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Where's the wimmin at?
Seriously though, anyone have any ideas why there are so few women in numismatics? Women do collect other things like dolls. There seems to be a pretty fair number of females that buy/sell/collect antiques which may be the closest collectible compared to coins.
It doesn't seem like men are chasing them away or ignoring them at shows. Their money is just as good as any man's money.
I got nothing.
Seriously though, anyone have any ideas why there are so few women in numismatics? Women do collect other things like dolls. There seems to be a pretty fair number of females that buy/sell/collect antiques which may be the closest collectible compared to coins.
It doesn't seem like men are chasing them away or ignoring them at shows. Their money is just as good as any man's money.
I got nothing.
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<< <i>There are several prominent women in the business. >>
Name two.
peacockcoins
Charmy Harker and Meg Whitman, formerly of Ebay.
<< <i>Laura Sperber, Gail Watson, Christina Kartstedt and her daughter Melissa who btw holds the record for auctioning a single coin!
Charmy Harker and Meg Whitman, formerly of Ebay. >>
That's more than two.
Please, next time- follow instructions.
Thank you.
peacockcoins
<< <i>I've noticed there's far more women collectors in exonumia then coins. Surprisingly last year while on FB I noticed one of my ex GF's since we still have mutual friends was at Chicago ANA. I had no idea she was a collector as I never bring up this hobby while dating since it only adds geek points. >>
Waiting for the "happily ever after part..."
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<< <i>Laura Sperber, Gail Watson, Christina Kartstedt and her daughter Melissa who btw holds the record for auctioning a single coin!
Charmy Harker and Meg Whitman, formerly of Ebay. >>
That's more than two.
Please, next time- follow instructions.
Thank you. >>
Indian Head $10 Gold Date Set Album
<< <i>Laura Sperber, Gail Watson, Christina Kartstedt and her daughter Melissa who btw holds the record for auctioning a single coin!
Charmy Harker and Meg Whitman, formerly of Ebay. >>
I don't know if Meg was even aware that Ebay sold coins, but, if asked, she could be sure the odds were 110% before she knew what coins even were.
Catherine Bullowa, who is valued for her salty observations (usually spot on) and adored by hundreds. I think she's 92. Stop and say Hi. She has a table in Baltimore. Just started using an electric three-wheeler in the aisles.
Katie Duncan of Pinnacle.
Kim Kiick, ANA Executive Director
Julie Abrams runs the Legend auctions. She ran Teletrade 25 years ago.
Marti Korver, credit manager at Heritage
HRH's 25+ years executive assistant - think about it.
Think about it.
Stef, LucyBop, Mrs. TDN, the current owner of the Garrett 1804 $1 I owned in 1985 for 6 weeks, Penny Marshall, Janet Jones (Mrs. Wayne Gretzky), Polly Pittman - involved every pains-taking inch of the way. Susan Stack, up until maybe 2005(?), ran accounting, credit, and lot delivery. Now she skis. Mrs. Eric P. Newman.
C'mon.. There are more.
Later I was more dedicated in filling in my stamp album.
She was probably doing stuff like sewing her own clothes, as that's what my mom offered.
I had dreams of someday as an adult being rich enough to get some of the cool old coins like a bust dollar.
Where do those dreams/ambitions originate? I'm not sure.
It might be an indirect desire to accumulate assets to be a man who could support a wife and family.
Perhaps in these somewhat modern times with many good professional opportunities for women,
more young girls might have similar dreams to what I had.
It might take awhile for them to reach the age where they have the assets to spare, though.
Liz Coggan, Numismatic Buyer - Liz spends a good portion of her day on the telephone buying and selling coins.
Liz entered the coin business as a secretary to Q. David Bowers at the young age of 18. Under his tutelage Liz learned
about all aspects of numismatics as well as how to run a successful auction house and mail order company. Whether you
collect Lincoln cents or rare United States gold pieces, Liz will put all her experience and knowledge together to find
the right coins for you. She travels to all of the major coin conventions and has numerous dealer contacts throughout
the United States. Liz is frequently called upon by collectors to represent them in the liquidation of their coin collection.
Her insider information of auctions and retail sales experience, along with her negotiating skills, combine to achieve
the highest prices realized for our client's coins. Liz has handled many great rarities and finest known specimens
during her numismatic career and is a specialist in die varieties in all United States coin series. Liz is also a contributor
to The Guide Book of United States Coins. Liz can be reached via email at liz@jjteaparty.com
She's no shabby numismatist.
<< <i>No list of women in numismatics is complete without mentioning Liz Coggan. >>
Great minds at 8:52 MrHalfDime.
My future father-in-law collects stamps, but not as passionately as I do coins, so my fiancée also finds my hobby to be attractive not geeky. Moreover, my fiancée says she wants to learn about coins so she can help me build the collection. And, she's young and attractive (at least compared to me). Yeah, I really feel lucky with her.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
I cannot get her interested in coins. Oh well.
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<< <i>Laura Sperber, Gail Watson, Christina Kartstedt and her daughter Melissa who btw holds the record for auctioning a single coin!
Charmy Harker and Meg Whitman, formerly of Ebay. >>
I don't know if Meg was even aware that Ebay sold coins, but, if asked, she could be sure the odds were 110% before she new what coins even were.
Catherine Bullowa, who is valued for her salty observations (usually spot on) and adored by hundreds. I think she's 92. Stop and say Hi. She has a table in Baltimore. Just started using an electric three-wheeler in the aisles.
Katie Duncan of Pinnacle.
Kim Kiick, ANA Executive Director
Julie Abrams runs the Legend auctions. She ran Teletrade 25 years ago.
Marti Korver, credit manager at Heritage
HRH's 25+ years executive assistant - think about it.
Think about it.
Stef, LucyBop, Mrs. TDN, Mrs. LS, the current owner of the Garrett 1804 $1 I owned in 1985 for 6 weeks, Penny Marshall, Janet Jones (Mrs. Wayne Gretzky), Polly Pittman - involved every pains-taking inch of the way. Susan Stack, up until maybe 2005(?), ran accounting, credit, and lot delivery. Now she skis. Mrs. Eric Newman.
C'mon.. There are more. >>
Florence Shook has an ANA school named after her. Kathy Freeland gives more back to the hobby than anyone I know.
Steve
Edited to include reply.
Think of the coin industry as a men's prison except with fewer women. Do that and the It's Raining Men type atmosphere won't bother you as much. But look at it on the bright side...you lose your sense of selectivity because after a few days at a coin show you'll start chasing what you normally wouldn't touch with a shovel handle.
My P.O. Box is in San Francisco, CA and my street address is in Mountain View, CA. In both cities men outnumber women. In Mountain View (Silicon Valley, hometown of Google) the men to women ratio is 130:100. Everyday is Oktoberfest with that ratio.
Although women are rare in this industry there are some notable personalities. Here's a partial list:
Laura Sperber
Christine and Melissa Karstedt
Irma Kane
Julie Abrams
Mary Sauvain
Catherine Bullowa
Katie Duncan
Charmy Harker
Sarah Miller
Liz Coggan
Gail Watson
Bonnie Sabel
Paige Danreuther
That is very partial list of women I can think of this very second. These women I've mentioned have decision making power and are not administrative assistants. They deal directly with the coins and have the knowledge to do that professionally.
Authorized dealer for PCGS, PCGS Currency, NGC, NCS, PMG, CAC. Member of the PNG, ANA. Member dealer of CoinPlex and CCE/FACTS as "CH5"
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“I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947)
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
poor Amanda...
<< <i>There are plenty of women selling coins. How do you think dealers buy coins at such great prices so they can sell them to you at retail. Those collections are not being sold by the men who put them together and know their worth. They are being sold by naive widows who trust that the person on the other side of the counter is telling them the truth and is paying them a fair price. >>
The truth of your words makes my blood boil.
<< <i>and those stuck at the coin shop get forgotten....
poor Amanda... >>
Let's not forget the thousands of wives and girlfriends who get up at the crack of dawn on freezing winter mornings to help schlep cases and "man" tables at local coin shows for their mates. Though not numismatists, deities should hold a special place in their heart for them. I know I do.
Steve
Sure, you can name ten women who are involved in numismatics. I bet you can name one hundred or more men involved in numismatics.
Women's hobbies are typically different than men's hobbies, and there is nothing wrong with this. Women like things that are 'cute'. Paper crafts are 'cute'. Shoes are 'cute'. Precious Moments figurines are 'cute'. Coins are not 'cute'. I don't think I have ever in my life heard a woman refer to a coin in my collection as 'cute', not even the tiny gold dollar.
Women also enjoy hobbies that are linked to emotion. Look at scrapbooking for example. How many men scrap book? How many women scrap book? Scrap booking is associated with the emotion of personal relationships that women cherish. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule. There are over 300 million people in the United States. Of course you will find a few exceptions. This cannot be disputed and the psychology behind it is easy to understand and needs no explanation.
I do not believe coin collecting is equally divided between men and women. If anyone wants to dispute this, first go to a coin show and lust look around the room. Attend a coin club meeting and take a good look at those in the room. I am not suggesting anything derogatory towards women by this statement. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman's appreciate for feminine activities. There is also nothing wrong for a woman's appreciation for more masculine hobbies.
This is just basic psychology and nothing more.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
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<< <i>I've noticed there's far more women collectors in exonumia then coins. Surprisingly last year while on FB I noticed one of my ex GF's since we still have mutual friends was at Chicago ANA. I had no idea she was a collector as I never bring up this hobby while dating since it only adds geek points. >>
When I sold off my love token collection, I do think quite a few of the buyers were female, now that you mention it. Makes sense, in a way, since love tokens can double as jewelry. (Which is not to suggest that ladies are only interested in them as jewelry, but you knowhutimean. Those holey or looped pieces do make for a snazzy charm bracelet.)
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Florence Shook has an ANA school named after her. Kathy Freeland gives more back to the hobby than anyone I know.
Steve
Edited to include reply. >>
Don't know Kathleen. Florence would have been at the top of the list if she were still alive.
Liz, sharp and rock-solid
<< <i>Here's what women picture when they think of coin collecting:
BAHAHAHAHAHAA I think I saw this guy at the last show!!!
“I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947)
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
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<< <i>Here's what women picture when they think of coin collecting:
BAHAHAHAHAHAA I think I saw this guy at the last show!!!
There has been a horrible mistake made here. That guy is no Coin Geek..
Im sure that is the macho hulkster than runs my neighborhood Comics Kingdom. A studly guy that moonlights
as a superhero crimefighter. Kickin ass n takin names.
three of the drop me after I related I collected coins.
They thought I was dorky and a nerd .
Today my wife is quite happy about my coin collection .
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Having said that, I have often wondered why women are in the numismatic minority, given that most of the appealing aspects of the hobby involve an aesthetic appreciation that is normally freely associated with the fairer gender. Among these are an appreciation of history, artistic creativity, beauty, grandeur of design, and works of art in precious metals -- as well as a general fondness for finer things.
There's this ...
Women in Numismatics website
My Coin Blog
My Toned Lincoln Registry Set
Works for me!
<< <i>There's this ...
Women in Numismatics website >>
Women in Numismatics ! But not limited to Women ? Forgive me for being just a bit confused.
Why not call it CIN - Collectors in Numismatics? Or anything?
Having taken tables at shows since 1990 one obvious fact is there are very few women coin collectors vs men and anyone who has taken the time to look around a coin show will notice this. One can draw their own conclusions as to why this is.
Recently I was contacted by a Stripper friend at a Club called Joy of Houston one of two clubs 3 miles down the street from my office which offer free buffet and a nice place to wait out the traffic after work which is horrible at that time. Houston, with its huge oil and energy money is probably the SC capital of the USA with a large number of clubs. I had met her while visiting the club one day after work for the free buffet, relaxation and to wait out the traffic. She had a 2009 UHR $20 she wanted to get an appraisal on as she was looking to sell it. I would have made her an offer but simply was not looking for one at this time. I referred her to a guy I had both worked with and interfaced at shows who was a partner in a coin shop who I knew to be fair. I quoted her both retail and wholesale. She later contacted me with his offer and I advised her to take it. In no way did she come across this coin due to collector interest. I would speculate she possibly received it as a gift (bonus) from a Sugar Daddy (mutually beneficial relationship) as this was shortly after Christmas. The guy probably even wrote it off on his income tax increasing cost of sales accordingly on his schedule C (COS = BI + Purchases - EI).
I have run into women type collectors at shows who are spending serious money assembling quality material. Others like World Currency with the many colorful designs or many of the beautiful notes in Large Size Type like the 1896 Educational Series.
I am glad to see women active in Numismatics and especially on this message board. The women I have met in numismatics are very solid in all aspects of the business and excel in things like show organization, auction management, being a dealer, etc. The contributions by Charmy and Amanda in their show reports are above and beyond and add so much to this board. Their show reports are the very first thing I read when opening this board. These reports give a good personable insight into the facility, people attending, type of inventory displayed, what its like to set up there, etc -super intel.
Cindy is also a founding member and past president of Women in Numismatics (WIN), and has held just about every board position - she is currently our secretary, and is still the backbone of our organization. WIN was founded in 1991 and is the premier organization for women in the field of numismatics. As a national non-profit corporation, our chartered goals are to encourage fellowship and learning through networking and social events, as well as offering educational seminars, scholarship programs, social events, and our informative literary publication, Winning Ways. We currently have several male members, as WIN is open to collector or dealer, novice or expert, male or female, anyone who wants to help promote and support women in the field of numismatics.
As some of you know, I am the current president of WIN, having taken on this responsibility a few months ago. My goal as president is to lead the board in a revitalization of WIN, focusing on expanding membership and providing social media platforms for members to connect, discuss, and promote their numismatic interests and ideas nation-wide. So if there is anyone out there with a desire to help support and encourage women in the field of numismatics, please feel free to contact me (charmy@thepennylady.com).
https://thepennylady.com/
carolinacollectorcoins.com
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>From JJ Teaparty Website.......................
Liz Coggan, Numismatic Buyer - Liz spends a good portion of her day on the telephone buying and selling coins.
Liz entered the coin business as a secretary to Q. David Bowers at the young age of 18. Under his tutelage Liz learned
about all aspects of numismatics as well as how to run a successful auction house and mail order company. Whether you
collect Lincoln cents or rare United States gold pieces, Liz will put all her experience and knowledge together to find
the right coins for you. She travels to all of the major coin conventions and has numerous dealer contacts throughout
the United States. Liz is frequently called upon by collectors to represent them in the liquidation of their coin collection.
Her insider information of auctions and retail sales experience, along with her negotiating skills, combine to achieve
the highest prices realized for our client's coins. Liz has handled many great rarities and finest known specimens
during her numismatic career and is a specialist in die varieties in all United States coin series. Liz is also a contributor
to The Guide Book of United States Coins. Liz can be reached via email at liz@jjteaparty.com
She's no shabby numismatist. >>
ive worked with liz on on a few things and she was awesome to work with (fwiw)
Danaca Tassara, V.P. of Jade Rare Coin
I ve heard there are actually a few men that collect Barbies.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
Women do not to seem to connect with numismatics well though. If their father collected coins they may have found an interest. I found an interest in coins because of my father. This is not a boys only game. And some day, I hope my collections passes to my son and my daughter when they do not need it for financial reasons. And can take it a greater level.
If the numismatics business is denominated by men now, it is only because fathers are not sharing the passion with their daughters.
OINK
Nothing.
And I think woman likes it that way.