<< <i>Original VF/XF 1860-S? Best wishes! That's a white rhino. >>
After collecting rare gold like the 1860-S $5 and the Civil War dated $5's, pop 50 or below in all grades, the 1860-S 25c in VF isn't exactly a white rhino. Many of the coins in my Sub 100 Pop set are much more difficult.
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<< <i>Original VF/XF 1860-S? Best wishes! That's a white rhino. >>
After collecting rare gold like the 1860-S $5 and the Civil War dated $5's, pop 50 or below in all grades, the 1860-S 25c in VF isn't exactly a white rhino. Many of the coins in my Sub 100 Pop set are much more difficult.
Note, thread was already at the top when responding. >>
You'll find out. I'd place the total pop of the 60-s in all grades at 100-150 pieces with 100-125 probably being the sweet spot. How many of those are totally problem free VF and above? 10-20% at best? I'd say finding a VF/XF like the 1862-s you posted is probably one of only a couple of coins in existance. The 62-s is the easiest of the 59-s, 60-s, 61-s, 62-s run in higher grades. In fact, much easier. The 60-s is several times tougher than the 62-s in problem free VF/XF. The one advantage the 60-s $5 gold coin has is that it won't corrode and turn totally ugly like the 60-s quarter. People were more apt to clean their silver coins vs. gold coins. Moisture and time corroded a lot of 60-s quarters. I'd venture that problem free 60-s $5's in Fine or better probably out number the 60-s quarter. The quarter has 2-1/2 X the mintage of the $5 Lib but a miniscule survival rate of approx 0.2%. I'd agree that a problem-free VF/XF 60-s quarter to sit next to your 62-s is indeed a white rhino. A few may exist. The owners won't part with those until they die and their sets get broken up. Even that 59-s in VF linked above is slightly messed with and far from original. I've only been collecting and studying seated quarters since 1974, so what do I know? Was always hoping to find a choice or gem unc 60-s. Talk about a white rhino. One or two are slabbed as unc but certainly don't measure up. 62-s and 58-s are the "easy" ones. The 3 in between are tougher, especially the bookends. And I think the 60-s outshines the 59-s.
One of our forum members just picked up a nice 1860-s quarter at the local show here. I have not seen it, but I am sure it is nice, he has a good eye for quality. Everything else he has is;
How about an 1858-s PCGS Au-53, I have one of those for sale. I think the 1858-S is a very underrated date, still only one known unc. for the date and probably less then a dozen AU's.
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The OP has a good point about the S-mint gold from the same era (minus the common $20 shipwreck issues). They suffer from many of the same issues that the quarters do, and there are barely any of them left. One major difference is that the higher collector demand for the quarter will make it harder to get (and more expensive). You will pay $7,000 for a PCGS VF30 1860-S quarter and $10,000-$12,000 for a PCGS XF40-45- and that's if you even get a shot at it. The 1860-S $5 gold can probably be had for one quarter of that amount in the same grades due to lower collector demand. It is a fair comparison, as both issues are condition rarities, with populations topping out in the AU grades. I have to admit that the "S" mint $5 gold issues from that era are very attractive buys in comparison, and I am tempted to acquire a few of them. As for the 1862-S quarter, it's the only one in that run that is essentially easy to find. I would rank the others 1860-S < 1859-S < 1858-S < 1861-S < 1862-S in terms of surviving populations.
If you do find the "perfect" 1860-S in VF-XF, please do post it over on the main forum. A lot of people would enjoy seeing it.
I saw images of the 60-S Jim Dimmick refers to above .. it looked really wholesome and original in the images .. However, it remains in it's NGC-40 slab .. PCGS wouldn't cross it
<< <i>I saw images of the 60-S Jim Dimmick refers to above .. it looked really wholesome and original in the images .. However, it remains in it's NGC-40 slab .. PCGS wouldn't cross it >>
ttt for the day... Would love to see pics of that 60-S N40.
<< <i>I saw images of the 60-S Jim Dimmick refers to above .. it looked really wholesome and original in the images .. However, it remains in it's NGC-40 slab .. PCGS wouldn't cross it >>
No problem. It's probably worth just as much in a PCGS VF35 holder w/sticker. If I owned it I'd be tempted to crack it and send it to PCGS. Not much downside imo. Better date seated quarters in PCGS holders fetch some really strong prices. NGC seated coins struggle. An interesting XF45 1872-s is going off in this week's Heritage NY auction.
Don't forget the 1872-s quarter. I am selling my PCGS VF-25 in the heritage sale and it is up to $5,500 plus the juice. I figure I can get by with my other 1872-s PCGS F-12 and deploy funds elsewhere.
<< <i>Don't forget the 1872-s quarter. I am selling my PCGS VF-25 in the heritage sale and it is up to $5,500 plus the juice. I figure I can get by with my other 1872-s PCGS F-12 and deploy funds elsewhere. >>
Looks like bidding closed with my 1872-s at $6,500 without the juice, now to see if it moves up some more on the floor!
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<< <i>Original VF/XF 1860-S? Best wishes! That's a white rhino.
After collecting rare gold like the 1860-S $5 and the Civil War dated $5's, pop 50 or below in all grades, the 1860-S 25c in VF isn't exactly a white rhino. Many of the coins in my Sub 100 Pop set are much more difficult.
Note, thread was already at the top when responding.
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<< <i>Original VF/XF 1860-S? Best wishes! That's a white rhino.
After collecting rare gold like the 1860-S $5 and the Civil War dated $5's, pop 50 or below in all grades, the 1860-S 25c in VF isn't exactly a white rhino. Many of the coins in my Sub 100 Pop set are much more difficult.
Note, thread was already at the top when responding. >>
You'll find out. I'd place the total pop of the 60-s in all grades at 100-150 pieces with 100-125 probably being the sweet spot. How many of those are totally problem free VF and above? 10-20% at best? I'd say finding
a VF/XF like the 1862-s you posted is probably one of only a couple of coins in existance. The 62-s is the easiest of the 59-s, 60-s, 61-s, 62-s run in higher grades. In fact, much easier. The 60-s is several times tougher
than the 62-s in problem free VF/XF. The one advantage the 60-s $5 gold coin has is that it won't corrode and turn totally ugly like the 60-s quarter. People were more apt to clean their silver coins vs. gold coins. Moisture
and time corroded a lot of 60-s quarters. I'd venture that problem free 60-s $5's in Fine or better probably out number the 60-s quarter. The quarter has 2-1/2 X the mintage of the $5 Lib but a miniscule survival rate of approx
0.2%. I'd agree that a problem-free VF/XF 60-s quarter to sit next to your 62-s is indeed a white rhino. A few may exist. The owners won't part with those until they die and their sets get broken up. Even that 59-s in VF
linked above is slightly messed with and far from original. I've only been collecting and studying seated quarters since 1974, so what do I know? Was always hoping to find a choice or gem unc 60-s. Talk about a white
rhino. One or two are slabbed as unc but certainly don't measure up. 62-s and 58-s are the "easy" ones. The 3 in between are tougher, especially the bookends. And I think the 60-s outshines the 59-s.
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If you do find the "perfect" 1860-S in VF-XF, please do post it over on the main forum. A lot of people would enjoy seeing it.
<< <i>I saw images of the 60-S Jim Dimmick refers to above .. it looked really wholesome and original in the images .. However, it remains in it's NGC-40 slab .. PCGS wouldn't cross it
ttt for the day... Would love to see pics of that 60-S N40.
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<< <i>I saw images of the 60-S Jim Dimmick refers to above .. it looked really wholesome and original in the images .. However, it remains in it's NGC-40 slab .. PCGS wouldn't cross it
No problem. It's probably worth just as much in a PCGS VF35 holder w/sticker. If I owned it I'd be tempted to crack it and send it to PCGS. Not much downside imo. Better date seated quarters in PCGS holders
fetch some really strong prices. NGC seated coins struggle. An interesting XF45 1872-s is going off in this week's Heritage NY auction.
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<< <i>Don't forget the 1872-s quarter. I am selling my PCGS VF-25 in the heritage sale and it is up to $5,500 plus the juice. I figure I can get by with my other 1872-s PCGS F-12 and deploy funds elsewhere. >>
Looks like bidding closed with my 1872-s at $6,500 without the juice, now to see if it moves up some more on the floor!
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