Dave, Believe me, your doing an impressive great job ...keeping us informed, organizing everything bbce etc, and Still having time to PM me. and putting up with us. Ha Your work is def not going unnoticed.
<< <i>Question (sorry if I missed a previous explanation) - is each 79 rack automatically BBCE shrink wrapped and labeled from a sealed case, only upon request or is this not an option?
Thank you! >>
At present it would need to be asked for individually, but I'll ask Steve if he can do that automatically for everyone.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Dave - despite my earlier stated pessimism, I want to wish you guys the best of luck with this. The effort you have already put into this is remarkable.
I know you want to keep the maximum bid "strong but sane" but you should definitely consider getting a little insane with the bid to make this thing actually happen!
Dave, I'm sure you already thought of this but be sure to place an early bid on each of these items so you are eligible to bid after closing when the bidding really counts.
Maybe this is too much work...and I know we don't want to give hints to our max bid prices on any auction. But I was wondering if you could note the price of the last sold cases/box and break that down per pack so people can have an idea of the dollars they are committing to this effort? With the caveat that any successful bids will vary + or - from the last sale price and that the price doesn't include the 5% BBCE premium. Just a thought
1) The buyers premium at MLI is 19.5%. (not 17.5%)
2) Once the auction ends we'll make sure that the bids are disclosed, and try to share what went into coming up with those figures.
For now, our recommendation is to keep pricing discussions out of this thread (it is probably best kept in PMs between forum members so that potential competitors do not have the chance of gaining more pricing knowledge from our efforts).
70toppsfanatic et al., Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of. Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public. Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
<< <i>70toppsfanatic et al., Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of. Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public. Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
Thx again for all of ur hard work >>
Sorry, but it cant work that way. If people could set maximums and the bid prep team bids end up exceeding some of them then we'd potentially have a large auction invoice and not enough money to cover it.
The idea of getting knowledgeable and well respected mmebers on the bid prep team was to trust them. As stated at the top of the thread, if you are participating in this then you have agreed to accept the bid prep team's work on your behalf and are committed at the prices resulting from any of the bids which are successful.
You can be confident that a lot of thought went into coming up with the bids and there was not a win-at-any-price mentality. That being said, we did not come up with our bid figures simply to go through the motions and get everybody's hopes up. We are playing the game to win at levels that a trusted group of our members feel are reasonable in the current market.
Hope that addresses your concern. If not, please PM me.
<< <i>70toppsfanatic et al., Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of. Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public. Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
Thx again for all of ur hard work >>
Sorry, but it cant work that way. If people could set maximums and the bid prep team bids end up exceeding some of them then we'd potentially have a large auction invoice and not enough money to cover it.
The idea of getting knowledgeable and well respected mmebers on the bid prep team was to trust them. As stated at the top of the thread, if you are participating in this then you have agreed to accept the bid prep team's work on your behalf and are committed at the prices resulting from any of the bids which are successful.
You can be confident that a lot of thought went into coming up with the bids and there was not a win-at-any-price mentality. That being said, we did not come up with our bid figures simply to go through the motions and get everybody's hopes up. We are playing the game to win at levels that a trusted group of our members feel are reasonable in the current market.
Hope that addresses your concern. If not, please PM me. >>
+1
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
wow I didn't see this thread yesterday but I will be in for any vending boxes won or a 1975 mini wax pack box and please also put me done for some packs also..so any vending boxes 76-79 and if someone doesn't want I will take there place thanks..also put me down for a few 1979 racks..ty again...terry
I hate to do this to everybody, but I'm going to have to pass my slot of a 77 vending from case down to the next person who requested it. I talked to Dave and he said that it would be ok, he just wanted me to post it so nobody thinks there is any funny business going on. Again sorry I had to back out.
ok just to make sure I did this right please put me down for 2-1978 cello packs 2-1975 mini wax packs 2-1979 rack packs 1-1979 vending box if available 1-1977 vending box if available thanks again terry
Please remove my request for the vending box. If it is binding, then i will abide by it.
But in full disclosure I think I should excuse myself from participating in this group bid because I've decided to bid in this auction for my own collection.
So this auction has caught my interest as well as others for this quality unopened material. should be fun to watch.
I hope to win at least one, maybe 2-3 of the lots.
<< <i>And there it is, a board member who plans to bid against the group. It was bound to happen. >>
Yep, it's a free market and anyone has a right to bid and not collude against bidding. However, it seems like this is being done out of spite more than a genuine desire to own cases of 1970s cards.
Comments
Believe me, your doing an impressive great job ...keeping us informed, organizing everything bbce etc, and Still having time to PM me. and putting up with us. Ha
Your work is def not going unnoticed.
Thanks again!
2 1979 topps rack packs
2 1975 topps mini packs
2 1952 topps high nbr packs
Thanks
2 - 75 minis
2 - 79 racks
77 vending box from case
Thx
2 - 75 mini packs
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
My new website www.lowgradegems.com
Tim
Thanks.
Jason
<< <i>Question (sorry if I missed a previous explanation) - is each 79 rack automatically BBCE shrink wrapped and labeled from a sealed case, only upon request or is this not an option?
Thank you! >>
At present it would need to be asked for individually, but I'll ask Steve if he can do that automatically for everyone.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Dave
2 - 1979 rack packs
1 - 1977 Topps BB Vending Box
2 - 1979 Topps BB Rack pack
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
No football, so I "can't" participate
Scott
1 - 1978 cello
1 - 1979 rack pack
2 75 Mini packs
1 79 rack pack
2 78 cello packs
Matt
Tks
Eric
2 each:
79 rack
78 cello
Thanks Dave, this looks like a lot went into this.
-Darren
Does this effort make us a collective of collectors?
(2) 78 Topps Cello Packs
(2) 79 Topps Rack Packs
Thanks,
Scott
1975 Topps Registry Set "Scott's 75 Topps Set"
if available--
2 '79 racks
1 '77 vending box
2 '75 mimi packs
2 '78 cellos
1 '79 vending
And if we win this I WILL be impressed Dave!!
and if anyone drops out of the '77 sealed vending case I would like to be considered--ditto on the '76 vending box
good luck
2 1979 Topps rack packs from a case.
Thank you,
Paul
Thanks for doing this!!!
Topps/OPC Hockey 1966-Present base sets
Collecting Pete Rose Cello Packs
Pete Rose Master set ranking #4(Retired)
<< <i>I have a question
Does this effort make us a collective of collectors? >>
Yes. Wait a minute, NO!!!!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>2 1978 topps cello packs
2 1979 topps rack packs
2 1975 topps mini packs
2 1952 topps high nbr packs
Thanks >>
I see what you did there.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I'd also like to post a request for one of the CpaMike 75 rack packs, too. >>
Hey now, let's not get carried away here. The price of those 1975 rack packs are now $500 each after seeing what you pulled from the last one.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
I know you want to keep the maximum bid "strong but sane" but you should definitely consider getting a little insane with the bid to make this thing actually happen!
Thanks
Great work organizing.
Bid price * 1.195*1.05/144+6= price per rack w/o insurance
12,000 = $110.56 per rack w/o insurance
15,000 = $136.70
18,000 = $162.84
-updated from 17.5% to 19.5% BP
1) The buyers premium at MLI is 19.5%. (not 17.5%)
2) Once the auction ends we'll make sure that the bids are disclosed, and try to share what went into coming up with those figures.
For now, our recommendation is to keep pricing discussions out of this thread (it is probably best kept in PMs between forum members
so that potential competitors do not have the chance of gaining more pricing knowledge from our efforts).
Dave
Jeff
Card Country
Graded stars 1950's-1980
2 1978 cello packs
2 1979 rack packs
Thanks so much for this!
Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of.
Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public.
Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box
If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
Thx again for all of ur hard work
<< <i>70toppsfanatic et al.,
Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of.
Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public.
Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box
If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
Thx again for all of ur hard work >>
Sorry, but it cant work that way. If people could set maximums and the bid prep team bids end up exceeding some of them then we'd potentially have a large auction invoice and not enough money to cover it.
The idea of getting knowledgeable and well respected mmebers on the bid prep team was to trust them. As stated at the top of the thread, if you are participating in this then you have agreed to accept the bid prep team's work on your behalf and are committed at the prices resulting from any of the bids which are successful.
You can be confident that a lot of thought went into coming up with the bids and there was not a win-at-any-price mentality. That being said, we did not come up with our bid figures simply to go through the motions and get everybody's hopes up. We are playing the game to win at levels that a trusted group of our members feel are reasonable in the current market.
Hope that addresses your concern. If not, please PM me.
Dave
<< <i>
<< <i>70toppsfanatic et al.,
Can we put in a maximum price for say a vending box we want? Although that may be more work for u to keep track of.
Do I place it at the end of the want list or PM to you to keep it non-public.
Ex,...2-1967 vending boxes. Max limit of $2100 per box
If the bid is over my max, then it drops to the next member?
I absolutely do NOT want to know even a range of what you will be bidding. So I'll, and we'll, have to come up with a price per box you guys may be bidding. Then adjust our max accordingly.
In full disclosure, I say I don't want even a hint of any bids because I may be bidding on some of the lots. Prob not the ones I'm joining you guys in. although, those involved may help to speculate on what would be a fair price.
Thx again for all of ur hard work >>
Sorry, but it cant work that way. If people could set maximums and the bid prep team bids end up exceeding some of them then we'd potentially have a large auction invoice and not enough money to cover it.
The idea of getting knowledgeable and well respected mmebers on the bid prep team was to trust them. As stated at the top of the thread, if you are participating in this then you have agreed to accept the bid prep team's work on your behalf and are committed at the prices resulting from any of the bids which are successful.
You can be confident that a lot of thought went into coming up with the bids and there was not a win-at-any-price mentality. That being said, we did not come up with our bid figures simply to go through the motions and get everybody's hopes up. We are playing the game to win at levels that a trusted group of our members feel are reasonable in the current market.
Hope that addresses your concern. If not, please PM me. >>
+1
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Tim
My new website www.lowgradegems.com
Tim
2-1978 cello packs
2-1975 mini wax packs
2-1979 rack packs
1-1979 vending box if available
1-1977 vending box if available
thanks again terry
thank you
nick
But in full disclosure I think I should excuse myself from participating in this group bid because I've decided to bid in this auction for my own collection.
So this auction has caught my interest as well as others for this quality unopened material. should be fun to watch.
I hope to win at least one, maybe 2-3 of the lots.
(1) 1979 Topps rack pack
thank you!
lmk, Mark
Collecting Pete Rose Cello Packs
Pete Rose Master set ranking #4(Retired)
<< <i>And there it is, a board member who plans to bid against the group. It was bound to happen. >>
Yep, it's a free market and anyone has a right to bid and not collude against bidding. However, it seems like this is being done out of spite more than a genuine desire to own cases of 1970s cards.
lmk, Mark
I think I have dibs on you