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Giants24
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Maybe I missed this earlier but I do believe these are very recent.....wow.
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WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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I still remember when 1984 Fleer and 1984 Donruss boxes were selling for $350 a box. Now that was back when Mattingly and Strawberry rookies were going for a lot more so I dont see that happening again (though scarcity of the unopened alone could drive the values up).
I do wonder how much 1980, 1981 and 1982 Topps unopened product there is out there hiding in closets, etc. I alwyas thought it wasnt really until 1983 or 1984 that production really ramped up and demand really took off as new collectors in the mid 80s drove the demand and hence supply. But until recently 1980-1982 topps was easy to find and cheap.
Espeicaly 1981 Topps baseball. It was quite easy to obtain, but now its drying up (at least not alot available at current prices). Perhaps the hoarders are holding out for a bit higher prices.
Despite the lack of good rookies, I really like 1981 topps baseball and while its plentiful in openend form, it does seem like it is quite condition sensitive and could be a future sleeper.
My go-to checks have been 78 OPC Baseball up to $600/box
and 93 SP Jeter boxes have hit $500 on the list
I remember not too long ago, Steve's buy list was a dead page with almost laughable pricing
Interesting to watch how aggressive it has become and more in line with realized market pricing
for being a 'buy list'. Makes my job in finding what I want tougher, as a lot of people reference it as a bar set.
I know I do....Darn it market, slow down! I'd like to catch up lol!
<< <i>What I don't understand is why pre-1975 isn't seeing the same massive bumps in price increase. That stuff is even tougher to find yet isn't shooting the roof the same way. Why? >>
Prices for 72 and 73 baseball wax boxes have risen sharply, too. I think there is less fervor surrounding that era because there are so few full boxes coming up for sale, but the prices on the boxes that have come up for sale in recent memory (1970, 1972 and 1973) have seen strong jumps in values, too. Fritsch was selling 4th series 73 wax boxes for 2K a couple years ago; now they go for 5K minimum. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5th series 73 box exclipse 10K at auction right now. They were being sold for half that 2 years ago. Steve had a couple 1972 5th/6th series wax boxes about 18 months ago (we broke a couple here on the forum) and IIRC price was less than 7K. That same box would command 10K easily today, possibly 12K.
Just looked up our group rip prices--the 72 5th/6th series wax box was $5,400 and the 5th series 73 wax box was $4,680.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Interesting that the buy prices for some of the football didn't go up at all. >>
That is interesting. I think the lack of popularity the first time around has something to do with it. The nostalgia in fb cards is so different than BB.
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<< <i>What I don't understand is why pre-1975 isn't seeing the same massive bumps in price increase. That stuff is even tougher to find yet isn't shooting the roof the same way. Why? >>
Prices for 72 and 73 baseball wax boxes have risen sharply, too. I think there is less fervor surrounding that era because there are so few full boxes coming up for sale, but the prices on the boxes that have come up for sale in recent memory (1970, 1972 and 1973) have seen strong jumps in values, too. Fritsch was selling 4th series 73 wax boxes for 2K a couple years ago; now they go for 5K minimum. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5th series 73 box exclipse 10K at auction right now. They were being sold for half that 2 years ago. Steve had a couple 1972 5th/6th series wax boxes about 18 months ago (we broke a couple here on the forum) and IIRC price was less than 7K. That same box would command 10K easily today, possibly 12K.
Just looked up our group rip prices--the 72 5th/6th series wax box was $5,400 and the 5th series 73 wax box was $4,680. >>
For boxes. But pack prices don't seem to have moved, unless I'm missing something (a strong possibility). Steve has had 73 packs in stock for years (and 72 for most of that time) and yet they don't seem to move. He has 73 packs for $200/ea right now. People would really rather have 4 79 packs more than a 73? The prices for 72 packs haven't seemed to have moved much in the same time frame that late-70s stuff has doubled or tripled.
Seems like it's bulk mentality. Quantity seems to be trumping quality.
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<< <i>What I don't understand is why pre-1975 isn't seeing the same massive bumps in price increase. That stuff is even tougher to find yet isn't shooting the roof the same way. Why? >>
Prices for 72 and 73 baseball wax boxes have risen sharply, too. I think there is less fervor surrounding that era because there are so few full boxes coming up for sale, but the prices on the boxes that have come up for sale in recent memory (1970, 1972 and 1973) have seen strong jumps in values, too. Fritsch was selling 4th series 73 wax boxes for 2K a couple years ago; now they go for 5K minimum. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5th series 73 box exclipse 10K at auction right now. They were being sold for half that 2 years ago. Steve had a couple 1972 5th/6th series wax boxes about 18 months ago (we broke a couple here on the forum) and IIRC price was less than 7K. That same box would command 10K easily today, possibly 12K.
Just looked up our group rip prices--the 72 5th/6th series wax box was $5,400 and the 5th series 73 wax box was $4,680. >>
For boxes. But pack prices don't seem to have moved, unless I'm missing something (a strong possibility). Steve has had 73 packs in stock for years (and 72 for most of that time) and yet they don't seem to move. He has 73 packs for $200/ea right now. People would really rather have 4 79 packs more than a 73? The prices for 72 packs haven't seemed to have moved much in the same time frame that late-70s stuff has doubled or tripled.
Seems like it's bulk mentality. Quantity seems to be trumping quality. >>
There is definitely a strong premium now for the full box vs individual packs. That disparity is evident with mid to late 70s packs, too. A nice single 79 rack on ebay sells for $100 on a good day, but a full box is at $3K++ and climbing. Same for other years from 78 through 80, as well.
Personally, I'd take the 73 pack over 4 79 packs any day, though.
A couple of early 70s packs that have appreciated nicely, though, is 1970 and 1971 Topps baseball. Over past 5-6 years, single pack prices for those years have risen sharply, too.
I recall 73 packs selling for about $125 raw on the BBCE site a few years ago~so % wise the rise in value is not commensurate with the late 70s packs, but the $$ difference makes that deceiving, as a jump from $15 to $50 is not as much for many buyers, per pack, as the jump from $125 to $200. I do think that mid to late 70s packs were somewhat undervalued back then, but obviously that gap has been closed.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I would also say that the prices for PSA graded wax packs have also risen sharply across all years--I remember buying PSA 8 73 wax packs for around $125 a few years ago; now they sell for more than twice that amount. 74 wax packs are also commanding some very strong prices, with PSA 9 packs (of which there are more than a few) going for $250 of late. >>
I agree. Glad I picked up a few extra 1970 packs last year when I had the chance at National (PSA 8s mostly).
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