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George Brett RC PSA 10 - PWCC

Brett RC PSA 10........ This will be fun to watch......... Nice to see some nice cards being Auctioned.........unlike most sellers PWCC does a nice write up on the high end cards........... And unlike BIN cards that have been listed since Week 1 of the NFL season PWCC cards sell!

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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Wow - already over $5K
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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I'd prefer closer to 50/50 centering on a 10 like that hut that's me. All else is beautiful and worthy of a 10, but maybe I look at centering more than most.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a fan of the centering on that one, either, though it does appear to be within the parameters for the grade.


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  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    It's an old flip. Wonder if the realized price would be any higher if it was reholdered.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I think someone is going to be disappointed in that OPC style rough cut on the left side!!
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think someone is going to be disappointed in that OPC style rough cut on the left side!! >>



    I'd much prefer that to a trimmed edge.
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  • << <i>I'd prefer closer to 50/50 centering on a 10 like that hut that's me. All else is beautiful and worthy of a 10, but maybe I look at centering more than most. >>



    Agree. A little too bottom heavy for me. But don't let my wife hear that image


  • << <i>The card is a PSA 10 but the centering is bad, it has a rough cut, and it's in an old holder.

    Of course, if that card belonged to a board member it would be pristine in all respects. >>



    +1

    There are also qualities to a card that are as significant to the grade as centering, corners and edges, but are also almost impossible to see in a scan.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    To me this card is perfect.

    The front centering is near 50/50. The t/b centering could be better, but you can hardly notice. The rough cut is an attractive feature on a 75 Topps card (and speaks VOLUMES when it comes to cards integrity). Finally, I would look at the old flip as a big plus for this card. There was a time when PSA was unnecessarily harsh on 75 Topps cards. The Yount was a PSA 10 pop 0 for years and I had cards that should have been 9's and 10's come back as 7's and 8's when I was first putting together the set. PSA has since relaxed a bit and 10's are a bit easier to come by. This card looks to be premium in every respect.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>To me this card is perfect.

    The front centering is near 50/50. The t/b centering could be better, but you can hardly notice. The rough cut is an attractive feature on a 75 Topps card (and speaks VOLUMES when it comes to cards integrity). Finally, I would look at the old flip as a big plus for this card. There was a time when PSA was unnecessarily harsh on 75 Topps cards. The Yount was a PSA 10 pop 0 for years and I had cards that should have been 9's and 10's come back as 7's and 8's when I was first putting together the set. PSA has since relaxed a bit and 10's are a bit easier to come by. This card looks to be premium in every respect.

    I should add that this card is not mine. >>



    I'm not as sure if this is the case with regular-sized 75s, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that PSA is tougher and more conservative on grading 75 minis today than they were in years past (pre half-grade flip).


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  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not as sure if this is the case with regular-sized 75s, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that PSA is tougher and more conservative on grading 75 minis today than they were in years past (pre half-grade flip). >>



    They've always been tough on minis, I've only sent 40 or 50 minis into PSA over the years, but I can tell you that they are much more strict on them than the regular issue, especially recently. I recently sent in an order of 8's that were cracked from old flip PSA holders, SGC holders and GAI holders and everything received a bump (or crossed over evenly). I can remember back when there were only 2 or 3 Brett 10's and 0 Yount 10's and PSA would never throw me a bone, but who knows.
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pro's and con's to this card can be debated but in the end the label says PSA 10 so it is going to go for big money.

    I just checked the pop report and there are 9 out of 6,219 that have achieved this grade.

    In the liner notes of the SMR there was an example sell in 2013 for $14,340. I would think this one comes in above that number.



  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm not as sure if this is the case with regular-sized 75s, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that PSA is tougher and more conservative on grading 75 minis today than they were in years past (pre half-grade flip). >>



    They've always been tough on minis, I've only sent 40 or 50 minis into PSA over the years, but I can tell you that they are much more strict on them than the regular issue, especially recently. I recently sent in an order of 8's that were cracked from old flip PSA holders, SGC holders and GAI holders and everything received a bump (or crossed over evenly). I can remember back when there were only 2 or 3 Brett 10's and 0 Yount 10's and PSA would never throw me a bone, but who knows. >>



    They are much tougher now on minis than in the past when it comes to centering (many older cert minis are centered low T/B) and rejecting minsizereq cards..


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  • The card is not absolutely perfect, but I have no problem with the "10" grade. I don't see anything where I would say 'there's no way it should qualify to get a 10 and this is why'.
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  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful card! I'm not seeing the centering concerns at all, but I don't love the centering on the back of the card, at least not for what that card's going to sell for.

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  • I agree sidepocket. If I'm paying big money for a 10, then I want better centering on the back.

    The front centering is good enough for me.
  • I understand the concerns about centering, especially on front; some cards just aren't centered on back. For example, I've owned a few Montana PSA 10's and seen many others, yet to find one centered on back
  • Already over $14K with over 4 days left.

    Great to see such a premium example of this card getting the action it deserves.

    At this rate $20K is a realistic hammer.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I understand the concerns about centering, especially on front; some cards just aren't centered on back. For example, I've owned a few Montana PSA 10's and seen many others, yet to find one centered on back >>



    The best example of that is 1973 AllTime HR Leaders. Horrific back centering, tilted front, I don't think I've ever seen a really nice one.

    How can a particular card always have bad back centering? Wouldn't the whole sheet be affected, or was the spacing on that particular card off?
  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really don't understand why that rough cut on the left side does not knock it down to a 9. It is the first thing I see when I look at the card. Even above centering. I could not be happy paying that kind of money for a card, that I instantly see a flaw in. That is just me though, apparently PSA has an allowance for a rough cut. What is frustrating is sending in a perfectly centered card, both front and back, with 4 SCs no rough cuts, and some how getting an 8. I have cards like that, that after staring at them repeatedly, I still can't find the flaw.
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  • Like you say, PSA allows for rough cuts.

    When it comes to grading, centering and corners are just 2 of the many factors that PSA considers. And sometimes the flaws that knock a card down to an 8 are only visible in hand.

    The Brett is now over $15.5K, a new record high that shows no signs of slowing down just yet.
  • ToadManToadMan Posts: 219 ✭✭
    WOW!!! $17,000 with over 3 days and 9 hours left! My guess is $24k
  • At this pace it will reach 25K and maybe more...
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  • Honestly, not all that surprised....80's football is next, there's already been a spike (post Dmitri Young collection auction) that seemed to bump higher dollar RC's in other sports after that auction...try finding high grade key HOF 70's/80's QB rookies anywhere near VCP....I've been looking and had to pay more...

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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $20,100!!

    There were only three bidders above $10,500.


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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PSA 10 Brett

    514 watchers on this.

    Definitely a sign that there are a lot more collectors looking at cards.

    Looks like this card has more then doubled since this thread was started.

  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Is it me or is there an ever so slight tilt to this one? Absolutely pristine otherwise.
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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This card does not qualify for a "high end 10". I've asked the question in the past if the centering could come into play for PSA 10's. In this case i think it should. This would be considered a "low end 10" in my book. Still should fetch a nice price.
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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭
    What's wrong with the centering looks just about perfect to me?
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  • BatpigBatpig Posts: 460 ✭✭✭
    40,000. Good Lord.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jackstraw

    What's wrong with the centering looks just about perfect to me?




    I would tend to agree. If we are being picky (and I suppose we can be with a card of this magnitude), it is centered a bit high T/B with an almost imperceptible tilt. Not nearly enough so on either count to affect the grade, but noted simply for eye appeal.


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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mattinglymint23
    I'd prefer closer to 50/50 centering on a 10 like that hut that's me. All else is beautiful and worthy of a 10, but maybe I look at centering more than most.


    Agree. A little too bottom heavy for me. But don't let my wife hear that image


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  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭
    I started reading this thread not knowing it started in 2014. One of the posts said "wow, it's over $5K now..", and I thought to myself, that guy must have his head in a ditch...of course, it was 2 years ago, when cards were 25% of what they are now.
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  • Baez578Baez578 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭
    Never thought I'd see a Brett RC go for over 41K
  • JWBlueJWBlue Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
    I am the biggest snob when it comes to card centering and I feel the centering is very good. It is a little off center to the left, but I am still ok with it.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great card. Razor corners, but wow, $41000 for a brett rookie. That is an incredible price. Is there really much more upward movement for a card like this?

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  • VintagemanEdVintagemanEd Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
    The way the market has been I was a little surprised it didn't push higher. I
    Was surprised also that the 2 Brett 9's didn't go for more
  • AlbertdiditAlbertdidit Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: craig44
    Great card. Razor corners, but wow, $41000 for a brett rookie. That is an incredible price. Is there really much more upward movement for a card like this?


    In about 2 years it will go for 75k and we will all be kicking ourselves for not buying this one for 41K image

  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭✭
    2 years? If it is like the 68 Ryan PSA 9 it will be 2 months...

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  • AlbertdiditAlbertdidit Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    Ok - in 2 years it will be 250k
  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    Wow 40K for that card. What's the upside ?? Must be a true fan. You could buy 6 or 7 PSA 9 Jordan rookies for that money and double your money in a year or so.
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  • I'm surprised it didn't go for more considering it's sales history:

    6/15/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions i***p 29 $41,400.00
    5/14/16 Heritage Auction | Image 12 $38,240.00
    8/22/15 Heritage Image 12 $40,630.00
    5/14/14 Heritage Image 17 $20,315.00
    2/9/14 eBay Image prewarcardcollector m***h 70 $20,100.00
    5/20/12 SCP Auctions Image 28 $11,595.60
    9/24/07 eBay consignmints
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