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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    What's the story? Are the new PSA pack grading guidelines getting people on edge?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $300 and counting for a 1981 wax pack!!! That seller is our own Leathtech, too!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it normal for two bidders to take an item like this from $42.57 to $300?

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it normal for two bidders to take an item like this from $42.57 to $300? >>



    For most items no, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to unopened these days!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Is it normal for two bidders to take an item like this from $42.57 to $300? >>



    For most items no, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to unopened these days! >>




    Yeah I get that. I should have been more clear. In this space is it normal is what I was getting at. I am getting the feeling that yes it is.


    This is the most explosive part of the market right now and it is fun to watch.


    Congratulations to those that own lots of this stuff.





  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    link
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    For a 1981? Wow
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone interested in a PSA 9 1979 baseball wax pack, please feel free to PM me! image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>



    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>


    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image >>


    I'll make some exceptions ... LOL
    Damn, we have to get together soon for a few cold ones!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • totallyraddtotallyradd Posts: 954 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone interested in a PSA 9 1979 baseball wax pack, please feel free to PM me! image >>



    I'd like to get one since that was the year I was born, but will probably just have to settle for never getting one based on the current unopened boom. Prolly shoulda jumped on this two years ago and not one year ago.
  • CrazylegsCrazylegs Posts: 406 ✭✭✭
    I agree something is not right here.
    If there was ever an example of someone being bid up to
    their max, this is it.
    Take out 472's 11 bids after 479's MONSTER MAX BID and
    this pack tops out 1 bid over $42.57.
    +1 for seller never gets paid.
    Craig AKA "Crazylegs"
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    "I'd like to get one since that was the year I was born, but will probably just have to settle for never getting one..."
    -----

    Your prayers have been answered. If you have 7 bucks plus postage, you're in business...


    1981 Topps Wax Pack

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree something is not right here.
    If there was ever an example of someone being bid up to
    their max, this is it.
    Take out 472's 11 bids after 479's MONSTER MAX BID and
    this pack tops out 1 bid over $42.57.
    +1 for seller never gets paid. >>



    That's really not how it works. If those two people didn't bid, others may have bid in their place.

    $300 does seem very high, but I don't see any other PSA 9s on ebay.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    1 of only 2, none higher with no immediate future possibilities due to new PSA grading standards, and a couple guys trying to build a graded Registry set.

    there ya go.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>



    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image >>


    +1, looks like there are quite a few on the Heritage thread as well.
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    What are the new pack grading changes? I've not kept up-to-date on them. Seems like someone mentioned they are only grading wax if the gum is stuck to the card/wrapper. Is this correct?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What are the new pack grading changes? I've not kept up-to-date on them. Seems like someone mentioned they are only grading wax if the gum is stuck to the card/wrapper. Is this correct? >>



    Hey David, you summed it up big picture. Here is a link to the thread Tim started which goes into more detail.

    PSA's new wax pack grading policy
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Wonder how many 1981 Packs will end up in a hot car hoping the gum NOW sticks to the wrapper
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wonder how many 1981 Packs will end up in a hot car hoping the gum NOW sticks to the wrapper >>



    My new custom ordered microwave has a setting for packs. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i was thinking of getting a campsite and pan frying under the stars. could be a religious experience.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i was thinking of getting a campsite and pan frying under the stars. could be a religious experience. >>



    1981 Smores!
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I know, I could not believe what the 84 Topps pack was going for.
  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭
    I have a new retirement plan. Come up with an easy way to get the gum to stick inside packs and run those annoying ads you see on a lot of websites:

    "This one simple trick gets gum to stick inside the packs for grading."

    I'll be rich.
    Always buying 1971 OPC Baseball packs.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That price is very legitimate and the guy who is probably going to win it hasn't even bid yet.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • lseeconlseecon Posts: 318 ✭✭
    Same high bidder on all the sellers graded packs. The 1989 pack is more than a case will cost you.

    Some shenanigans going on?

    The bidding and amounts for worthless packs (ie 1989, 1987 and 1990) seem suspect.

    Billionaires too lazy to send in worthless packs and just pay the grading fees?
    Perhaps

  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>



    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image >>



    Except for Chris Everett
    image


  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    So the key here is to put your boxes in a freezer, then room temp, then the oven and keep doing the process over and over until the gum sticks?
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>



    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image >>



    Except for Chris Everett >>



    Take that back before I...

    image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great.
    Now Fritsch is going to ask $11,000.00 for his 1981 topps boxes!!
    Ughh
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great.
    Now Fritsch is going to ask $11,000.00 for his 1981 topps boxes!!
    Ughh >>



    LOL, if there were 36 PSA 9s of this pack (instead of 2), it would be nowhere near $300...more like $30 (if that).


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thats not important to Fritsch
    it's now 11,000.00
  • purduepetepurduepete Posts: 791 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Man, the seller is a GREAT guy ... but no way he gets paid for this pack. >>



    Damn right he's a GREAT guy. All Boilermakers are GREAT guys. image >>



    +1

    Tom

    Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
  • soundgardsoundgard Posts: 650 ✭
    $300 for a 3 dollar pack.

    lol
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great, Now it is a $15,000.00 box.
    Look out 1986-87 Fleer BK!! 1981 topps is coming up.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The power of the set registry! The same reason a Mint 9 75 mini Claudell Washington card would command 2K.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • CrazylegsCrazylegs Posts: 406 ✭✭✭
    If this ends up selling I am busting my case of 81's.

    I know I can find at least 4 boxes worth, out of the 20 boxes, where the
    gum is stuck to the card and not broken. If I can't I'll experiment with
    a few 81 or 87 or 88 packs until they stick!

    I truly hope the seller gets these sales. He is one smart cookie, to send in
    what most consider junk wax, and realize these prices.

    There have only been 18 packs total graded of 81's. Why? Probably because
    most people, up to this point, didn't see any real value in grading a $3 pack.
    Don't believe for a second that these boxes/cases are anything like pre 80
    product. Every show you go to you can still find boxes of 81, 82, 83, 84, 85...

    While the Registry is a powerful drug, buying any post 80 pack at these prices
    is just crazy. No offense meant towards the seller, (Hell I hope they do sell at these
    prices I have a basement full of this stuff lol), he is just the first person smart enough to
    go after these buyers.

    With 11% of the only 28 graded packs receiving a 9 I wouldn't even hazard a guess at
    the HUGE number, even with the new grading guidelines, that you will see in what? 5 years!

    Most collectors aren't even on the unopened bandwagon yet. Not counting this board of course!

    Comparing this to a 75 Claudell Washington Mini, with 140 graded with only one 9 with none
    higher, isn't a fair comparison where the registry is concerned. How many cases and boxes of
    81's are still out there. How many Mint 75's of Claudell are out there with his print & centering
    issues.

    If any of these post 80 packs was deserving of a nice markup it might be the 1983 Topps.
    62 total graded packs with only one 9. Guess it's time for everyone to start sending in those
    80's packs!

    Again best of luck with the sales.

    Craig AKA "Crazylegs"
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Craig, if you submit a bunch of 81 wax packs to PSA, you will kill the golden goose--as soon as there are a few more 81 PSA 9 packs, the value will plummet. The only reason this pack sold for $400 is because there are only two in existence. If there were 10, it would have sold for $40. That was my point about the registry--the pop report greatly inflates value based on the number of examples available. Why else would anyone pay 2K for a Caludell Washington card no matter how difficult it is to find in mint condition? Or any other low poip common card for that matter? I think with wax packs we may also be witnessing the effect of the new grading policy whereby PSA will no longer grade any wax pack in which the gum is loose or broken. As a collector, I shudder to think of people putting their packs in microwaves or out in the blazing sun just to melt the gum to the top card for grading, but I'm sure there will be people attempting that, if they haven't already. Definitely makes one less inclined to crack open a slabbed pack with a recent cert number to rip, as those packs will quite possibly have some damage to the cards caused by the gum.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • CrazylegsCrazylegs Posts: 406 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Craig, if you submit a bunch of 81 wax packs to PSA, you will kill the golden goose--as soon as there are a few more 81 PSA 9 packs, the value will plummet. The only reason this pack sold for $400 is because there are only two in existence. If there were 10, it would have sold for $40. >>



    Very true.

    Wish I had thought of it first.

    The buyer is going to be in for a rude awakening!
    Craig AKA "Crazylegs"
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well a psa 10 pack might sell for the same next time
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