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FYI Grading Guide For Early American Copper Coins

MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭✭
EAC has announced the publication of its grading guide, available to members at the EAC in Colorado Springs May 1-4 2014 and to the public immediately thereafter.

I bet it will be great!
Derek

EAC 6024

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those copper guys have their own language. Can you verify it is written in English?
  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those copper guys have their own language. Can you verify it is written in English? >>



    image I sure hope so.
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh... To translate commonly known grades to EAC language... XF means VF, VF means F, F means VG and so on....
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh... To translate commonly known grades to EAC language... XF means VF, VF means F, F means VG and so on.... >>



    To a point ...

    But on the other side EAC people do not automatically condemn early copper coins with corrosion, artificial toning or minor repairs. They net grade them and describe what has been to the best degree than it can be determined. Such coins are not "junk," but simply reflect the fact the pure copper or what passed for pure copper at the first U.S. mint is very reactive and subject to the elements.

    For example this 1800 half cent is a very attractive coin, but so far grading services are concerned, it's junk because according them the surfaces are not original. Yet you can see graded coins that have had far more done them than this piece.

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    Ditto for this 1814 large cent.

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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭
    Those are 2 very nice coins Mr. Jones. It's a shame that the TPG's don't like the looks of them most of the time.
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those are 2 very nice coins Mr. Jones. It's a shame that the TPG's don't like the looks of them most of the time. >>



    What is deemed 'gradable' very much depends on the evolving marketplace acceptance of various types of numismatic collectables, and the need of the TPGs for a continuing cash stream.
    So, wait 5-10 years. image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Those are 2 very nice coins Mr. Jones. It's a shame that the TPG's don't like the looks of them most of the time. >>



    What is deemed 'gradable' very much depends on the evolving marketplace acceptance of various types of numismatic collectables, and the need of the TPGs for a continuing cash stream.
    So, wait 5-10 years. image >>



    I had one large cent that was rated as among the finest known for the variety. NGC bounced back to me in a body bag because of "environmental damage." I put it in an ANACS holder where they graded it as an AU-50. Later I cracked it out of that holder and submitted as a raw coin to one of the annual EAC auctions and got a very fair price for it. Recently it sold at a major auction, now in an NGC holder, graded AU-55.

    This sort of thing really causes ill will toward the grading services when they do stuff like that. You have no recourse despite the fact YOU know the coin can be fairly graded and is market acceptable. You money is down the tubes for grading fees and postage both ways, and you got nothing for it. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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