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PCGS Full Brockage Error on a Wheat Cent

ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have been imaging some coins and I think this one is cool ......

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    why do some of these have a design underneath and others don't?

    ie, sometimes you can see lincoln or the memorial and sometimes you can't.
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    DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    I like that!!
    Dan
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice one!
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    why do some of these have a design underneath and others don't?

    ie, sometimes you can see lincoln or the memorial and sometimes you can't.
    . >>



    It's just mild ghosting from being stuck by the underlying obverse die capped with a adhered cent.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    why do some of these have a design underneath and others don't?

    ie, sometimes you can see lincoln or the memorial and sometimes you can't.
    . >>



    As the cap gets pounded thinner and thinner under repeated blows, the design of the die under the cap starts to emerge as a "ghost image."
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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What are these worth generally?
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i just want to be thorough on my point because i will commit it to memory.

    so if there is coin with brockage with no underlying design elements, that means it is just an eds.

    part 2:

    why doesn't the holder state, "struck through die cap"

    struck-through die cap and brockage aren't the same thing are they?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    i just want to be thorough on my point because i will commit it to memory.

    so if there is coin with brockage with no underlying design elements, that means it is just an eds.

    part 2:

    why doesn't the holder state, "struck through die cap"

    struck-through die cap and brockage aren't the same thing are they?
    . >>



    If part of the design is still visible, it is a brockage. If the design is pounded away, it is a capped die strike. The brockage is more desireable.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>.
    i just want to be thorough on my point because i will commit it to memory.

    so if there is coin with brockage with no underlying design elements, that means it is just an eds.

    part 2:

    why doesn't the holder state, "struck through die cap"

    struck-through die cap and brockage aren't the same thing are they?
    . >>



    If part of the design is still visible, it is a brockage. If the design is pounded away, it is a capped die strike. The brockage is more desireable. >>



    so then a collection of emission sequence struck through die cap coins are possible as the design is spread further and further out on each subsequent coin where the first is brockage and the last struck through die cap?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>.
    i just want to be thorough on my point because i will commit it to memory.

    so if there is coin with brockage with no underlying design elements, that means it is just an eds.

    part 2:

    why doesn't the holder state, "struck through die cap"

    struck-through die cap and brockage aren't the same thing are they?
    . >>



    If part of the design is still visible, it is a brockage. If the design is pounded away, it is a capped die strike. The brockage is more desireable. >>



    so then a collection of emission sequence struck through die cap coins are possible as the design is spread further and further out on each subsequent coin where the first is brockage and the last struck through die cap?
    . >>



    Yes there's early and late capped die stages as the more ghosting you see the later the strike.

    Below is a image of the culprit a die cap which with repeated blows against planchets feed stretches as the side walls mushroom up.

    This example barley shows any trace of the memorial reverse once received from the reverse die and shows how the ghosting of the obverse die occurs.

    image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool error cent..... although I am constantly looking, I have never found any of these cent errors in change - other than a blank planchet. Cheers, RickO
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cool error cent..... although I am constantly looking, I have never found any of these cent errors in change - other than a blank planchet. Cheers, RickO >>



    The possibility of finding this type of error coin in change is close to Zero.

    Almost ALL major error coins are bought and not found. Yes someone has to find them, (most are already found), but your chances are extremely slim.

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