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Should you block a serial bid retractor on ebay?
bronco2078
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I 'm running a listing and it had 2 low bids. A 3rd bidder came in and ran it up to 8$ and then cancelled saying he entered the wrong amount. I looked at his info and it says he has retracted 54 bids in the last 6 months.
I mostly do fixed price so I haven't seen this before . Whats the play here? Block him so he can't bid again at the end or just ignore it?
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It can appear to some that you are shilling
It may be a way to check how cheaply it'd go for
Bad news. PM me the id
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<< <i>Someone who has retracted that many bids shouldn't even be allowed on ebay, block. >>
Agree,
<< <i>Yes, block. Post the name here too please. >>
+1
buckeye*597 is the ID . The ID has bid on 159 auctions in the last 30 days.
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<< <i>buckeye*597 is the ID . The ID has bid on 159 auctions in the last 30 days.
He has 686 feedback comments and 100% feedback. Sounds ok on the surface. How do I check on his retracted bids?
- Jim
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<< <i>buckeye*597 is the ID . The ID has bid on 159 auctions in the last 30 days.
He has 686 feedback comments and 100% feedback. Sounds ok on the surface. How do I check on his retracted bids?
I'm not sure how to go directly to that for a given ebay ID but this is what I did
I was looking at my own item but I wasn't logged into my seller account. If you go to the item bids page at the bottom it shows bids retracted and the name of the bidder is disguised as k***e(686)
if you click on that name you get a bidder history page and you can see the following.
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 276
Items bid on: 140
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 0% Help
Bid retractions: 1
Bid retractions (6 months): 54
Strangely enough if I search by bidder with my other ID I saw 159 items bid on
Looking at the item specific list of actual purchases by buckeye*597 and reviewing bid histories of those items, there is no evidence that exploratory bids were placed and then retracted. Even though the practice would only provide some benefit (finding a seller's reserve price) in the case of reserve items, it still gives the impression to other potential bidders of improper bidding activity, since it is very difficult to profile other members bidding habits or identity presently.
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I once had a buyer retract tons of bids so I blocked him (over a thousand in the less than one month since he joined eBay). He was rather displeased by my actions and made that clear in some emails. He eventually registered a new account just to buy up 11 items from me and leave negatives on all of them. While the contact info was different, I was able to point out that he had left the same wording in feedback from both accounts and that his terrible grammar was consistent. eBay removed all the negs and when he filed a SNAD on the entire package, that was declined, too (his plan was to leave negs then return everything so it didn't cost him anything... ended up costing over $500
Anyway, yes, I block bidders that have any significant history of retraction, whether it's just with me or in general. I've had some plead to come back, but the fact is, if they do it once, they'll do it again. Depending on timing, retractions can immensely influence the final price of an auction, and I won't stand for it unless it's an obvious mistaken bid or it looks like a true one-off.
<< <i>54 retractions? That's nothing!
I once had a buyer retract tons of bids so I blocked him (over a thousand in the less than one month since he joined eBay). He was rather displeased by my actions and made that clear in some emails. He eventually registered a new account just to buy up 11 items from me and leave negatives on all of them. While the contact info was different, I was able to point out that he had left the same wording in feedback from both accounts and that his terrible grammar was consistent. eBay removed all the negs and when he filed a SNAD on the entire package, that was declined, too (his plan was to leave negs then return everything so it didn't cost him anything... ended up costing over $500
Anyway, yes, I block bidders that have any significant history of retraction, whether it's just with me or in general. I've had some plead to come back, but the fact is, if they do it once, they'll do it again. Depending on timing, retractions can immensely influence the final price of an auction, and I won't stand for it unless it's an obvious mistaken bid or it looks like a true one-off. >>
what a moron
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<< <i>54 retractions? That's nothing!
I once had a buyer retract tons of bids so I blocked him (over a thousand in the less than one month since he joined eBay). He was rather displeased by my actions and made that clear in some emails. He eventually registered a new account just to buy up 11 items from me and leave negatives on all of them. While the contact info was different, I was able to point out that he had left the same wording in feedback from both accounts and that his terrible grammar was consistent. eBay removed all the negs and when he filed a SNAD on the entire package, that was declined, too (his plan was to leave negs then return everything so it didn't cost him anything... ended up costing over $500
Anyway, yes, I block bidders that have any significant history of retraction, whether it's just with me or in general. I've had some plead to come back, but the fact is, if they do it once, they'll do it again. Depending on timing, retractions can immensely influence the final price of an auction, and I won't stand for it unless it's an obvious mistaken bid or it looks like a true one-off. >>
That is just awful. Too bad there wasn't more you could do, but hopefully the $500 hurt him.
I agree with the others. Block the SoB!
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I blocked him to keep him out of my other stuff . Looking at the fact that he bids at 160 auctions a month that equates to nearly 1000 in 6 months. 54 retractions in that time is only a 5% retraction rate. Against the number of items he's taking a run at its not as bad as I first thought.
I also sent a message to ebay complaining about the retraction . I haven't heard anything back but I don't expect much on that front. A guy that bids at that many auctions actually makes ebay money by pushing up prices. I don't think they want to remove bidders like that.
Bidding on the bullion auctions make sense , at least there is some value but $1.80 earring auctions? free shipped from China , earrings and sunglasses , knives and Nazi postage stamps?
He was in on this auction up to the $30 level is this even a real bar?chinese 10 gram sealed gold bar
It looks like an alibaba.com special. What is the point of bidding a 10 gram gold bar up to $30 ? if its real you won't win and if its fake you might? Sounds like a lose lose
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<< <i>buckeye*597 is the ID . The ID has bid on 159 auctions in the last 30 days.
I'm not sure how to go directly to that for a given ebay ID but this is what I did
I was looking at my own item but I wasn't logged into my seller account. If you go to the item bids page at the bottom it shows bids retracted and the name of the bidder is disguised as k***e(686)
if you click on that name you get a bidder history page and you can see the following.
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 276
Items bid on: 140
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 0% Help
Bid retractions: 1
Bid retractions (6 months): 54
Strangely enough if I search by bidder with my other ID I saw 159 items bid on
Thanks for the info. Blocked!!
- Jim
<< <i>... 54 retractions in that time is only a 5% retraction rate. ... >>
A 5% retraction rate is very high. That equates to 1 in every 20 bids.
Bid retractions are supposed to be rare exceptions, not used routinely.
I do not like to block anyone except when I believe they lied or cheated , such as in the case of those who are blocked, now. (which really aren't even those who haven't paid) , it's those who not only got merchandise, but claimed they did not, received a reimbursement and then went on to "gig" me using an antiquated feedback system that means about as much as signing up for health care. It's never going to cure the common cold-hearted bass turds. Feedbacks and gates with locks only keep the honest people honest. A serial retractor is not honest. They should be eliminated from the site.
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<< <i>Blocked >>
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<< <i>buckeye*597 is the ID . The ID has bid on 159 auctions in the last 30 days.
Blocked. Thanks for the heads up.
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In an interesting development a different person has bid and then retracted twice on this listing.
Bidder Information
Bidder: 1***c ( 129Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Feedback: 100% Positive
Item description: Item Title: British Silver coin lot mixed 50% and sterling mixed dates 1.71 troy oz. ASW
Bids on this item: 7
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 338
Items bid on: 193
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 2% Help
Bid retractions: 63
Bid retractions (6 months): 585
the id is mck80001yahoo. 585 bid retractions in 6 months? It's just loose British scrap silver I don't see what all the drama is about. It's not even a very good picture .
You sign up for it , it's a binding contract. You skirt the rules, you get away with it and think it's okay. You keep doing it because ebay is in it for the money, not the seller. You're in it for the game and not the sportsmanship. You know who you are. It's business.
Some people have a mantra that it's "Screw or be screwed". Why ? It's anyone's guess.
YOU know's who he is. I'm not that way. I signed up to serve. I do it to the best of my ability. Every customer and every item is different. Every situation is a matter of making money. It's that simple. Don't get your feelings all hurt over a few spilled beans. (no offense to the gods of the industry)
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At first I thought it might be the same guy but blocked guy number 2 is selling a few things and he is in new york. Block guy number one appears to be a buckeye's fan and no one outside of ohio would admit to that
Is there a way to tell if someone you have blocked attempts to bid on your item afterwards?
<< <i>At first I thought it might be the same guy but blocked guy number 2 is selling a few things and he is in new york. Block guy number one appears to be a buckeye's fan and no one outside of ohio would admit to that
Is there a way to tell if someone you have blocked attempts to bid on your item afterwards? >>
Nope...eBay will not disclose that info.
What happens is he bids on item A, finds a deal he prefers on item B, and retracts his bid on item A. In reality, he really does not have the money to be buying anything anyway. Block him.
<< <i>Why would anyone even need to ask that? >>
If you block people then sometimes they retaliate . There isn't a lot of overlap between coins and used truck parts. I'd probably never see either of these idiots again if I took no action .
Just to reiterate for those filling out a blocked bidder list
Idiot #1 was buckeye*597 54 retractions in 6 months and
idiot # 2 was mck80001yahoo. 585 bid retractions in 6 months
Apparently bidder #2 with the 585 retractions didn't like being blocked. He used another ID to bid on a different item thats ending today. He bid and retracted once before I noticed and then bid again and id now the high bidder .
His backup ID is mck800001yahoo13 11 feedback and 50 retractions .
I blocked that ID but he is still the high bidder so I think if he manually bids again he won't be able to but will it prevent an automatic bid raise?
I know I could cancel the bid but looking at his track record he doesn't appear to be very good at winning auctions . I'm going to message him after its over and see what he has to say.
* * * I always thought Ebay should require that a bidder who retracts a bid due to "wrong amount" (or any reason for that matter) be forced to re-submit a "correct bid", rather than be allowed to bow out......
.....but that's just me.....
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<< <i>I would block him >>
id block em to. if they did it all once to you theyll do it again