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Mint Waffle Cancel Proof Dollar.....

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Without a doubt..................Post Strike Damage! image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FANTASTIC! image
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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find it interesting how difficult it is to say with certainty that this is a Proof coin based solely upon the photos. The fields certainly lose their reflectivity under the turmoil of the waffling.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I find it interesting how difficult it is to say with certainty that this is a Proof coin based solely upon the photos. The fields certainly lose their reflectivity under the turmoil of the waffling. >>



    Umm the "S"
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Without a doubt..................Post Strike Damage! image >>



    Absolutely !!!! But it did happen at the mint imageimage
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2006 S
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Silly question.....how does the edge look?
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ......
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ...... >>



    Error coin? Proofs are struck in three-part collars that have the lettering on them.
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know about what error if any was on this sac.

    I have seen a fair number of waffle coins and have never been able to make out any error except a sintered planchet waffle here and there which is not the case with this coin.

  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ...... >>



    Error coin? Proofs are struck in three-part collars that have the lettering on them. >>



    In 2006 they were not edge lettering these coins yet.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ...... >>



    Error coin? Proofs are struck in three-part collars that have the lettering on them. >>



    In 2006 they were not edge lettering these coins yet. >>



    That's right. I was thinking of the more recent pieces.

    Never mind!
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  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never seen an actual error coin that has been waffled, but tons of coins and planchets that look perfectly normal out in the market that have been waffled. WHY? I've been asking this ever since the waffle coins first started to show up. I find this to be very strange, suspicious even.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be overages.
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a really neat piece.
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Behind bars sac
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ...... >>



    Error coin? Proofs are struck in three-part collars that have the lettering on them. >>



    In 2006 they were not edge lettering these coins yet. >>



    That's right. I was thinking of the more recent pieces.

    Never mind! >>



    The first tell is the date and mm location.
    Those are both on the edge now.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would think a waffler could be made and used outside the mint.
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mmmmmmmm. Waffles..........
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't had a waffle is more than a year....


    mmmmmmm


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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Without a doubt..................Post Strike Damage! image >>



    Absolutely !!!! But it did happen at the mint imageimage >>

    You sure about that??

    But really, it doesn't matter since these coins are all over the place as an active market has been created.

    What would be cool would by to find a well know variety that's been "waffled".

    I expect that this proof coin didn't belly up to the quality bar as the motto looks really weak for an S Mint coin.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Silly question.....how does the edge look? >>



    No question is silly.

    The edge does not have lettering but that would have been extremely cool ...... >>



    Error coin? Proofs are struck in three-part collars that have the lettering on them. >>

    Not for 2006 Tom. Edge Lettering on these golden planchets didn't start until 2007.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • chicken and waffles thats what I need right now !!!!!
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, there are Waffled coins with
    major errors that have surfaced along
    with the huge quantities of Waffles
    that do not appear to have any error on
    them.

    About two years ago, I bought a group
    of Waffled Presidential Dollars - three
    of them were Indented strikes, easily seen
    thru the ridges.

    The group also had Waffled Clad Quarters
    and Halves struck with the Martha Washington
    Dies !

    By the way, the huge Waffling Machine is
    incredibly loud!
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting.... where are these coins found? Smuggled out of the mint? Obviously waffled for a reason, but how did they get out? Cheers, RickO
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I find it interesting how difficult it is to say with certainty that this is a Proof coin based solely upon the photos. The fields certainly lose their reflectivity under the turmoil of the waffling. >>

    Umm the "S" >>

    I suppose that works if you're into taking the easy way out of questions like this. imageimage
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you had that coin in-hand, I'm sure
    you could see the Proof surfaces.

    The Proof surface on Proof Waffled
    coins are easy to see, even if you can't
    see the Mintmark.
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fred, thank you for the information about the waffled errors and the machine. I would love to go on a private mint tour someday to see all the inner workings.

    And as Fred said about the proof waffled coins with no mintmark, You can clearly see the difference and know that you do indeed have a waffled proof coin in hand.
  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭
    Usually not a big fan of waffle coins, but I like this one!


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Without a doubt..................Post Strike Damage! image >>



    Absolutely !!!! But it did happen at the mint imageimage >>

    You sure about that??

    But really, it doesn't matter since these coins are all over the place as an active market has been created.

    What would be cool would by to find a well know variety that's been "waffled".

    I expect that this proof coin didn't belly up to the quality bar as the motto looks really weak for an S Mint coin. >>



    Here's one for you: 2010 MEL Waffle

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    BRANDYWINE KRAUSE COIN OF THE YEAR REGISTRY SET

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>[About two years ago, I bought a group
    of Waffled Presidential Dollars - three
    of them were Indented strikes, easily seen
    thru the ridges./Q]

    I guess I've always wondered how it was possible to tell that these didn't just result from overlapping another coin while being inside the cancellation machine.
  • Sorry - Picture didn't attach.

    2010 MEL Waffle

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    BRANDYWINE KRAUSE COIN OF THE YEAR REGISTRY SET

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    BRANDYWINE KRAUSE COIN OF THE YEAR REGISTRY SET

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    Wow that one is extremely nice, great pick up..
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    I thought the mint originally used a outside vendor to waffle and destroy the coins and then they or some employees decided to sell them. I thought that was discussed here a few years back.

    Then again I may have just dreamed this as I was in a holiday recently.
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  • here are some i found on the bay


    Thomas Jefferson proof

    Text

    James Madison proof

    Text

    double struck dime error

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  • mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002





    JMHO,I dont consider a waffled coin an error.Mostly done by the mint on purpose.Interesting pieces? yes but not an error.
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That's a really neat piece. >>


    I agree. Especially the reverse.

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