Off-Center Grading Question - Jefferson Nickel

BigDowgie

After finding this coin, it raised a couple questions about grading requirements. I know all denominations have off-center examples, but I'll use this Jefferson Nickel for discussion purposes. 1981-P Jefferson are tough with full steps and this one will never be graded as such! So here are my questions:

1) How far off-center or showing any signs of being off-center before PCGS turns it into a Mint Error versus a regular business strike?
2) This particular coin has a perfectly aligned reverse with the off-center obverse. With misaligned dies, how many coins are struck this way before the dies are corrected?

Rampage

Your coin is a mis-aligned die, not an off center strike. It's a nice example, but it is not worth the grading fees (either mint error or modern fees) to have it graded. This is my opinion.

BigDowgie

Rampage you missed answering both of my questions! I was not asking what I should do with this particular coin. I have two separate questions I wanted to learn what other folks know about the topics.

lostincoins

1. I believe 3% both sides
2. as many are made before being caught by inspector or qc

ctf_error_coins

That is a misaligned (MAD) error

Broadstruck

<< <i>That is a misaligned (MAD) error and not off center. >>

BigDowgie

Troops, I understand this is a misaligned die! I'm asking a couple questions in general and not about this particular coin. Ignore the pictures and read the questions. I pictured the coin that sparked the questions.

Thanks

DIMEMAN

I think he is asking how far off centered or how misalienged can a coin be and still be graded as a regular coin.

I would think if it is noticeable at all they (PCGS) would call it not regular.

JMHO

ricko

I agree with lostincoins response.... Cheers, RickO

JeffersonFrog

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GrumpyEd

Unless submitted for the error service wouldn't they ignore it and only grade the coin even if it was more extreme than this?

BigDowgie

JeffersonFrog,
What grading service and what did it grade? Were the pictures taken before submitted or after you removed it from the holder?

ModCrewman

I've always believed it's only relevant if part of the devices is missing. Some of the letters off the edge, etc.

JeffersonFrog

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FredWeinberg

To be off center, some design elements
must be missing.

Even if there is a decent 'blank' area, if nothing
is missing from the coin's design, it's either a
Broadstrike, or an Uncentered Broadstrike.

As far as your original question of how many
coins might have struck a mis-aligned die coin,
that's impossible to answer.

Some are very common, and some are rare;
it just depends on when the die became mis-aligned,
and when the Press Operator caught it......the
likely answer is, in most cases, "Plenty".

JeffersonFrog

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ctf_error_coins

<< <i>To be off center, some design elements must be missing

Just curious, on my 1998, do the "missing" tops of the letters ERT in LIBERTY constitute missing elements? >>



No, That's metal flow.
Your coin is broadstruck.

JeffersonFrog

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