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Why did the Panini thread get pulled?

mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
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I'm sure there are dozens of potentially plausible and fun reasons.

Just curious-
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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guessing rules 4 & 8.
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>Guessing rules 4 & 8. >>


    Rule 4) Anyone making libelous remarks concerning any individual, any company, or any other entity will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

    Rule 8) This forum is provided for the education and sharing of information, not as a personal soapbox. If you want to learn and share information about trading cards and/or memorabilia, you are welcome here.
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  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a modern FB collector, I was interested to find out if there truly is a problem with Contenders autos. I'm sure Panini made more than 25 - for QC reasons at least - but the numbers being estimated made me wonder.
    Mike
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As a modern FB collector, I was interested to find out if there truly is a problem with Contenders autos. I'm sure Panini made more than 25 - for QC reasons at least - but the numbers being estimated made me wonder. >>


    Agreed, and I don't think a rational thread on the topic would get pulled.
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    Follow this thread on the Blowout forums.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>As a modern FB collector, I was interested to find out if there truly is a problem with Contenders autos. I'm sure Panini made more than 25 - for QC reasons at least - but the numbers being estimated made me wonder. >>


    Agreed, and I don't think a rational thread on the topic would get pulled. >>



    Yes, the OP on those threads was a little fragile.
    Mike
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Agreed, probably more about how he posted than what he posted.
    I don't think that could be characterized as libelous
  • vols1vols1 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭
    He would get a quicker resolution talking to the NFL properties. This is why the Upper Deck's of the world no longer have a license.

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  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    If it were proven to be true, could it still be considered libelous??
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  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>As a modern FB collector, I was interested to find out if there truly is a problem with Contenders autos. I'm sure Panini made more than 25 - for QC reasons at least - but the numbers being estimated made me wonder. >>


    Agreed, and I don't think a rational thread on the topic would get pulled. >>



    Yes, the OP on those threads was a little fragile. >>



    Lol he's a lunatic.
  • BostonAmericansBostonAmericans Posts: 434 ✭✭


    << <i>Lol he's a lunatic. >>



    A deep pocketed lunatic (he spent $200k on cards donchaknow), but a lunatic nonetheless.
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  • CWCW Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭
    That was a lot of exclamation points....
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭
    is the op on a timeout?

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  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    I like to lurk here and read that thread. It was way over the top and to sum it up......an emotional rant.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>is the op on a timeout? >>

    nope

    edit: nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • DustoDusto Posts: 164
    If I ever get that emotional/hysterical about a piece of cardboard, please smack some sense into me.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>is the op on a timeout? >>

    nope

    edit: nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>



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  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293


    << <i>If I ever get that emotional/hysterical about a piece of cardboard, please smack some sense into me. >>



    Noted.
  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    Ok, here is the reply I obtained today from PSA regarding this matter..................


    Hello XXXXXX,



    Unfortunately, there was a mistake by PSA. There is only 25 cards printed, some of the (non-white jersey variations) graded by PSA may have been labeled with the same as the white jersey variation.



    Sorry for any inconvenience that this may have caused.



    If you have any more questions feel free to contact PSA Customer Service at (800)-325-1121



    Thank You,



    Andres Teutli

    PSA Customer Service

    Collectors Universe, Inc.

    ateutli@collectors.com

    1-800-325-1121
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So what are your thoughts now that this has been confirmed?


  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    So at this point I am taking PSA's word for it and am still awaiting the response from Panini, once I get that I will also post their reply. Just glad I only bought three of the white jersey cards and not more! Who knows if RW can win another super bowl this year the card can only go up in value. Until I can actually see 25 different scans of these cards there is no way to stay if there is more than 25 printed. I have learned a lesson from all of this, that is I am only buying vintage cards from now on, or limited cards that have a number printed on them to prevent stuff like this from happening!

  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    So since yesterday I have calmed down here a bit, but have to say that when I was first given the link to the blowout cards story I thought I was going to throw my computer!
  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    One thing here I was going to add was that since PSA stated that there was a mistake that the least that they could do would be to re-adjust the population report! We'll see what happens to that.
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    I am just gonna post something here so it doesn't seem like you are talking to yourself.....image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you can certainly take PSA's word that they mislabeled some of the cards.

    I do my best to not be critical of PSA when commenting on threads but one area I think that could use some improvement is this.

    If you speak with PSA I think you should ask them since this card is the one that is the most desired, have any collectors sent back cards to get them corrected and if so have they been removed from the population report?

  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am just gonna post something here so it doesn't seem like you are talking to yourself.....image >>




    LOL I was typing my response while he was firing off more.

  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    PSA really does need to go in and correct the population report but not sure if they really can or not since I was told that cards go back and forth, from BGS to PSA back to BGS and every time that card is dealt with they add another +1 into the population report!
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    Classic blowup without complete information, then brush it off like NBD, ITT.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PSA really does need to go in and correct the population report but not sure if they really can or not since I was told that cards go back and forth, from BGS to PSA back to BGS and every time that card is dealt with they add another +1 into the population report! >>




    Crack outs make the population totals very tough on some cards but if the lesser colors are being sent in and labeled wrong that is where a mistake was made. Otherwise there is little they can do.

    Do a search for completed listings and see what you find on the labels of the other examples.
  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    But what I still cannot figure out is the high number of BGS 9.5's unless there has also been mistakes made by them as well, who knows. After yesterday/today am going to stop dipping into newer rookies and just keep the money into older cards, I really do like the look of the Panini Football Contenders Series that is for sure! But it is a mystery to me why the limited edition cards are all not number stamped, to me if I were in charge of Panini I would number all "limited edition" cards to prevent speculation such as this.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    Some flips differentiate.

    Blue Jersey

    White Jersey
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    I forget what year it was but there were some Bowman chrome or Finest baseball red cards numbered to 5 and there were duplicate numbers out there.
    Wish I remember what year/cards they were...
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  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Classic blowup without complete information, then brush it off like NBD, ITT. >>



    Ridiculous!
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This worked out good for you. Those lawyers fees would have been expensive.

  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    Maybe I am attorney, just sayin
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe I am attorney, just sayin >>




    Time is money.


    Not to mention fighting a winning case with limited facts is impossible and the cost of discovery would be very high.


    It wouldn't matter if you didn't allocate any costs for your labor because it would still be expensive.


    You have $3,000 at risk or a little more. Your costs would eclipse this by a factor of 5 or more is my bet. Bad investment to try and sue for you.




  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    Lol, but with my typing skills I don't think so.....
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe I am attorney, just sayin >>



    Obviously not an English professor or typing instructor... image
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So since yesterday I have calmed down here a bit, but have to say that when I was first given the link to the blowout cards story I thought I was going to throw my computer! >>



    Understatement of this century.
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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    If you can't find your meds, you should always look under the bed first!
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  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293


    << <i>Maybe I am attorney, just sayin >>



    Mesapsa, no offense, but if I ever get arrested in Arizona, I am NOT calling you...
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Maybe I am attorney, just sayin >>



    Obviously not an English professor or typing instructor... image >>



    Maybe the Caveman Lawyer.
  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭
    The real casualty of the original thread being deleted

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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    don't forget Dink!

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    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    That picture defines what I see in my head when I think of this set of threads.
  • mesapsamesapsa Posts: 306
    Ok, how much for that clown card? Hahaaaa
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok, how much for that clown card? Hahaaaa >>



    Bad news. There were more than 25 made.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>So at this point I am taking PSA's word for it and am still awaiting the response from Panini, once I get that I will also post their reply. Just glad I only bought three of the white jersey cards and not more! Who knows if RW can win another super bowl this year the card can only go up in value. Until I can actually see 25 different scans of these cards there is no way to stay if there is more than 25 printed. I have learned a lesson from all of this, that is I am only buying vintage cards from now on, or limited cards that have a number printed on them to prevent stuff like this from happening! >>



    You probably don't want to hear this, but it will be impossible for anyone to ever prove that the print run was limited to 25 cards.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>

    That's a clown card, bro.

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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Is this Topps Platinum Doink card truly a 1/1, or did Topps make.......two?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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