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UPDATE- 2014 ATB Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated - Mintage 65,000 each?!

carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭
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Mint rep told me that mintage for 2014 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins would be 65,000 each.
If true, that is a big increase. 2012 prices should see an uptick.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that mintage limit for the bullion coins or the P mintmarked collector coins or both?

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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    thats more than double any P mint so far.
    the last few years have been between 40k-60k ea combined for the P mints and the bullion.
    maybe thats what she was talking about- 40k for bullion and 25k for P
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it possible these higher mintage limits may discourage investors from buying the 2014 issues resulting in even lower sales than 2013?

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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    Im sure they got a lot of subscriptions with the 10% off. they sold almost 11k bullion to the AP's on the first day.
    Ive been looking for posted mintage limits for a few weeks but haven't found anything yet.
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭
    She was clear it was for P version only and that they did not have info for bullion mintage.
    I think they had a huge surge in subscriptions due to the %10 off and no limit.
    Dealers are loading up due to strong lineup with images of Hawaii prices dancing in their heads.
    The Mint is cranking up the press in response.

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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    thats extremely high, the highest sales to date is the 2010's at 27k
    they had a 35k mintage for the 2011's but didn't sell over 25k.
    I have been only buying the bullion version up till this point but set up a sub for the 2014's with the 10% off putting them close to the bullion in price.
    I'll wait to see the announced mintage and the first week sales to decide if I'll keep them.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>thats extremely high, the highest sales to date is the 2010's at 27k
    they had a 35k mintage for the 2011's but didn't sell over 25k. >>


    Good information. Raising the mintage limit may actually depress sales among speculators and investors. Collectors will continue to buy them no matter what the mintage is.

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,655 ✭✭✭
    I think its the $139 price tag driving these. I reemember when they were $279. Looking at only a $8 premium per ounce for the P ATBs. ASE premiums normally run around $2.5.
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭
    Uncirculated Mintage published The maximum mintage for this coin is 25,000 units.
    That is good news, 25,000 is on the low side comparable to 2012.


    The bullion is currently @ 15,000 sold

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,655 ✭✭✭
    These could sell out by subscriptions only. We shall see. $154 vs. $139 (10% discount for subscriptions)
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  • mikliamiklia Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭
    add to the 25k mintage the free shipping (if buying multiples) and no fee for cc, and this starts to turn into a pretty interesting offer. thanks for the heads up on it.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thanks for pointing out the subscription discount
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the 2012 "P" mints except El Yunque have mintages under 15K. Chaco and Denali are under 14K. I don't see much premium price potential for the 2014 "P" coins if the mintages are in the 25K range.

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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    subscriptions went to on hold today.
    ------5 units backordered. Expected to ship on 04/19/2014.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>subscriptions went to on hold today.
    ------5 units backordered. Expected to ship on 04/19/2014. >>


    Does this mean that the number of subscriptions has now reached 25,000? If so, hopefully they won't raise the mintage limit.

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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    I think it is just because they haven't been released yet.
    It will probably change after Monday when they are released.
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Agreed. They havent been added for the "for sale" list, im guessing the backorder is shown to account for the preorder. just my guess though.
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  • freechancefreechance Posts: 380 ✭✭
    they now say "instock and reserved"
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe the Mint is close to a sell out for this puck ... last report that I saw, indicated 22,000+ out of a possible 25,000 sold.
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  • JimDepotJimDepot Posts: 958 ✭✭
    Received mine yesterday, the best one so far.
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  • GBurger717GBurger717 Posts: 575
    I got mine via subscription over a week ago. I kept them sealed in mint shipping incase the premium rises so I can sell it as 1st strike eligible. I hope these sell out and sell out quick!
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Received mine yesterday, the best one so far. >>



    Likewise...but it took a "crowbar" to remove the coin from the presentation caseimage These suckers are in there tight.
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