is on a white background currently but will correct that soon.

OAKESY25

so it is not a review / bump
it is a crack / resub

right?

congrats on the grade.. I have quite a few 8's and 9's that should be in 9-10 holders
a few I am trying to have reviewed right now.

mattyc_collection

Yes-- cracked it. Typed review by mistake/brain cramp, just corrected.

grote15

That is an awesome bump, Matty-congrats!

No way that card bumps, though, from a 7 to a 9, unless it's cracked and resubbed raw.

mattyc_collection

100% agree, Grote-- had to be a crack-out all the way.

belz

Awesome!!!

Bosox1976

Fine job

RookieHOFers

Nice job Matt!

esquiresports

Nice! I really like that card.

ldferg

<< <i>100% agree, Grote-- had to be a crack-out all the way. >>



+1.

Nice eye. Great looking card.

ldferg

oops. double post.

packCollector

how is that card a 9 with that upper left corner?

While it is great for you to get the bump and get a nice score , that corner does not look like 9 quality.

I agree that the card looked like an undergraded 7 but now it looks like an overgraded 9. hopefully it is just your scanner that is making it look worse than it is. how does that corner look on the back

mattyc_collection

The corner is definitely the weak link on the card but still within 9 parameters. The shadowing on the 9 scan is making it look dinged when it looks better and more accurate to the reality in the 7 scan. When comparing the card to past sold 9s on VCP and it hangs or wins a good deal of the time on centering and lack of the usual PD. The 9 scan is also admittedly weak as it was done on white background. I can vouch that it's not an overgrade when held in hand.

Mefer

Congrats. That is a difficult card to find centered.

angelenocarddude

no one else is horrified that this business can exist when one person grades the same card as another that far apart? i have had so many obvious undergrades and a handful of surprises. i just cannot understand how grading can be this subjective. it's worse than strike zones

mattyc_collection

Strike zones is such an apt analogy. Great call. Extremely subjective despite the guidelines and hence why it's all about the card and not the sticker. Unfortunately a strike cannot be rectified no matter what the aggrieved party believes the pitch was; in contrast at least via crackouts or reviews there's a chance a card can get another at bat. In that respect I guess I am less horrified by card graders making mistakes than a horrifically bad call in a huge moment of a huge game. What irks me more if anything personally is the grading standards/definitions themselves and how some flaws (micro wrinkle barely visible to naked eye, speck of paper loss) or strengths (centering, eye appeal) are weighted, or not, relative to others.

MiniDuff

Grats Matty. Continues to reinforce that you are better off cracking and resubbing 95% of the time. The only time I won't is when the slabbed card is just too expensive to risk.

lightningboy

no one else is horrified that this business can exist when one person grades the same card as another that far apart

I am not. What is the alternative? Back to old school where one person sells a raw "mint" card and the buyer receives said "mint" card in "excellent" condition?

There will always be a subjective nature to the business. Possibly if the same graders saw that very card again they may both give it an 8. At least they can narrow down a card's true condition relative to their grading scale. And lastly, the "buy the card not the holder" comes into play. That card probably sold for much better than typical 7's and may not sell quite as high as typical 9's do.

For the most part I think the graders do an admirable job.

Downtown1974

<< <i>no one else is horrified that this business can exist when one person grades the same card as another that far apart

I am not. What is the alternative? Back to old school where one person sells a raw "mint" card and the buyer receives said "mint" card in "excellent" condition?

There will always be a subjective nature to the business. Possibly if the same graders saw that very card again they may both give it an 8. At least they can narrow down a card's true condition relative to their grading scale. And lastly, the "buy the card not the holder" comes into play. That card probably sold for much better than typical 7's and may not sell quite as high as typical 9's do.

For the most part I think the graders do an admirable job. >>



If you use the logic of buying the card and not the holder in this instance, isn't it still a $44 card? The only thing that has changed IS the holder.

mattyc_collection

Fortunately for me, the card was $44 precisely because more people didn't buy the card and not the holder. At auction I would have sniped way way higher
Was just able to do a better scan now with a black background.

leadoff4

RyanAdmirer

Well done! That is a beauty and have to wonder how it ever was a 7 in the 1st place.

BaltimoreYankee

<< <i>Continues to reinforce that you are better off cracking and resubbing 95% of the time. The only time I won't is when the slabbed card is just too expensive to risk. >>



There are other times when cracking doesn't pay. I had a '61 Yaz PSA 5 card (not very expensive) that I cracked and resubbed and got a "min size req" on. Guess it shrunk in the holder.