My limited experience with KSA regarded two 1970 OPC baseball cards. One, a Seaver #300 graded a KSA 9, that came back a PSA 8. The other, a Pete Rose All Star #458, graded KSA 8. It came back as a PSA 8. I broke them out of the holders before submitting. You never know what can happen. Nice result on the Gretzky Tom.
I hope I am wrong (again) but I don't think it'll ever get into an 8 holder because of the centering and the centering of the oil dot in the Oilers logo. Two major distractions that bring down the overall appearance of the card, IMO.
It's still a beautiful card and I am super happy the crossover was a success!
Even though they don't have the best reputation, I would think there are lots of good cards in there holders. Think about it...
I don't see many people at all sending cards from the US to KSA. Most if not all the cards are coming from Canada The average person up there would probably send cards if interested in grading to KSA. Most people don't doctor cards and good stuff is getting slabbed
In the case of the Gretzky OPC rookie, the advantage I had was I got to see it when I bought it. This was not a eBay purchase. I was not looking at scans which can make it difficult at times to tell if a card has been trimmed.
I am not out looking for KSA cards but just saying that even though there mAY be bad stuff in there holders, I bet there are lots of good cards as well
I definitely agree and doubt anyone would say they're all bad. In my experience, I have had mostly good results with KSA cards, including a couple higher end (a Howe rookie, some nicer vintage). But, as with anything, *buyer beware*. It is also almost certainly true that it is *more likely* that a KSA card is tampered with or contains a hard to see flaw than an equivalent card graded by PSA. Be careful. And, remember: a little knowledge can be dangerous.
WTG Tom ... I just saw that Gretzky sitting in the PSA 7.5! Close to a grand right there. CONGRATS.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
This will be heading back. From what I can remember, Its well centered. Tough card in high grade >>
It is a tough card. Whatever the outcome, if you're interested in selling the Islanders card let me know as I'd like to add one to my personal collection.
Congrats on the Gretzky card! KSA can be all over the place - I wouldn't buy any from the East Coast. I recently looked at a Gretzky rookie that was raw and passed on it because it was undersized and looked trimmed on one side. I figured if (and it was a big IF) PSA did grade it, the grade would be a 5.5 at most. The seller went to the KSA booth at the card show and got a 7 for it.
To all the haters out there for KSA. It depends where the card was graded. KSA has 3 different locations. Nathan is the best out all 3. The location in upper Canada and the one around Montreal both suck at grading. I have bought cards, sold cards and crossed over cards breaking them out. Never had a problem with them. Yes 1 grade lower but I have also had 1 grade higher as well, so all in all if I broke out 100 cards with a average grade of a 8 I would have all cards come back as a average 8. I buy the card and not the holder. If it is in a KSA holder and it looks overgraded then chances are it was graded by one of the other locations that over grades cards so I don't buy or bid on it. It's like PSA opening another location to grade cards. If the same people are not doing it then there is no consistency. Hence KSA gets a bad rep because of the other locations. I bought some KSA cards awhile ago at a card show. 1952 Parkhurst mainly. I got to look at the cards before they got graded and after they got graded. The Howe I thought for sure was a 9 8.5 minimum even under PSA standards. KSA graded it at a 8. Even I asked why just a 8 ? Said back showed a little to much aging. I laughed inside because I have dealt with 52 parkies for over 30 years. This card especially should cross to a PSA 8 or higher. Haven't done much with cards lately because i'm doing my other hobby. Fixing up my 1966 Charger right now to show room condition, so the cards have just been sitting around for now. To all the KSA haters out there, thank you. Means more cards for me !! Cheers, Steve
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It's still a beautiful card and I am super happy the crossover was a success!
Even though they don't have the best reputation, I would think there are lots of good cards in there holders.
Think about it...
I don't see many people at all sending cards from the US to KSA. Most if not all the cards are coming from Canada
The average person up there would probably send cards if interested in grading to KSA.
Most people don't doctor cards and good stuff is getting slabbed
In the case of the Gretzky OPC rookie, the advantage I had was I got to see it when I bought it.
This was not a eBay purchase. I was not looking at scans which can make it difficult at times to tell if a card has been trimmed.
I am not out looking for KSA cards but just saying that even though there mAY be bad stuff in there holders, I bet there are lots of good cards as well
Congratulations. That is a terrific success story. Is it on your site yet?
BTW, if anyone is looking to consign, Tom is first rate. He has done a great job on my consignments. Keep up the great work.
Awesome, congratulations on getting such a great grade on that former KSA Gretzky!
Congrats!!
Justin
Retired - Eddie Mathews Master Registry Set (96.36%) Rank 1
51 1 23307482 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 60 Guy Chouinard Card
52 1 23307483 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 33 Garry Unger Card
53 1 23307484 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 83 Canadiens Make It 4 Straight Cups Card
54 1 23307485 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 81 Jets Emblem Checklist Card
55 1 23307486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 206 Bobby Smith Card
56 1 23307487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 254 Rangers Team Card
57 1 23307488 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 150 Ken Dryden Card
58 1 23307489 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1979 O-Pee-Chee 185 Bobby Hull Card...This was a KSA 8 crackout
59 1 23307490 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 155 Stan Mikita Card
60 1 23307491 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 82 Oilers Emblem Checklist Card
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
62 1 23307493 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 177 Tom Younghans Card
63 1 23307494 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 176 Richard Brodeur Card
64 1 23307495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 164 Brad Park Card
65 1 23307496 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 161 Mike Bossy Card
66 1 23307497 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 156 Paul Holmgren Card
67 1 23307498 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 103 Gary Smith Card
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Here are some grades that I got today. These were also part of the 1979 set ...
51 1 23307482 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 60 Guy Chouinard Card
52 1 23307483 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 33 Garry Unger Card
53 1 23307484 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 83 Canadiens Make It 4 Straight Cups Card
54 1 23307485 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 81 Jets Emblem Checklist Card
55 1 23307486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 206 Bobby Smith Card
56 1 23307487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 254 Rangers Team Card
57 1 23307488 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 150 Ken Dryden Card
58 1 23307489 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1979 O-Pee-Chee 185 Bobby Hull Card...This was a KSA 8 crackout
59 1 23307490 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 155 Stan Mikita Card
60 1 23307491 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 82 Oilers Emblem Checklist Card
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
62 1 23307493 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 177 Tom Younghans Card
63 1 23307494 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 176 Richard Brodeur Card
64 1 23307495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 164 Brad Park Card
65 1 23307496 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 161 Mike Bossy Card
66 1 23307497 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 156 Paul Holmgren Card
67 1 23307498 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 103 Gary Smith Card >>
GREAT grades for a TOUGH set!!!
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<< <i>Here are some grades that I got today. These were also part of the 1979 set ...
51 1 23307482 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 60 Guy Chouinard Card
52 1 23307483 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 33 Garry Unger Card
53 1 23307484 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 83 Canadiens Make It 4 Straight Cups Card
54 1 23307485 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 81 Jets Emblem Checklist Card
55 1 23307486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 206 Bobby Smith Card
56 1 23307487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 254 Rangers Team Card
57 1 23307488 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 150 Ken Dryden Card
58 1 23307489 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1979 O-Pee-Chee 185 Bobby Hull Card...This was a KSA 8 crackout
59 1 23307490 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 155 Stan Mikita Card
60 1 23307491 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 82 Oilers Emblem Checklist Card
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
62 1 23307493 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 177 Tom Younghans Card
63 1 23307494 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 176 Richard Brodeur Card
64 1 23307495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 164 Brad Park Card
65 1 23307496 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 161 Mike Bossy Card
66 1 23307497 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 156 Paul Holmgren Card
67 1 23307498 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 103 Gary Smith Card >>
GREAT grades for a TOUGH set!!! >>
Thanks
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
This will be heading back. From what I can remember, Its well centered. Tough card in high grade
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<< <i>
<< <i>Here are some grades that I got today. These were also part of the 1979 set ...
51 1 23307482 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 60 Guy Chouinard Card
52 1 23307483 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 33 Garry Unger Card
53 1 23307484 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 83 Canadiens Make It 4 Straight Cups Card
54 1 23307485 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 81 Jets Emblem Checklist Card
55 1 23307486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 206 Bobby Smith Card
56 1 23307487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 254 Rangers Team Card
57 1 23307488 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 150 Ken Dryden Card
58 1 23307489 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1979 O-Pee-Chee 185 Bobby Hull Card...This was a KSA 8 crackout
59 1 23307490 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 155 Stan Mikita Card
60 1 23307491 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 82 Oilers Emblem Checklist Card
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
62 1 23307493 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 177 Tom Younghans Card
63 1 23307494 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 176 Richard Brodeur Card
64 1 23307495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 164 Brad Park Card
65 1 23307496 NEAR MINT 7 1979 O-Pee-Chee 161 Mike Bossy Card
66 1 23307497 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 156 Paul Holmgren Card
67 1 23307498 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 103 Gary Smith Card >>
GREAT grades for a TOUGH set!!! >>
Thanks
61 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 O-Pee-Chee 253 Islanders Team Card
This will be heading back. From what I can remember, Its well centered. Tough card in high grade >>
It is a tough card. Whatever the outcome, if you're interested in selling the Islanders card let me know as I'd like to add one to my personal collection.
I recently looked at a Gretzky rookie that was raw and passed on it because it was undersized and looked trimmed on one side.
I figured if (and it was a big IF) PSA did grade it, the grade would be a 5.5 at most.
The seller went to the KSA booth at the card show and got a 7 for it.
It's like PSA opening another location to grade cards. If the same people are not doing it then there is no consistency. Hence KSA gets a bad rep because of the other locations. I bought some KSA cards awhile ago at a card show. 1952 Parkhurst mainly. I got to look at the cards before they got graded and after they got graded. The Howe I thought for sure was a 9 8.5 minimum even under PSA standards. KSA graded it at a 8. Even I asked why just a 8 ? Said back showed a little to much aging. I laughed inside because I have dealt with 52 parkies for over 30 years. This card especially should cross to a PSA 8 or higher. Haven't done much with cards lately because i'm doing my other hobby. Fixing up my 1966 Charger right now to show room condition, so the cards have just been sitting around for now.
To all the KSA haters out there, thank you. Means more cards for me !!
Cheers, Steve
PS. Congrats on that Gretzky !!
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NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-Pee-Chee 115 Mike Bossy Card