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<< <i>This may be a little harsh being a Yankee fan, but I for one am tired of Rodriguez and all the negative press he has brought to the team. I'm hoping they settle everything soon, he gets what he gets, then maybe buy out his contract and move on. Besides Mariano Rivera's final season/retirement which was a positive thing, even though I will miss watching him pitch tremendously, I feel this entire a rod fiasco has gotten us one step further from what's really important : winning ball games. Even watching Rodriguez play the last couple years has been very painful. He's hurt all the time, he strikes out a lot especially when we need that big hit, and he'd rather sign baseballs in the dugout and give them to teenage girls in the stands, rather then pay attention to what his team is doing and strive to get better and get out of his slump. The guy is a clown if you ask me. I don't know whether the Yankees will want to or be able to buy out his contract, but as a lifelong fan, i'd like to see him gone and replaced with someone that cares about his team, and not about his own personal stats/agendas. I feel he is too much of a liability anymore and whatever legacy he had will forever be tarnished because of all of negative press he's had. We need positive changes. A-roids gone is one of them.
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Well said. I believe the 200+ suspension is coming and it will be interesting to see if can catch on in 15 with another team. If it's over for him then good because I don't want to see him pass Mays, Ruth, Aaron.
They should save up for Mike Trout (The next Mickey Mantle).
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<< <i>I personally don't think he will pass them guys. If he gets the full suspension, that's a season and a half missed. Who knows what kind of shape he'll be in mentally and physically if and when he does come back, and it will be interesting to see what team wants to take a big chance on a liability like him. With the way a rod's career has turned, does he join bonds and clemens on the hof blocked list? >>
I think it is a forgone conclusion that he is already the king of that blacklist. The doucheiest of the douche.
If anyone out there can't see the discrepancy in punishments being anything less than a personal vendetta by Bud then you're letting your personal feelings get in the way of rational, objective thought.
<< <i>162 games, and that's far too many for a first time offense. Braun received less than half that - maybe because he plays for Selig's team, oops I mean the Brewers.
If anyone out there can't see the discrepancy in punishments being anything less than a personal vendetta by Bud then you're letting your personal feelings get in the way of rational, objective thought. >>
It's just MLB doing the Yankees a solid and getting off the books for a year..
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<< <i>162 games, and that's far too many for a first time offense. Braun received less than half that - maybe because he plays for Selig's team, oops I mean the Brewers.
If anyone out there can't see the discrepancy in punishments being anything less than a personal vendetta by Bud then you're letting your personal feelings get in the way of rational, objective thought. >>
It's just MLB doing the Yankees a solid and getting off the books for a year.. >>
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Exactly - it killed them that he came back from the injury before the end of last season
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<< <i>he'd rather sign baseballs in the dugout and give them to teenage girls in the stands, rather then pay attention to what his team is doing and strive to get better and get out of his slump. >>
It's baseballs (plural) now? There's no proof at all that he even did it once, and he said he didn't. These supposed girls didn't look like teenagers, either. Steroids or not, he's a hard worker by all accounts. Do you really think that hitting slumps are always caused by not working hard?
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<< <i>he'd rather sign baseballs in the dugout and give them to teenage girls in the stands, rather then pay attention to what his team is doing and strive to get better and get out of his slump. >>
It's baseballs (plural) now? There's no proof at all that he even did it once, and he said he didn't. These supposed girls didn't look like teenagers, either. Steroids or not, he's a hard worker by all accounts. Do you really think that hitting slumps are always caused by not working hard? >>
Don't think for one minute if he was productive and a model Yankee the Yankee fans wouldn't be yelling foul....
But its get rid of him and save up for Mike Trout.... Like that's an option..... lol
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I truly don't understand this "head buried in the sand" phenomenon when it comes to ARod. If there really is no "proof", why did the arbitrator give him the stiffest PED sentence in MLB history? Even more compelling, why was every player that the MLB finally decided to pursue, willing to so quickly agree to their suspensions, including a perpetual liar like Ryan Braun? OBVIOUSLY, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, even though the public hasn't been privy to it. Otherwise, it's OBVIOUS that these players would not have rolled over, nor the arbitrator willing to hand down such a stiff penalty for ARod, whom I presume there is by far the most amount of "proof" against. >>
Because at some point it's diminishing returns. Arod and his team could fight this and maybe get it reduced to 100 games; but at what cost? Both in time and in money. He already got it reduced from 211 to 162 - that's significant. Arod will lose a year of salary, which is a great deal, but Arod can sit there, take a year off, get into the best shape of his life, and come back next year ready to play for another contract.
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I truly don't understand this "head buried in the sand" phenomenon when it comes to ARod. If there really is no "proof", why did the arbitrator give him the stiffest PED sentence in MLB history? Even more compelling, why was every player that the MLB finally decided to pursue, willing to so quickly agree to their suspensions, including a perpetual liar like Ryan Braun? OBVIOUSLY, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, even though the public hasn't been privy to it. Otherwise, it's OBVIOUS that these players would not have rolled over, nor the arbitrator willing to hand down such a stiff penalty for ARod, whom I presume there is by far the most amount of "proof" against. >>
Because at some point it's diminishing returns. Arod and his team could fight this and maybe get it reduced to 100 games; but at what cost? Both in time and in money. He already got it reduced from 211 to 162 - that's significant. Arod will lose a year of salary, which is a great deal, but Arod can sit there, take a year off, get into the best shape of his life, and come back next year ready to play for another contract. >>
If Arod gets another contract (no way) then Pizza & Beers on me
<< <i> Arod can sit there, take a year off, get into the best shape of his life, and come back next year ready to play for another contract. >>
Anyone know if Arod is exempt from PED testing during his suspension?
<< <i>I truly don't understand this "head buried in the sand" phenomenon when it comes to ARod. If there really is no "proof", why did the arbitrator give him the stiffest PED sentence in MLB history? Even more compelling, why was every player that the MLB finally decided to pursue, willing to so quickly agree to their suspensions, including a perpetual liar like Ryan Braun? OBVIOUSLY, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, even though the public hasn't been privy to it. Otherwise, it's OBVIOUS that these players would not have rolled over, nor the arbitrator willing to hand down such a stiff penalty for ARod, whom I presume there is by far the most amount of "proof" against. >>
This looks like a good argument to me.
Let's just continue to hope that MLB doesn't (or hasn't already) screw things up, and the court system agrees the suspension is fair.
Unless someone is willing to give in, this is far from over. Any people with actual legal knowledge have an idea of how long it could take for Arod's appeal in Federal court? Will Arod be allowed to play during the proceedings?
Facts, just the facts please.
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If Arod gets another contract (no way) then Pizza & Beers on me
You honestly think there won't be at least one team out there who would sign him to a contract after next year? If Raul Ibanez can still get work at age 43, Arod certainly will.
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If Arod gets another contract (no way) then Pizza & Beers on me
You honestly think there won't be at least one team out there who would sign him to a contract after next year? If Raul Ibanez can still get work at age 43, Arod certainly will. >>
Ibanez can perform actually.
There is better use of your money at this point than to sign ARod unless he is willing to take a huge paycut.
The next generation has taken over.
And I wasnt kidding when I say the Yankees should save up for Mike Trout for when he is available, Trout's contract will be the largest deal in MLB history.
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I truly don't understand this "head buried in the sand" phenomenon when it comes to ARod. If there really is no "proof", why did the arbitrator give him the stiffest PED sentence in MLB history? Even more compelling, why was every player that the MLB finally decided to pursue, willing to so quickly agree to their suspensions, including a perpetual liar like Ryan Braun? OBVIOUSLY, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, even though the public hasn't been privy to it. Otherwise, it's OBVIOUS that these players would not have rolled over, nor the arbitrator willing to hand down such a stiff penalty for ARod, whom I presume there is by far the most amount of "proof" against. >>
Because at some point it's diminishing returns. Arod and his team could fight this and maybe get it reduced to 100 games; but at what cost? Both in time and in money. He already got it reduced from 211 to 162 - that's significant. Arod will lose a year of salary, which is a great deal, but Arod can sit there, take a year off, get into the best shape of his life, and come back next year ready to play for another contract. >>
What the heck does any of what you wrote have anything to do with the "proof" aspect? >>
Who said there wasn't any proof? It's obvious there's some evidence, but if MLB had the 'overwhelming' evidence it claims it has, it would have pushed for and gotten the lifetime ban Buddy boy so desperately wanted. Let's also not forget that MLB bought their 'star' witness, a witness MLB first sought to sue into obsolescence. MLB's case is tenuous at best, which is why it's being appealed at the federal level and why Arod will be allowed to attend spring training.
By the way I love the delusional yankee fans who think they have a realistic shot at Trout. It's as if they are living in an alternate reality, where no other team has the same financial means they once had exclusive domain over.
But on the topic, I'm a big Arod fan through whatever he has done. He's fun to watch. Everyone is saying good riddance but I'd rather see him at third than....I actually can't remember the players who combined for 3 home runs and barely over .200 average last year. Oh well I hope to see him, and in NY in 2015
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This made me laugh.
As for chances of signing him? The Yankees will only know but i'm willing to bet they plan for it years ahead.
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As for Trout, if he makes it to free agency, and the Yankees want him badly enough, I don't see any team that would have any better chance unless he hates the Yankees or New York so I'm not sure where you moronically get off stating they have no "realistic shot". If it were the Mariners you were talking about, well then, I would agree with you. >>
More delusion. The days of the Yankees being the only team with unlimited resources in regards to payroll are long gone. No one is going to give up living in Southern California to go play on the east coast, let alone NY, what with its miserable fans who think winning is a birthright.
<< <i>Do I think ANYONE is clean .. no .. that's why this suspension is ridiculous. >>
Last week, we all learned that Frank Thomas was absolutely, positively clean.
But they are worried about who might/did/will take PED's.
I think if they concentrated on the items on top, baseball would be much better than worrying so much about line 2.
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<< <i>he'd rather sign baseballs in the dugout and give them to teenage girls in the stands, rather then pay attention to what his team is doing and strive to get better and get out of his slump. >>
It's baseballs (plural) now? There's no proof at all that he even did it once, and he said he didn't. These supposed girls didn't look like teenagers, either. Steroids or not, he's a hard worker by all accounts. Do you really think that hitting slumps are always caused by not working hard? >>
I truly don't understand this "head buried in the sand" phenomenon when it comes to ARod. If there really is no "proof", why did the arbitrator give him the stiffest PED sentence in MLB history? Even more compelling, why was every player that the MLB finally decided to pursue, willing to so quickly agree to their suspensions, including a perpetual liar like Ryan Braun? OBVIOUSLY, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, even though the public hasn't been privy to it. Otherwise, it's OBVIOUS that these players would not have rolled over, nor the arbitrator willing to hand down such a stiff penalty for ARod, whom I presume there is by far the most amount of "proof" against. >>
I was only talking about the alleged incident with the women at the game, not steroids.
<< <i>Jeter is a class act, more young guys need to follow his lead on how to act on and off the field. He will also be extremely missed when he does retire. The only thing with Jeter is he's a boring monotone talker lol. His interviews make me drowsy at times. Would love to see Mike Trout on the team. >>
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As for Trout, if he makes it to free agency, and the Yankees want him badly enough, I don't see any team that would have any better chance unless he hates the Yankees or New York so I'm not sure where you moronically get off stating they have no "realistic shot". If it were the Mariners you were talking about, well then, I would agree with you. >>
More delusion. The days of the Yankees being the only team with unlimited resources in regards to payroll are long gone. No one is going to give up living in Southern California to go play on the east coast, let alone NY, what with its miserable fans who think winning is a birthright. >>
Geez. Bitter much??? >>
Says the guy who thinks that it's his team's right to the best of the best players, without realizing the days of the yankees having the most financial flexibility and ability to spend are long gone. I guess I would be bitter too if my one advantage had been taken away, and my team's best player signed away as well.
<< <i>Once again who cares. Baseball has umpires that can't see. Don't use replay. Can't get the stadiums half full. Games are too long, slow and boring.
But they are worried about who might/did/will take PED's.
I think if they concentrated on the items on top, baseball would be much better than worrying so much about line 2. >>
3 out of 30 teams had an average attendance below 50% of capacity.
22 of 30 were over 60%, and half the league filled stadiums at close to 75% and above.
But hyperbole is a lot more fun than facts, so carry on.
<< <i>Why are people wondering if Alex will get another contact? He's under contract till 2017 already. >>
I thought he was only under contract through 2015, so that was likely my fault. What is being questioned apparently over at ESPN is if he'd play again, which I don't understand. He played last year, he'll have a year off to get 100% healthy. ESPN trying to speculate that his career is over seems a bit over the top, IMO.
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As for Trout, his contract isn't going to be another $150-200M deal, it will be in the stratosphere of $350-$400M if he stays healthy. Only a very few teams, the Yanks being one of them, will have the money to compete. And the Mariners, NOT. Yet another reason for you to stew in your bitterness. >>
They just bought your best player for $240 million, and they have a new TV deal that is pumping hundreds of millions into the team. It's comical to see yankee fans like you overreacting to the landscape of baseball changing away from the yankees having the payroll advantage over every other team.
You keep bringing up the Mariners. Bitter than Cano, your BEST player, told the Yanks to get lost and went to Seattle? I thought so!
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Agree with it or not, this is one of the main perspectives. That the Yankees will cut him eventually rather than let him back on the club. That other teams, even though could have him for a song, will stay away, as they did with Bonds. >>
You'd have to be completely oblivious of how the world works if you think for a second the yankees would cut anyone owed $60 million.
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Once again, grinning from ear to ear about redeploying the $25M offer to Cano. Couldn't be happier.
It's comical to see Mariners fans continuing to be delusional. >>
What's comical is how unhinged you and yankee fans like you get over the idea that someone would choose Seattle over NY. How bitter you obviously are that there's a chance the best days of the yankees are long gone. How bitter that your team no longer has the pick of the litter. How bitter that the one advantage the team had (money) is no longer their sole domain.
Welcome to 2014, where plenty of teams have gobs of month to throw around, and the yankees still don't have a farm system.
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You'd have to be completely oblivious of how the world works if you think we are dealing with a prime productive well liked player. >>
Nobody is suggesting he's either well like in NY or in his prime, but throwing away $30 million a year is something, not even the mighty Yankees can afford to do.
<< <i> Teams are packaging tens of millions to get rid of productive players in their prime and you think that the Yankees will blink twice if that is what they decide to do. >>
Who are these players in their prime that teams are cutting loose to save on payroll?
<< <i> There was even talk about it during this past year when the Biogensis story broke but there was no benefit to doing it then. Now that they are off the hook for the 2014 payments and luxury tax hit, it's more than a distinct possibility. Just because it bothers YOU doesn't mean that the real world cares. >>
It seems to bother you a lot more than it does me. The funniest thing? Even after a year long suspension, the Yankees still owe Arod $60+ million.
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Who are these players in their prime that teams are cutting loose to save on payroll? >>
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Prince Fielder anyone? >>