Recognizing 1976 Hostess "Brown Back" variations
redlegs
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Hello,
I wanted to get an opinion to see if this was a variation that should be recognized by PSA in their grading.
The 1976 Hostess set included "brown print" variations on some of the backs. Hostess "Ding Dong" panels were printed on the west coast and had brown printing on the back. All other products were printed in the more common black printing. I had asked if a designation could be listed on the labels for "brown print" since the Standard Catalog does mention the "brown print" variation.
This is the response I received.
“These varieties (brown/black) backs weren’t cataloged until very recently. There was no mention of this variety back when these cards were spec’d/created. The 2013 Beckett Baseball Almanac does describe these cards and varieties. It states that these cards and varieties (brown/black) are valued the same. Since this is the case, we’re not going to recognize/change the specs of this set in our system.”
My argument to that is that PSA has graded the "L Shaped" panels and there is still no mention of this variation in the Standard Catalog. In 1976, the "L Shaped" panels were only produced on the Hostess Cupcake boxes on the east coast. The "brown back" panels were only produced on Hostess Ding Dongs boxes on the west coast. In my opinion it doesn't make sense to recognize one variation but not the other.
I sent a follow up response but I am not hopeful. I wanted to get opinions on this variation. I have included photos of both print types of panels below.
Thanks.
I wanted to get an opinion to see if this was a variation that should be recognized by PSA in their grading.
The 1976 Hostess set included "brown print" variations on some of the backs. Hostess "Ding Dong" panels were printed on the west coast and had brown printing on the back. All other products were printed in the more common black printing. I had asked if a designation could be listed on the labels for "brown print" since the Standard Catalog does mention the "brown print" variation.
This is the response I received.
“These varieties (brown/black) backs weren’t cataloged until very recently. There was no mention of this variety back when these cards were spec’d/created. The 2013 Beckett Baseball Almanac does describe these cards and varieties. It states that these cards and varieties (brown/black) are valued the same. Since this is the case, we’re not going to recognize/change the specs of this set in our system.”
My argument to that is that PSA has graded the "L Shaped" panels and there is still no mention of this variation in the Standard Catalog. In 1976, the "L Shaped" panels were only produced on the Hostess Cupcake boxes on the east coast. The "brown back" panels were only produced on Hostess Ding Dongs boxes on the west coast. In my opinion it doesn't make sense to recognize one variation but not the other.
I sent a follow up response but I am not hopeful. I wanted to get opinions on this variation. I have included photos of both print types of panels below.
Thanks.
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1975 Three card horizontal panel - black print
1975 Single card on Twinkie panel - black print
1975 Single card on Twinkie panel - brown print
1976 Three card horizontal panel - black print
1976 Three card horizontal panel - brown print (fFound w/ King Dons in the south)
1976 Three card non-horizontal panel - black print
1976 Single card on Twinkie panel - black print
1976 Single card on HoHo or Zinger panel (slightly smaller than Twinkie panels) - black print
1977 Three card horizontal panel - black print
1977 Single card Cupcake - smaller black print & black bar
1977 Single card Twinkie - black print
1977 Single card Twinkie 3 Pack or Suzy Q - black print
1977 Single card HoHo or Zinger panel - black print
1977 Single card Snowballs (maybe) panel with side flaps - black print
1978 Three card horizontal panel - black print
1979 Three card horizontal panel - black print
1979 Three card horizontal panel - brown print
Question for you, I have a couple 76 Twinkie panels I would like to send in and get graded. However if I were to trim these down to std card size I would remove the lines that "prove" its a twinkie card. Haven't come across any pictures of graded ones. Have any of you dealt with this?
Thanks.
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