WARNING.... Bad "Proof" Prospector.

SilverBaron

Where else but fleabay ....


1984 of course.




Keep on Stack'n !!
(Just NOT these!)

ricko

I assume you take exception to the term 'proof'...otherwise it is just bullion ... Cheers, RickO

carew4me

<< <i>I assume you take exception to the term 'proof'...otherwise it is just bullion ... Cheers, RickO >>



fake bullion. wrong finish for prospectors.
made in china

ricko

Thanks, did not pick up on that....Cheers, RickO

lcoopie

good post

rawteam1

Just to reiterate what I'm sure has been reported here many times...
There are proof engelhard 1oz silver prospectors...

piecesofme

There are proof engelhard 1oz silver prospectors

What's the tell tale difference? The china version looks the same as the one being offered by the 70k+ feedback eBayer.
Surely an eBayer with that kind of selling experience in silver such as them would not knowingly sell a chinese fake, would they?

OnlyGoldIsMoney

<< <i>There are proof engelhard 1oz silver prospectors

What's the tell tale difference? The china version looks the same as the one being offered by the 70k+ feedback eBayer.
Surely an eBayer with that kind of selling experience in silver such as them would not knowingly sell a chinese fake, would they? >>



Its best to learn the characteristics of the 1984 fakes. One of the tell tale signs can be seen of the reverse (broken circle).

I wrote to the seller telling him it is a fake. He has not responded - perhaps he is not checking his messages over the weekend. I have purchased from the seller before. Its odd to me the seller is not aware of these obvious fakes.

rawteam1 is precisely right. Genuine Engelhard proof prospectors do exist. They are merely uncommon.

carew4me

<< <i>Just to reiterate what I'm sure has been reported here many times...
There are proof engelhard 1oz silver prospectors... >>



yes there are proof prospectors. none were issued in 1984. The Big E reverse was used in 1982 and 1983 , 1000 mintage each.

piecesofme

Its best to learn the characteristics of the 1984 fakes. One of the tell tale signs can be seen of the reverse (broken circle).

The 999's look very funky too, along with the "bull" symbol too. I don't usually buy these but this is good info. in case I come across some for what I think is a good price.
Thanks to those who are willing to share their knowledge and not keep it guarded like a 4 of a kind card hand and simply just say "fake", but don't provide any info.

I know, I heard it before. We shouldn't talk publicly about what the things to look for are because the counterfeiters are wtahcing and taking notes. That's a good defense, but it only goes so far in my book. If we continue to share info., then that forces the hand of the counterfeiter to change. Not talking about it allows them to keep selling what they've already made as counterfeit. jmho.

rawteam1

No thumb in pan...
No water ripples left of pan...

Edit to add one should try to see if they can identify the differences themselves, as it will sharpen your skills...

rawteam1

<< <i>

<< <i>Just to reiterate what I'm sure has been reported here many times...
There are proof engelhard 1oz silver prospectors... >>



yes there are proof prospectors. none were issued in 1984. The Big E reverse was used in 1982 and 1983 , 1000 mintage each. >>


I have a 1986 proof also...

OnlyGoldIsMoney

My 1986 Proof. Compare obverse details to the ebay fake.

OnlyGoldIsMoney

Seller pulled the auction:

"Hi, I am going to pull it off and test it."

Hopefully he did not purchase too many of the fakes.