Lost/Stolen UPS Package
BBCE
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Hello!
A few weeks back we shipped an overnight UPS package to Canada containing some very expensive unopened boxes. The package was scanned for the next morning at 9:00 AM and then
completely vanished from earth. UPS security is looking at video and cannot explain where it went. Now after nearly 2 weeks, its not looking good. The items consisted of:
1973 Topps baseball 5th series wax box
1974 Topps baseball wax box
1976 Topps baseball rack box
1978 Topps baseball rack box (marked from sealed case)
1976 OPC baseball wax box
1977 OPC baseball wax box
1978 OPC baseball wax box
1979 OPC baseball wax box
If anyone happens to see a group like this for sale in our shrinkwrap and labeled (especially in Canada?), please contact us.
Thanks! Steve
A few weeks back we shipped an overnight UPS package to Canada containing some very expensive unopened boxes. The package was scanned for the next morning at 9:00 AM and then
completely vanished from earth. UPS security is looking at video and cannot explain where it went. Now after nearly 2 weeks, its not looking good. The items consisted of:
1973 Topps baseball 5th series wax box
1974 Topps baseball wax box
1976 Topps baseball rack box
1978 Topps baseball rack box (marked from sealed case)
1976 OPC baseball wax box
1977 OPC baseball wax box
1978 OPC baseball wax box
1979 OPC baseball wax box
If anyone happens to see a group like this for sale in our shrinkwrap and labeled (especially in Canada?), please contact us.
Thanks! Steve
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Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
James
I hope it is just a customs slow down and the lucky buyer gets his order. That 1976 OPC box sounds fun.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I collect: 80’s Rookies and 86 Fleer Basketball
Sorry to hear this, Steve. I hope these boxes turn up soon.
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"America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.
<< <i>Sorry to hear this, Steve. I hope these boxes turn up soon.
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Ditto
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
This is known as “bad luck.”
<< <i>I thought UPS had chain of custody procedures for packages with a declared value over $5K. The package has to ride up front with the driver when picking up from the shipper. The package is kept in the high value cage at a hub. The package is loaded up front with the driver when it is scheduled for the delivery. UPS instituted all of these procedures to prevent this exact circumstance. UPS should know exactly when the package "disappeared". >>
This is not correct....
Nothing rides up front with the driver and there is no high value cage
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Does UPS have an insurance cap on collectibles or loss like Fed Ex does? >>
Now that is a good question, I don't know
<< <i>I am sure BBCE has their own 3rd party insurance that governs this. As should everyone... >>
True, forgot about that.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I am sure BBCE has their own 3rd party insurance that governs this. As should everyone... >>
General question? If an insurance company pays out a claim for something like this don't they then own the item? Can someone collect an insurance claim and then also get the product back?
When I was at DHL any high dollar item always went into a secured cage and had to be signed
for by the driver. I don't know how the customs works but we had our own agent that checked
everything at the terminal so that would speed up the process. It didn't give it a free pass
at customs though. Nothing ever rode in the cab but you could easily get to the cargo from
the cab...
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
Customs duties into Canada are 15% I believe, and that list of items would have resulted in a multi-thousand dollar bill.
Dave
<< <i>That assumes that is was identified as a high-value item, and insured.
Customs duties into Canada are 15% I believe, and that list of items would have resulted in a multi-thousand dollar bill. >>
Would that still apply if the owner shipped the boxes to BBCE for authentication? If he has proof that he already owned the boxes would he have to pay duties?
James
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<< <i>That assumes that is was identified as a high-value item, and insured.
Customs duties into Canada are 15% I believe, and that list of items would have resulted in a multi-thousand dollar bill. >>
Would that still apply if the owner shipped the boxes to BBCE for authentication? If he has proof that he already owned the boxes would he have to pay duties?
James >>
I would think that scenario would exempt the owner from any duties. However, I would also think that the Customs people would probably want to
inspect the contents and proof of ownership documentation (e.g. bills of sale) to substantiate the claim. Otherwise, one could simply ship a box of
rolled up newspapers weighing approximately what they wanted to have sent from BBCE and then purchase practically anything duty-free.
Dave
I want to know how to get on the list to purchase those kinds of items
Robb
<< <i>I would think that scenario would exempt the owner from any duties. >>
I don't know the exact details, but Canadians are definitely exempt if they own an item and mail it to the U.S. for a period without it changing possession. Same for Canadians who send cards to PSA for grading. No duties upon return.
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<< <i>I would think that scenario would exempt the owner from any duties. >>
I don't know the exact details, but Canadians are definitely exempt if they own an item and mail it to the U.S. for a period without it changing possession. Same for Canadians who send cards to PSA for grading. No duties upon return. >>
I know buying US cards from a foreign seller, no duties are due for 'repatriation'. I would think something similar would apply for Canadians with OPC, no?
something like this on your worst enemy.
Question......What if these things turn up at a national a year from now. The guy trying to sell these claims he's from Canada and
traded a high grade 1951 Parkhurst PSA set and a game worn Gretzky uniform a year ago from another guy in Canada for these boxes.
The seller of these boxes at the national claims he has no info on the guy he got these boxes from, as it was just a straight up trade.
Who legally owns these boxes ? Steve ? Or the guy who traded for them ?
I had a bunch of cards stolen from me about 20 years ago, most of it isnt worth anything now, but back then, it was. They showed up a few years later and I recognized the cards as the group stolen, but at that point there was no way to ever show proof that I owned them. Years later I was finally able to track down who originally stole them....that person now rests in a state prison for other crimes and I hope he rots.
so sorry to hear--as mentioned it's a nightmare for both. Unlike a priceless piece of art--where stealing then selling it is very tough because of the rarity of the item-this was probably not earmarked for a regular collector.
Good chance it will end up on the market--though probably not in its intact form
Who legally owns these boxes ? Steve ? Or the guy who traded for them ?
presumably there is insurance so Steve or the buyer will be compensated for some of it depending on the coverage--once they are made "whole" the carrier retains the rights to the goods if found
In the case of a "buyer in good faith" the buyer who traded for the stolen goods may be entitled to them so long as he can show he bought the goods in good faith and paid valuable consideration
But that would not stop a carrier from trying to recover the goods. Happens all the time
Hope these boxes show up. I would hate to be in this position
Best,
Steven
<< <i>With technology nowadays, I am surprised a company has not developed a small reusable GPS tracking device for shipping. Imagine being able to know the location of packages through the entire system or the location where it went of course. One day, I expect this to become commonplace. Just the possibility of these devices would likely deter most lost packages / thefts. >>
It exists. They are called RFID tags. Primarily used in the military for the most part. The tag itself always has the ability to be located. The tags are not expensive at all, but this is primarily a technology our military is using, so there are not many companies out there commercially that actually have the tracking capabilities to go along with the tags. Thats where the technology at this point is relatively expensive, at least on the commercial segment.
Matt
I collect: 80’s Rookies and 86 Fleer Basketball
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<< <i>With technology nowadays, I am surprised a company has not developed a small reusable GPS tracking device for shipping. Imagine being able to know the location of packages through the entire system or the location where it went of course. One day, I expect this to become commonplace. Just the possibility of these devices would likely deter most lost packages / thefts. >>
It exists. They are called RFID tags. Primarily used in the military for the most part. The tag itself always has the ability to be located. The tags are not expensive at all, but this is primarily a technology our military is using, so there are not many companies out there commercially that actually have the tracking capabilities to go along with the tags. Thats where the technology at this point is relatively expensive, at least on the commercial segment.
Matt >>
I think WalMart requires them of all suppliers and maybe Amazon too, but not on packages shipped to customers.
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<< <i>With technology nowadays, I am surprised a company has not developed a small reusable GPS tracking device for shipping. Imagine being able to know the location of packages through the entire system or the location where it went of course. One day, I expect this to become commonplace. Just the possibility of these devices would likely deter most lost packages / thefts. >>
It exists. They are called RFID tags. Primarily used in the military for the most part. The tag itself always has the ability to be located. The tags are not expensive at all, but this is primarily a technology our military is using, so there are not many companies out there commercially that actually have the tracking capabilities to go along with the tags. Thats where the technology at this point is relatively expensive, at least on the commercial segment.
Matt >>
I think WalMart requires them of all suppliers and maybe Amazon too, but not on packages shipped to customers. >>
It's cheaper than most people think.
tile app
Edit to add: This app/device is only the beginning. Give them time and the range will be where it needs to be.