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David Hall Now on Front Page of MSN.com Regarding Saddle Ridge Gold Hoard

numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

Just happened to open a browser and there was David Hall staring at me. This gold hoard is getting a lot of attention in the media. The writer is from the Associated Press.

Link to article.

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And if you read Rogers' first paragraph in the AP article, you can be sure that someone is extremely unhappy about the fact that Rogers claimed that a certain theory "has gained a lot of traction". image Give it a rest already. This issue has been advanced here to the level of trolling IMHO.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    There sure are a lot of world coin books in that room.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Knowledge is power. But for some sloppy journalists "A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing". EOR.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.americanlegacycoins.com

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,211 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some "journalists" never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like RWB may have another research project at NARA! It would be very excited to hear what he could find there, if anything.



    << <i>We have no information linking those coins to any thefts at any United States Mint facility. Surviving agency records from the San Francisco Mint have been retired to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), under Record Group 104. Access to the records is under NARA’s jurisdiction: http://www.archives.gov/ >>

  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where I live there is still a lot of active gold mining. In my own neighborhood a lady who had mined gold for years lost her full mental capacities and was moved into an assisted living home. When her house was being cleaned a box containing a substantial number of gold nuggets she had squirreled away for years was found hidden in her garage. One might

    be surprised how many people even today "in the mining industry" hide their gold.


    A more instructive way of identifying the original owner of the Saddle Ridge Hoard would be to take the San Francisco Mint up on its implied offer to get the records out of the archived storage and determine who was exchanging their gold dust and nuggets on a regular basis for the time period corresponding to the found coins. From the Mint's official

    statement it does not sound like anyone has even attempted to do that yet.


    Another avenue to research would be to see if there were gold miners in the area where the hoard was found who lost their mental capacities for the time period associated with the latest of the coins. Hospital and nursing home records could be matched to known miners in the area for that time period. If I recall correctly a lot of mind damaging chemicals

    such as arsenic and mercury were used commonly in the "mining industry" by gold miners during that period. (Whoever buried the Saddle Ridge Hoard was at least at some point worried that they might need help relocating it and thus marked the area with the can that grew into the tree and made sure there was a marker ten paces away from where the

    gold was buried.)


    There is equally good reason to believe that the person burying the coins became mentally incapacitated to the point that they were not even able to share the information about where the coins were located and/or likely did not trust their care givers as many in assisted living and nursing homes mistrust those charged with their care due to

    paranoia even today.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never let facts get in the way of a good mystery....image Cheers, RickO
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,211 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CNN story quotes U.S. Mint saying coins not theirs

    We will now resume the "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" portion of our program.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And if you read Rogers' first paragraph in the AP article, you can be sure that someone is extremely unhappy about the fact that Rogers claimed that a certain theory "has gained a lot of traction". image Give it a rest already. This issue has been advanced here to the level of trolling IMHO. >>



    Trolling? More like a feeding frenzy.

    As an established expert on Forum decorum, my opinion of the trolling is "Their attention will be focused on something else in two weeks" . . . image

    In the end, a media bonanza for the Hoard.

    Do you think that Kagins planted the story of the theft to spike interest after first making a deal with the relevant government agencies?

    Or was it the Illuminati knowing there'll always be a willing troll out there somewhere? . . image . . image

    This is the most dramatic coin story to hit the public in decades. In this light, Amazon looks like a brilliant move. And, LOL, look at what it does for Kagins mailing list . . image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And if you read Rogers' first paragraph in the AP article, you can be sure that someone is extremely unhappy about the fact that Rogers claimed that a certain theory "has gained a lot of traction". image Give it a rest already. This issue has been advanced here to the level of trolling IMHO. >>



    Trolling? More like a feeding frenzy.

    As an established expert on Forum decorum, my opinion of the trolling is "Their attention will be focused on something else in two weeks" . . . image

    In the end, a media bonanza for the Hoard.

    Do you think that Kagins planted the story of the theft to spike interest after first making a deal with the relevant government agencies?

    Or was it the Illuminati knowing there'll always be a willing troll out there somewhere? . . image . . image

    This is the most dramatic coin story to hit the public in decades. In this light, Amazon looks like a brilliant move. And, LOL, look at what it does for Kagins mailing list . . image >>





    I guess that is the "glass half full" viewpoint. Of course as noted on another thread there could be negative repercussions as well:


    "At this point the government has expressed no interest in holding up the sales. However, since perception trumps reality the cloud that these stories are creating could result in issues for the sellers and may put a pale on the sale. This "controversy" may force the sellers to promote their offering of a buy back guarantee in the event at some later date the

    coins are determined to be stolen property. I assume that this is something Kagins and Amazon can insure against though the cost of the premium can be expected to either reduce profits or add to the cost of the coins. "
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭✭
    I think everyone's just a little jealous...

    All of the false claims and absurd theories are coming from people that want a slice of pie.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,390 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think everyone's just a little jealous...

    All of the false claims and absurd theories are coming from people that want a slice of pie. >>

    and they'll keep coming image
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,211 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think everyone's just a little jealous...

    All of the false claims and absurd theories are coming from people that want a slice of pie. >>



    As in, if they can't have it, they don't want the finders to have it either?
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At this point I haven't seen much beyond trolling the public with a shameful story of government misfeasance and personal malfeasance.

    And BURIED TREASURE ! What kid, what boy wouldn't....? Our response is limbic

    History as declared by a local waterfront sage. He live on a boat? Was he homeless? Selling fish to a local reporter?

    This caper, along with government corruption and alien interference, will play out on the front pages of the National Enquirer for months as the uproar increases. It's then revealed that Kanye bought the entire deal as a gift for Kim because her ass got bigger. (?).

    Snipers from this Forum were consulted for the trivial setting up of one blast of data for 1400 directed emails and credit card numbers within the first few gazilli-seconds

    All great for the hobby. People magazine has better market penetration for a broader demographic of potential coin buyers than the NYT or WSJ. . . image

    Pay attention, Forum hucksters of cynicism and doom who've cumulatively figured every angle, before you go off. Ask yourself if anyone could have figured every angle.

    You guys KNOW that some part of any plan has unforeseen loopholes. ANY plan.

    My take on this?

    Coins were planted there a century ago by the Iluminatti, who found a troll here on the Forum as an unwitting front man. Authentic history and documents. A guise to launder their earlier profits at a later time. They have caches of treasure on all seven continents. In Europe, some have been untouched for seven hundred years.

    I heard and read it on major news platform. The truth and transparency of content on the Internet, that intersection of knowledge and wisdom, has an occasional hysteric and tragicomic zeitgeist of relish or sanctimonious sympathy.

    The Forum owes itself plaudits, kudos and other forms of electronic memorialization for making its mark in the larger world. I think it hit the NY Times. If not, the NY Post may have it under "Weird News". Remember to be proud. It all started here. . . image . . image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780
    "It's then revealed that Kanye bought the entire deal as a gift for Kim because her ass got bigger. (?)."

    ROTFL! image

    I think she was shortchanged. image

    Eric

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