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Interesting news report on Brett Bogus


Many of you may recall - or know from personal experience - Mr. Brett Bogus. He's been mentioned on these boards numerous times. I think one of the times might have even been in a favorable context.

(To jog your memory, he appeared on Pawn Stars not too long ago with some Republic of Texas currency. No transaction was consummated, as his $650,000 asking price was about $640,000 too high.)

Anyway, it seems our friend Mr. Bogus has gotten himself in hot water again. This time he's been charged with a felony - gold fraud.

Of course, good ol' Brett is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Just putting this out there as an FYI.


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  • YonicoYonico Posts: 149
    Relevant last name image
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭

    For those unfamiliar with Mr. Bogus, here's a bit on his background. He's been mentioned on the CU boards plenty over the years. A couple of threads that are self-explanatory ...

    One

    Two

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bogus is as Bogus does.....image Or.. a bogus is a bogus, by any other name would be as phony...Cheers, RickO
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bogus lives in Humble, Texas???? NO WAY! yes way.



    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), [email protected]
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Brett Bogus, from Humble, Texas. The irony continues. image
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • I guess I see this a different way. This appears to be a sad situation for all involved.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since the OP's link to a news article is only 7 months old, maybe someone could link us to something current about the issue.
    Just sayin'. image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.americanlegacycoins.com

  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭


    << <i>... maybe someone could link us to something current about the issue... >>



    Didn't mean to post outdated info. image I only learned of this recently. The latest is that the defendant made bond, and the defense has had the case continued a few times (not uncommon), with the next scheduled appearance being May 1, 2014.

    Bogus criminal case summary at Harris County District Clerk's Office
  • He's got a 3rd degree felony (change from Aug. 2013) and a 1st degree felony just filed a few months ago. He plead guilty Friday to both counts. Pre-sentence investigation ordered before the judge decides sentence. Looks like he got in way too deep this time. Think he'll get more then just a slap on the hand. Maybe some serious time this go around. On top of the criminal, a few people have filed civil suits against him. They tried to fie criminal cases but because he had given them a little of their money back it became a "violation of a contract" . Sentencing in January.
    texancoinlover
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    What a bogus post
  • No Bogus post here. He's headed to jail.
    texancoinlover
  • FYI: Brett Bogus was sentenced to -20- years in Texas State Prison on 8/28/2015. He plead guilty, and with this being his 3rd felony conviction the judge was not too happy with him. He plead to 1st degree theft amounting to around a million dollars.
    texancoinlover
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I drove through Humble once.
  • TURBOTURBO Posts: 494 ✭✭✭
    What season of Pawn stars did he appear on?
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    He should change his name to Brett Convict.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Topo:



    Your comment He should change his name to Brett Convict. made me image
    Mark


  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad to see he got a substantial sentence.... And Texas prisons are definitely a tad

    rougher than the country clubs in California....Cheers, RickO
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's gotta be a record for a coin dealer sentence. Marty Haber and Tom Noe didn't get anywhere near that amount. Haber got 63 months for defrauding collectors for around $1 MILL. Renato Ruiz of El Paso Coin scammed people in the 1970's and fled the country from what I read. Did he ever get caught?
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    perhaps once hes been in the pen for a while he will change his name to ben.... dover.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy had a bad track record many years before this...bouncing 5-figure checks with dealers. As I recall Fred Weinberg was a victim to the tune of over $50K but he got his money back eventually.

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Bogus got me with a bad check for well over $50K;

    it took awhile, and a good local Texas lawyer, but I got

    back all my money, and a few thousand dollars in

    lawyer's fees.



    Many years ago, when I didn't know the rules for

    posting bad things about people, I actually got a

    warning from the moderator at the time, and my

    post was removed, I believe.



    I had, and still have, NOTHING good to say about

    him.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    that sucks when websites hinder ones freedom of speech for the sake of protecting a guilty party. what website removed a post warning others of a thief ?
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread is turning mean. Let's all consider Brett has and is paying a hefty enough of a fine on his life that now doesn't require us to pile on.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how bogus was that to go get arrested like that.
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    im not "piling on" anyone, im merely commenting on the topic. how many people wouldn't exchange several years of their life for millions of dollars that you get to keep ? how many people work their entire life, and don't see a million dollars ? "being mean" LOL not everyone will share your sym pathetic viewpoint for a criminal sorry but that's how it is
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When his family came over from Itely in the 1800's the family name was Fugazi. They couldn't spell it right, so it got translated.
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ebaybuyer
    im not "piling on" anyone, im merely commenting on the topic. how many people wouldn't exchange several years of their life for millions of dollars that you get to keep ? how many people work their entire life, and don't see a million dollars ? "being mean" LOL not everyone will share your sym pathetic viewpoint for a criminal sorry but that's how it is


    Well, when the grammar police throw you into grammar prison I'll continue to preach compassion and empathy.
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He looks fairly old; I don't think he will fair very well in prison.
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    having bad grammar isn't illegal, stealing from people is. perhaps you should go visit bogus, bake him a cake with a file inside. I don't have sympathy empathy or compassion for criminals. perhaps for the victims of the criminals, but the criminals themselves, nope.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • Honestly it would have been better to put him on probation for say 4 counts and have him stay on probation the rest of his life. I say this as now he will not get the actual help he needs to figure out what made him do what he did, he will now be a cost burden to tax payers and will not be able to be productive in a way that would have him pay back those he wronged if even a little. Prison is not the place for non-violent crimes as it will not help him at all and will not help those that were and are his victims. Not only is he in prison but if he has a family they are all with him in a way. The United States has the highest rates of incarceration of any developed country and that is a problem. I appreciate that he actually stated his guilt as most will just plead not guilty and take a plea deal.

    Sorry for the preaching but I helped my wife in finding information for a paper she had to do while getting he masters and it really opened my eyes to some well bad issues that most do not see.
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ebaybuyer
    having bad grammar isn't illegal, stealing from people is. perhaps you should go visit bogus, bake him a cake with a file inside. I don't have sympathy empathy or compassion for criminals. perhaps for the victims of the criminals, but the criminals themselves, nope.


    I love the way you make that gigantic leap from my sentiment of supporting the stringent sentence he is facing yet at the same time not condoning the insults, ...all the way to insinuating loving the bad guy at the expense of his victims.

    You are not only a curious little fellow but cute as a button when you present your strawman argument.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,883 ✭✭✭✭
    image
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    I suggest you re-read my responses, or better yet get someone to read them to you, as you obviously have a reading comprehension disability
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion, parole would be a disaster.



    Based on three previous convictions, and many

    numerous other problems he's caused,

    he would love to be out and able to do

    the same.



    And, I am fairly certain he would not be 'clean'

    on parole - and I'd bet bucks that he would

    con/rip off someone else, or numerous people.



    He's pathological, imo - and parole would not

    cause him to cease and desist his ways - he'd

    just be more careful.



    As a dealer, I've had contact with him at numerous

    coin shows, social situations, and intense interaction

    with him as I tried (and succeeded) in getting my

    funds back from a bounced check he gave me.



    Jail costs money, I understand - but he is the PERFECT

    person to spend incarceration time for white collar crime.



    I just can't think of, or are aware of, a more suitable crook

    to be placed behind bars for along time.



    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ebaybuyer
    im not "piling on" anyone, im merely commenting on the topic. how many people wouldn't exchange several years of their life for millions of dollars that you get to keep ? how many people work their entire life, and don't see a million dollars ? "being mean" LOL not everyone will share your sym pathetic viewpoint for a criminal sorry but that's how it is



    The thought is appealing but I would pass.

    on second thought I would do 90 days for a million, but only if I got a 3 for 1. was made trustee and got to sleep in a 1 room cell.


    There was a movie where a guy offered 5 million for sex one night with some mans wife ( the figure may be wrong) and was turned down. I don't have that high of standards I guess
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    well, according to some, we shouldn't "pile on" him, perhaps we should tell him to write "im sorry" on the chalk board 100 times and that should be sufficient punishment. personally I believe if you do the crime, you should do the time.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: AUandAG
    Bogus lives in Humble, Texas???? NO WAY! yes way.



    bobimage


    Not to take away from the irony, but it's actually pronounced 'umble' by the locals... my wife has family there.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ebaybuyer

    well, according to some, we shouldn't "pile on" him, perhaps we should tell him to write "im sorry" on the chalk board 100 times and that should be sufficient punishment. personally I believe if you do the crime, you should do the time.




    There you go, half-cocked again. NO one suggested he shouldn't "do the time."



    That is so obvious now, makes me think you're being obtuse just to troll this thread a little longer.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this some kind of media joke? This guy is for real? How does he get people give him money then with that name.....unbelievable.

    Yes jail here in Texas wb really bad for him unless he is teaching a class on fraud. As I understand its not exactly club med here.....in jail.
    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,856 ✭✭✭
    Here's Brett Bogus:

    The Meltdown with Brett Bogus (Jan. 23, 2014)

    Bogus also stole coins from Ed Lee. Ed was kind enough to give this guy a job after he lost his job at Blanchard after getting arrested for something I don't know what. Ed paid for him to move up north and then he cheated Ed out of thousands plus stole his mailing list.




  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    the troll is obviously you, grow up and get a hobby, perhaps coin collecting.. or campaigning for the release of convicts
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • Originally posted by: FredWeinberg

    In my opinion, parole would be a disaster.



    Based on three previous convictions, and many

    numerous other problems he's caused,

    he would love to be out and able to do

    the same.



    And, I am fairly certain he would not be 'clean'

    on parole - and I'd bet bucks that he would

    con/rip off someone else, or numerous people.



    He's pathological, imo - and parole would not

    cause him to cease and desist his ways - he'd

    just be more careful.



    As a dealer, I've had contact with him at numerous

    coin shows, social situations, and intense interaction

    with him as I tried (and succeeded) in getting my

    funds back from a bounced check he gave me.



    Jail costs money, I understand - but he is the PERFECT

    person to spend incarceration time for white collar crime.



    I just can't think of, or are aware of, a more suitable crook

    to be placed behind bars for a long time.







    Fred I understand these feelings but if he was on probation he could get proper mental treatment. Also being on probation can and is much more like being on house arrest as they can put a GPS bracelet on him he can not take off, P&P can control all his money only giving him enough to survive on. He could then be made to work to pay those back he wronged along with doing community service. I can tell you that sometimes it is worse being on probation than it is being in jail. I had an employee that was on probation and could not do anything without permission from P&P. He had to give a schedule to his agent a week ahead of time for approval. His GPS thing would tell if he even stepped out side his door 10ft, he would get auto called up to 5 times a day and had to answer the phone and answer questions, could not use a computer (computer fraud), could not have a smart phone only one of the emergency phones that make outgoing calls with no other features. Finally if he violated his rules he would be put in jail for 90 days as punishment. Most people do not know these things if they have not dealt with it. He had 8 years of probation and after about 10 months he revoked himself as he said prison was better any day than being on probation. When in prison you have no responsibilities, I would prefer to have people actually pay for their crime instead of going to prison where they do not have to pay any serious amount of monetary compensation. At 2 cents an hour it will take a long time for the victims to recoup their funds that were stolen as the State will collect its' money first. Just my opinion from my experience.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2019 7:59PM

    March 2019 UPDATE:

    In case anyone is interested, Mr. Bogus was denied parole in January. The reason given for denial was: "THE RECORD INDICATES THAT THE OFFENDER HAS REPEATEDLY COMMITTED CRIMINAL EPISODES THAT INDICATE A PREDISPOSITION TO COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTS UPON RELEASE." Link here

    His sentence runs through 2035, but he currently has a projected release date of September, 2023, unless he is paroled before that time.
    Texas Dept of Criminal Justice Offender Information - Brett David Bogus

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 11, 2019 3:31AM

    I was a parole officer until retired and I can tell you I had many parolees on my caseload over the years on interstate compact transfers from Texas because it is one tough state to be a criminal and they wanted to get as far from there as possible. I use to say if I was going to rob a bank it would not be in Texas.

  • batumibatumi Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭

    I recall about twenty-five years ago Bogus was hyping Liberty double eagles. He had a complete date/m/m set the finest known at that time. Idk if it belonged to him or someone else perhaps Blanchard. maybe? Really sad to see so many good people in this hobby get betrayed. I had heard of others being thrown under the bus dealing with an outfit named Goldenwest numismatics years ago, but nothing for a long time. Perhaps the perp has moved onto final Judgement.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad to hear he is still incarcerated....Nothing but a nasty crook and would likely do the same if released. I hate thieves, and when I was in business, I caught several...(Company employees stealing)...All were terminated/prosecuted. Cheers, RickO

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They can't lock him up for life. He will be back.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a shameful way. I am sad for the entire hobby, due to this kind of ______ .( existence and behavior )
    Sounds as if he is the type who needs asylum for the deranged. Build that wall. Put him on the other side. It disgraces , to act in such a manner.

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These guys are cockroaches. One leaves another pops up.

    I was just told about a grandmom who lost $1.2 million to a telemarketer. Very sad story. Fortunately, she has bit bull help and may see some of her money back. But its made her ill.

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