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I thought I would share a new-to-the-hobby Cassius Clay card

I've been researching and cataloging cards from Argentina for a while now. I found it very fascinating that they had such a rich history of trading cards as inserts or collectibles, dating back to the 19th century. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, this card is a new-to-the-hobby discovery -- haven't seen of another or heard of anyone cataloging it in the set.

It comes from the 1966 Maravillas set, which is an absolutely gargantuan set with too many subjects and topics to list here. Anything you can possibly fathom is included in it -- flowers, dogs, local politicians, international politicians, local entertainment celebrities, international entertainment celebrities, scenes from Pinocchio, you name it. It's a real mish-mash of subjects with seemingly no stone left unturned.

To this point, I've cataloged 20 boxing cards (of course, there's also futbol cards and a Pele) that include IBHOFers Nicolino Locche and Masahaiko "Fighting" Harada (shoveling a bowl of noodles into his mouth, oddly enough). I suspect there's a also a Pascual Perez, although I've never seen one. Perez was a popular Argentine fighter and also a IBHOF inductee who appeared in just about every set from Argentina up to this point that included boxing cards on their checklist.

The set is printed on paper stock and contains hundreds and hundreds of cards. They're somewhat difficult, as I've only seen them come up for sale a couple of times and the majority of my cards came from one seller who listed a massive group of cards from the set at once.

Dating these sets is always difficult because albums are rare and sellers usually aren't concerned with accurately identifying the issue date as we are here in the States. Luckily, the backs of the cards provide current title-holder status and even mention if a fighter is an ex-title holder so narrowing down the issue date wasn't much harder than spending an hour on boxrec.com looking up when a fighter held said title, when they obtained it, and when they lost it.

Anyway, here's the Clay.

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  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭
    awesome
  • very cool card muchacho

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  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Very cool! What size is it?
  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    I bet that set would be fun to chase. Are there hobby shops in Argentina?
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  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    Great find. I always like to see new discoveries like this. I just started learning about cards from South America. I'm constantly learning about new sets.. It's great
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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting stuff, thanks a lot for sharing and congrats on the find.

  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Great work, Arthur!
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  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭✭
    very cool card there
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys, this is what I really enjoy. Sometimes I think the cards are just a vehicle for me to research and catalog The cards aren't big, around a 49 Bowman I would say, for comparison sake.

    Here's the Nicolino Locche, Pele, and Fighting Harada cards in case anyone was curious.

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    There appear to be a good amount of hobby shops in Argentina and collecting is still pretty strong there, although it's mostly futbol cards these days. But back pre-1980 there were a good amount of boxing cards. I've cataloged boxing cards from as far back as 1925 from Argentina. But they would have the occasional US athlete from other sports as well. Here's a John McEnroe card from 1980. There's also a Victor Galindez card from this set, who I mentioned in another thread that died tragically in a race car accident in 1980, and is an IBHOF inductee.

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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Joan Mcenroe..appropriately named... He did cry like a little girl all the time
  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭
    It must be an awesome feeling to find a card, particularly a huge name, that has possibly not been catalogued before. That is so cool. Thanks for sharing it.
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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The dinner shots are pretty funny, as if the set were compiled by paparazzi taking unauthorized photos and printing them as cards.


  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The dinner shots are pretty funny, as if the set were compiled by paparazzi taking unauthorized photos and printing them as cards. >>



    They probably were unauthorized. image

    Great find Arthur!! I find researching different aspects of the hobby to be more enjoyable than actually collecting them. I've accumulated so many notes over the years I really need to condense them into one resource. A nice project for retirement.
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  • mikliamiklia Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭
    Great stuff, Arthur - love the Joan Mac card too!
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    I've seen that McEnroe before. I think jimmy conners is also in that set. Do you have anymore info on that set. I'd like to scoop those cards and eventually get them graded
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1980 Deportitstas. Yes, Connors is in the set, as is Maradona.
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