1955 Topps Clemente rookie, worth a resub?

PSASAP · January 25, 2014 1:06PM

Dpeck100 · January 25, 2014 1:08PM

If you resub what grade are you hoping for?

PSASAP · January 25, 2014 1:12PM

A straight 7 at least, probably too o/c for an 8.

hammered · January 25, 2014 1:16PM

$2000 difference between yours (~PSA 6) and a PSA 7.
Definitely worth a resub.
Really sharp card there

ClockworkAngel · January 25, 2014 3:17PM

So when does a card qualify for a 7 and when does it qualify for an 8 (OC )? Are there any guidelines in place?

PSASAP · January 25, 2014 4:12PM

The centering tolerances for a 7 aren't as strict as they are for an 8. It's 65/35 to 70/30 for an 8, and 70/30 to 75/25 for a 7.

stown · January 25, 2014 7:21PM

<< <i>$2000 difference between yours (~PSA 6) and a PSA 7.
Definitely worth a resub.
Really sharp card there >>

+1

Beautiful Clemente, PSASAP!

fiveniner · January 25, 2014 8:27PM

maybe I am missing something I have seen worse centered cards comeback as an 8.

bobbyw8469 · January 25, 2014 8:46PM

Worth a resub, however you MUST crack-it out!!!! Good luck!

Dnice · January 25, 2014 9:54PM

That card should not qualify for an OC.

PaulMaul · January 25, 2014 10:04PM

<< <i>That card should not qualify for an OC. >>

What do you mean? I'm afraid it won't get a straight 7. The t/b centering on the left side appears to be 80/20 to me. It looks better on the right because of the slight tilt.

Dnice · January 25, 2014 10:22PM

The card is not centered well but it doesn't look OC either. I have seen first hand, cards that have gotten a straight grade with worse centering than this. Sometimes I think that the name of the player on the card plays a major role.

pclpads · January 26, 2014 1:17AM

Definitely re-sub. That's a killer card. But first, crack it, send it in raw and request in black, BOLD LETTERS, highlighted, at the top of the form: "NO QUALIFIERS, PLEASE."
Good luck!

PaulMaul · January 26, 2014 1:52AM

It's about 78/22 at the worst spot. I've found lately the centering requirements are enforced more strictly than advertised. I've gotten straight 7's on otherwise mint cards with centering between 65/35 and 70/30. But good luck!

Mickey71 · January 26, 2014 4:51AM

I think the grading is spot on. I would not crack it out. I'm always thinking that's risky.

Regardless of the grade......that's a nice card.

dtkk49a · January 26, 2014 9:27AM

That is one beautiful 55 Clemente, regardless of the qualifier.
I received this Clemente from a board member recently. Did this receive the O/C qualifier because of the front or the back ??

grote15 · January 26, 2014 9:30AM

<< <i>I received this Clemente from a board member recently. Did this receive the O/C qualifier because of the front or the back ??

>>

The front due to T/B centering.

WeekendHacker · January 26, 2014 11:29PM

I gotta agree with Mickey71 on this one - although a very nice card with even better corners than a 7 - it's not worth cracking in the HOPES of a bump. To me - it simply goes back to the basic of all PSA card collecting principles - collect/buy the card - not the holder. Yes, a 7 will be slightly more desirable than an 8 (OC) - but I just don't see PSA budging on a top 200 card. Good luck with what ever you decide - if you choose to resub - ya might want to consider a review in the holder before cracking.

PSASAP · January 27, 2014 3:52PM

Here's one that Probstein is auctioning that is centered similar to mine:

link to eBay auction

PSASAP · February 1, 2016 12:27PM

Here's one that sold recently:

ebay link

ThoseBackPages · February 1, 2016 12:30PM

hows the back look?

PSASAP · February 1, 2016 1:04PM

From what I recall, it's at least as good or better than the 7 that recently sold.

70ToppsFanatic · February 1, 2016 1:27PM

It's getting very tough to get a bump on the premium cards in the hobby. I can't tell you how many pre-0.5 grade 8 Clemente RCs I have seen (and held) which don't hold a candle to the 7.5 example below, but the 7.5 keeps getting turned down when it is reviewed even though there are existing "8s" which side-by-side show more physical wear, worse centering and less eye appeal. In today's market with the prices of these RCs literally flying grading could easily become a license to print money. A Clemente 8 was a $5k card 2-3 years ago. We just saw a sale at over $50k! Perhaps that is an explanation on why some feel that grading has become stricter. Grading remains a subjective art, much more than a science and thus there will always be differing opinions. If you decide to submit for a bump I wish you the best of luck.

Dboneesq · February 1, 2016 1:39PM

That was two years in between posts. What did you do with your card?

PSASAP · February 1, 2016 1:45PM

Still got the hacksaw in my hand, ready to make the first cut, Doug.

RipublicaninMass · February 2, 2016 2:09AM

You need that centering tool available on the bst boards!

Nice card

miwlvrn · February 2, 2016 2:45AM

I don't think it helps the 1973 that it is OC in two directions on back instead of just one though, even if the front is a bit OC t/b.

CocoaBeachDodgers · February 2, 2016 2:21PM

It is possible the back is causing the qualifier, can you scan the back?

grote15 · February 3, 2016 12:16AM

Back centering does not typically generate an OC qualifier and the qualifier on that particular card is for centering on front. Even for a PSA 9, back centering can be 90/10 or better.

ahkmedbinladen · February 3, 2016 1:28AM

Yep..what Grote said

BPorter26 · February 3, 2016 2:30AM

Duane.... It's worth a shot to try an I believe it has a shot for that straight 7. I'll be rooting for you!!!

PSASAP · May 4, 2016 8:07AM

The centering on this one is awfully close to mine:

link

KendallCat · May 4, 2016 9:32AM

I think it has a slight tilt which makes it look close to yours, but I would say that they belong in the holders they currently reside in using my non grader eyes. Amazing how much this card has taken off lately.

Baez578 · May 5, 2016 8:45AM

Good luck with sub. Should be a 7 IMO

1980scollector · May 5, 2016 10:18PM

With ANY chance to bump a Clemente rookie you try it not once but 2/3 times.

TheMick6 · May 6, 2016 1:53AM

I gotta agree that the card itself played a small role in the grade. I hate saying that but it does seem to ring true at times. I've seen commons with that centering get a straight 8. I do however fell that they have tightened up on there vintage grading as of late. If that where Mel Parnell and not Clemente more likely to not get the OC in my opinion. What does it being a top 100 card or whatever have to do with the real grade? Bugs me sometimes that it seems to be the case.

TheMick6 · May 6, 2016 2:26AM

I meant straight 7 not 8 just retread my post. That card could be a 7 as long as the corners hold up.

1955 Topps Clemente rookie, worth a resub?

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