<< <i>This has been an entertaining thread so far. Have read some very insightful posts, as well as some very narrow minded ones IMHO. As a minority in the USA, I’ve experienced profiling, racism, and all kinds of other nonsense in my years. Have personally watched my dad get pulled over with me in the car when I was a boy, and watched him get put into the pavement for doing nothing more than being a Mexican man driving in an El Camino with his son (yes, I realize that fits a lot of stereotypes, but I’m not ashamed of that, and for those that think he must have done something to deserve that, he didn’t, I was sitting right beside him and heard everything) Have been in many a store as I got older with some of my Caucasian friends, and guess who got followed around on multiple occasions because the owner(s) was/were afraid the minority was going to steal (Hint, it wasn’t the Caucasians lol) . However, I turned out alright and quite frankly they were character building events that helped make me into a fairly level headed man, and actually made me want to strive to treat people of all races relatively the same.
In my opinion, if the ownership group or sole owner or whatever, wants to name his/their team the Washington Redskins (or borrowing my friend Rob's cartoon, the Washington Wetbacks for that matter), so be it. This is the USA and in this great country, that’s his privilege. By the same token, if Native Americans, or Mexicans want to protest that, so be it, that’s their prerogative as well. Just because some want to make it an absolute one way or the other, and type things akin to you either go against the name or you are a flaming racist, or you either support the name or you are against the privileges of Americans to do certain things with their own property, is equally absurd on both sides of the fence as far as I’m concerned.
Personally, I wouldn’t be overly offended if someone wanted to name their youth teams whatever, doesn’t mean I would like it, and doesn’t mean I wouldn’t think it was in poor taste either, but I would support their ability to do it, while at the same time tell them I personally thought they were a dumb… Would it hurt a bit inside? Perhaps, but I’d get over it pretty quickly.
To believe that the name doesn’t offend some, is basically being ostrich like (no offense intended to ostriches, and yes, I know they don’t actually do that except to dig), sticking your head in the sand with nothing but your dumb… sticking up. But, I support your privilege to believe that.
And as a member of a race that is frequently discriminated against, I choose to just let the chip fall right off of my shoulder and live my life without really giving a hoot what someone thinks about my race for the most part. Have actually found over the years that most people discriminate more against those that are of a different wage bracket than they are, as opposed to race, but no reason to digress into that.
Doesn’t mean I haven’t taken offense to someone that says something against my race and I called their hand on it, as I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me at all, but it’s really no different a feeling inside from when someone would call me four eyes, big nose, fat ... whatever, an insult is an insult, and in this Country, thank God, people are free to be ignorant within fairly reasonable restraints. I wouldn’t want it any other way, God bless the USA! >>
Good job Mike. Sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you. Thank God America has men like you who can turn the other cheek and let things roll off your shoulder.
Plus, football teams like to name themselves after something or someone that was relentless.
A Bengal is relentless when on the attack. The Patriots were relentless in their fight for freedom. The Raiders were relentless. A bear can be relentless when protecting it's cub. The 49ers were relentless in their pursuit for gold. A Jaguar is relentless when hungry. A Falcon is relentless in protecting it's young. A cowboy was a hard working, relentless man. And a Redskin was known as a relentless, never say die warrior.
The team owner named the team after a Native American out of respect, not out of racist intentions. That is clearly documented.
Mike has painted a clear picture of how this should be perceived. Careful though Mike, if you hang around this thread long enough, you'll start to be called a bigot and racist for saying that it's ok for Dan Snyder to call his team the Redskins.
What's hilarious is you think that's an insult. But back on topic. Back to explaining why you think rich white dudes should be allowed to continue to use racist terms to identify their football team. >>
<< <i>This has been an entertaining thread so far. Have read some very insightful posts, as well as some very narrow minded ones IMHO. As a minority in the USA, I’ve experienced profiling, racism, and all kinds of other nonsense in my years. Have personally watched my dad get pulled over with me in the car when I was a boy, and watched him get put into the pavement for doing nothing more than being a Mexican man driving in an El Camino with his son (yes, I realize that fits a lot of stereotypes, but I’m not ashamed of that, and for those that think he must have done something to deserve that, he didn’t, I was sitting right beside him and heard everything) Have been in many a store as I got older with some of my Caucasian friends, and guess who got followed around on multiple occasions because the owner(s) was/were afraid the minority was going to steal (Hint, it wasn’t the Caucasians lol) . However, I turned out alright and quite frankly they were character building events that helped make me into a fairly level headed man, and actually made me want to strive to treat people of all races relatively the same.
In my opinion, if the ownership group or sole owner or whatever, wants to name his/their team the Washington Redskins (or borrowing my friend Rob's cartoon, the Washington Wetbacks for that matter), so be it. This is the USA and in this great country, that’s his privilege. By the same token, if Native Americans, or Mexicans want to protest that, so be it, that’s their prerogative as well. Just because some want to make it an absolute one way or the other, and type things akin to you either go against the name or you are a flaming racist, or you either support the name or you are against the privileges of Americans to do certain things with their own property, is equally absurd on both sides of the fence as far as I’m concerned.
Personally, I wouldn’t be overly offended if someone wanted to name their youth teams whatever, doesn’t mean I would like it, and doesn’t mean I wouldn’t think it was in poor taste either, but I would support their ability to do it, while at the same time tell them I personally thought they were a dumb… Would it hurt a bit inside? Perhaps, but I’d get over it pretty quickly.
To believe that the name doesn’t offend some, is basically being ostrich like (no offense intended to ostriches, and yes, I know they don’t actually do that except to dig), sticking your head in the sand with nothing but your dumb… sticking up. But, I support your privilege to believe that.
And as a member of a race that is frequently discriminated against, I choose to just let the chip fall right off of my shoulder and live my life without really giving a hoot what someone thinks about my race for the most part. Have actually found over the years that most people discriminate more against those that are of a different wage bracket than they are, as opposed to race, but no reason to digress into that.
Doesn’t mean I haven’t taken offense to someone that says something against my race and I called their hand on it, as I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me at all, but it’s really no different a feeling inside from when someone would call me four eyes, big nose, fat ... whatever, an insult is an insult, and in this Country, thank God, people are free to be ignorant within fairly reasonable restraints. I wouldn’t want it any other way, God bless the USA! >>
Governor or Senator Navarro has a nice ring to it. If you ever run, you've got my vote.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>I am waiting for the day that the defenders, the actual people, of native mascots decide to name one of their community little league or pop warner football teams after another race instead of Indians and honor them too because they deserve it. The honorers of racist mascots can dress up like them, portray the stereotypes of them to the nth degree and see the outrage that would come their way. Name your team with a non-racist term like Kings after MLK. In the mean time, be sure to dress up like him (black paint necessary if you are white), imitate his speeches to others, includes aspects of religion in here as many deeply spiritual experiences are basically ridiculed by others when in a sports context, and do nothing but honor the team and I am sure you will be making the news in no time. You could literally be on ABC, NBC, CBS all of them.....and I am sure you would be known as the town racist or bigot and people and/or businesses would want to distance themselves from you, to not be associated with you, and depending where you work fired or on ad min leave. Yet it is perfectly okay for mascots to happen to native people, why? >>
Please send me any phone number Edmund via PM as I am attending a Native Wellness Training in San Diego at the moment. You can view their website on the web. Anyhow, I am in one class of about sixty people right now and you can ask each person on their view of the term used in this survey or just call them the name on the phone to see the reaction you will get. I got the okay and our class of Natives are willing to talk to you tomorrow. I think you would be quite surprised if you truly believe the numbers above. Of course, these are a lot of educated Indians so you may simply dismiss it and chose to "survey" other Indians to come up with the numbers you cited above. I also have a theory on why some Natives may be okay with the term but that is for another post. Hope you can carve out a little time for us. My best. Rob >>
Again, as for the 'right' to name his team that, of course it is his right. That is NOT the argument. He could name it what he wants...but that doesn't change the fact that it IS offensive. Yet, you guys argue that it is not offensive, but cannot answer to Wrestlingcardkings' posts showing why it is.
The above quote is a request from Wrestlingcardking. All of his questions(and cartoon montage) have gone unanswered by the defenders...and the defenders have done nothing but put forth ridiculous comparisons, and/or flat out imbecile comments and beliefs(such as that ridiculously bad 90% study). I understand WHY his questions go unanswered, because answering them will expose their hypocrisy, being a bigot, or just being flat out wrong...none of which people like to be.
Above is an opportunity to talk to some of the guys, and get a better perspective on things, instead of just making things up.
<< <i> Good job Mike. Sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you. >>
Says the white guy who's never had to endure racist taunts, yet relishes in the opportunity to use racial slurs to identify a pro football team.
<< <i>Thank God America has men like you who can turn the other cheek and let things roll off your shoulder. >>
Again, I think if you were a minority instead of white, you would think much differently.
<< <i>Plus, football teams like to name themselves after something or someone that was relentless. >>
What are you talking about?
<< <i>A Bengal is relentless when on the attack. The Patriots were relentless in their fight for freedom. The Raiders were relentless. A bear can be relentless when protecting it's cub. The 49ers were relentless in their pursuit for gold. A Jaguar is relentless when hungry. A Falcon is relentless in protecting it's young. A cowboy was a hard working, relentless man. And a Redskin was known as a relentless, never say die warrior. >>
You are so desperate to be correct in this debate, you've gone off the deep end. Seriously, I would suggest you go seek some professional therapy, because you are full on crazy mode right now. Throw in the fact you've created no less than 3 threads on this same topic, continue to reach the depths of the internet trying to back your idea that using racist terms is somehow ok, and now this?
<< <i>The team owner named the team after a Native American out of respect, not out of racist intentions. >>
Respect? Using a mascot of a conquered race is out of 'respect'? Using a disparaging, racist slur as a team name is out of 'respect'? If that's the case, I'm sure you're ok if some team wanted to name themselves the 'Yellowskins' or 'Blackskins' aren't you? Again, for the hard of hearing, IDENTIFYING A GROUP OF PEOPLE BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN IS RACIST. I don't know how many times that single, valid point can be restated, but it's facts. You wouldn't go up to a group of Native Americans and say 'what's up, Redskins!' Just as you wouldn't go up to a group of any race of identify them by their skin color. By doing so you are not 'respecting them', you're not even seeing them as people, but identifying them ONLY by their skin color, and doing so to differentiate that group from you! The fact that fitz and the other defenders of racist terminology are completely unable to grasp is mind-boggling.
<< <i>That is clearly documented. >>
Clearly documented where?
<< <i>Mike has painted a clear picture of how this should be perceived. >>
Because you agree with him? There's no shortage of people who (a) agree with me, and (b) Native American leadership is on record as saying the name offends them. This leadership, which represents hundreds of tribes from across the country, is calling for the change to happen. I will link it again.. I will even quote it again, just so people like fitz, who suffer from the inability to grasp anything that doesn't agree with their false and racist notions:
"The National Congress of American Indians, which counts among its membership hundreds of tribes from all over the country*, has released this video featuring seven elected tribal leaders, two of them national officials, speaking out against Washington's use of "Redskins" as a team name."
End of story. Not some old, out of date, and completely flawed phone survey of self-identifying Native Americans. Not some white guy paying a spokesman to regurgitate his talking points. These folks represent REAL, HONEST Native Americans. They want the name changed. They (like many of us here) find it offensive and racist in tone. Using the term 'Redskin' to identify a sports team is not out of 'respect', its to make a caricature of an entire race, period. You can continue to sit there and stew in your bigoted and racist mindset, but the FACTS remain: the term 'Redskin' was never, EVER used out of respect or to identify Native Americans as anything positive. The fact that you continue to persist in this foolish and desperate ploy is pathetic.
This thread has wandered far away from the topic contained in the thread title.
With respect to the spirited discussion about the team name Washington Redskins it seems that:
1. Some posters believe that it is appropriate that those who object to the word "Redskins" should be able to compel the team and its owner (against the owner's will) to change the name of the team to something other than "Redskins"; and
2. Some posters believe that it is not appropriate that those who object to the word "Redskins" should be able to compel the team and its owner (against the owner's will) to change the name of the team to something other than "Redskins".
Let the discussion continue, and while it does perhaps the posters can also state what they believe the Sports Topic Of The Year is.
I expect that the name "The Fighting Langbords" would offend someone.
Isn't the name "The Fighting Irish" offensive?
I am sure that not all people of Irish Heritage would agree that the Notre Dame football team nickname should be "The Fighting Irish" and would take umbrage at the use of the name. Maybe Notre Dame should simply change the name so as not to give offense.
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<< <i>This has been an entertaining thread so far. Have read some very insightful posts, as well as some very narrow minded ones IMHO. As a minority in the USA, I’ve experienced profiling, racism, and all kinds of other nonsense in my years. Have personally watched my dad get pulled over with me in the car when I was a boy, and watched him get put into the pavement for doing nothing more than being a Mexican man driving in an El Camino with his son (yes, I realize that fits a lot of stereotypes, but I’m not ashamed of that, and for those that think he must have done something to deserve that, he didn’t, I was sitting right beside him and heard everything) Have been in many a store as I got older with some of my Caucasian friends, and guess who got followed around on multiple occasions because the owner(s) was/were afraid the minority was going to steal (Hint, it wasn’t the Caucasians lol) . However, I turned out alright and quite frankly they were character building events that helped make me into a fairly level headed man, and actually made me want to strive to treat people of all races relatively the same.
In my opinion, if the ownership group or sole owner or whatever, wants to name his/their team the Washington Redskins (or borrowing my friend Rob's cartoon, the Washington Wetbacks for that matter), so be it. This is the USA and in this great country, that’s his privilege. By the same token, if Native Americans, or Mexicans want to protest that, so be it, that’s their prerogative as well. Just because some want to make it an absolute one way or the other, and type things akin to you either go against the name or you are a flaming racist, or you either support the name or you are against the privileges of Americans to do certain things with their own property, is equally absurd on both sides of the fence as far as I’m concerned.
Personally, I wouldn’t be overly offended if someone wanted to name their youth teams whatever, doesn’t mean I would like it, and doesn’t mean I wouldn’t think it was in poor taste either, but I would support their ability to do it, while at the same time tell them I personally thought they were a dumb… Would it hurt a bit inside? Perhaps, but I’d get over it pretty quickly.
To believe that the name doesn’t offend some, is basically being ostrich like (no offense intended to ostriches, and yes, I know they don’t actually do that except to dig), sticking your head in the sand with nothing but your dumb… sticking up. But, I support your privilege to believe that.
And as a member of a race that is frequently discriminated against, I choose to just let the chip fall right off of my shoulder and live my life without really giving a hoot what someone thinks about my race for the most part. Have actually found over the years that most people discriminate more against those that are of a different wage bracket than they are, as opposed to race, but no reason to digress into that.
Doesn’t mean I haven’t taken offense to someone that says something against my race and I called their hand on it, as I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me at all, but it’s really no different a feeling inside from when someone would call me four eyes, big nose, fat ... whatever, an insult is an insult, and in this Country, thank God, people are free to be ignorant within fairly reasonable restraints. I wouldn’t want it any other way, God bless the USA! >>
Good job Mike. Sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you.
Thank God America has men like you who can turn the other cheek and let things roll off your shoulder.
Plus, football teams like to name themselves after something or someone that was relentless.
A Bengal is relentless when on the attack.
The Patriots were relentless in their fight for freedom.
The Raiders were relentless.
A bear can be relentless when protecting it's cub.
The 49ers were relentless in their pursuit for gold.
A Jaguar is relentless when hungry.
A Falcon is relentless in protecting it's young.
A cowboy was a hard working, relentless man.
And a Redskin was known as a relentless, never say die warrior.
The team owner named the team after a Native American out of respect, not out of racist intentions.
That is clearly documented.
Mike has painted a clear picture of how this should be perceived.
Careful though Mike, if you hang around this thread long enough, you'll start to be called a bigot and racist for saying that it's ok for Dan Snyder to call his team the Redskins.
What's hilarious is you think that's an insult. But back on topic. Back to explaining why you think rich white dudes should be allowed to continue to use racist terms to identify their football team. >>
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<< <i>This has been an entertaining thread so far. Have read some very insightful posts, as well as some very narrow minded ones IMHO. As a minority in the USA, I’ve experienced profiling, racism, and all kinds of other nonsense in my years. Have personally watched my dad get pulled over with me in the car when I was a boy, and watched him get put into the pavement for doing nothing more than being a Mexican man driving in an El Camino with his son (yes, I realize that fits a lot of stereotypes, but I’m not ashamed of that, and for those that think he must have done something to deserve that, he didn’t, I was sitting right beside him and heard everything) Have been in many a store as I got older with some of my Caucasian friends, and guess who got followed around on multiple occasions because the owner(s) was/were afraid the minority was going to steal (Hint, it wasn’t the Caucasians lol) . However, I turned out alright and quite frankly they were character building events that helped make me into a fairly level headed man, and actually made me want to strive to treat people of all races relatively the same.
In my opinion, if the ownership group or sole owner or whatever, wants to name his/their team the Washington Redskins (or borrowing my friend Rob's cartoon, the Washington Wetbacks for that matter), so be it. This is the USA and in this great country, that’s his privilege. By the same token, if Native Americans, or Mexicans want to protest that, so be it, that’s their prerogative as well. Just because some want to make it an absolute one way or the other, and type things akin to you either go against the name or you are a flaming racist, or you either support the name or you are against the privileges of Americans to do certain things with their own property, is equally absurd on both sides of the fence as far as I’m concerned.
Personally, I wouldn’t be overly offended if someone wanted to name their youth teams whatever, doesn’t mean I would like it, and doesn’t mean I wouldn’t think it was in poor taste either, but I would support their ability to do it, while at the same time tell them I personally thought they were a dumb… Would it hurt a bit inside? Perhaps, but I’d get over it pretty quickly.
To believe that the name doesn’t offend some, is basically being ostrich like (no offense intended to ostriches, and yes, I know they don’t actually do that except to dig), sticking your head in the sand with nothing but your dumb… sticking up. But, I support your privilege to believe that.
And as a member of a race that is frequently discriminated against, I choose to just let the chip fall right off of my shoulder and live my life without really giving a hoot what someone thinks about my race for the most part. Have actually found over the years that most people discriminate more against those that are of a different wage bracket than they are, as opposed to race, but no reason to digress into that.
Doesn’t mean I haven’t taken offense to someone that says something against my race and I called their hand on it, as I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me at all, but it’s really no different a feeling inside from when someone would call me four eyes, big nose, fat ... whatever, an insult is an insult, and in this Country, thank God, people are free to be ignorant within fairly reasonable restraints. I wouldn’t want it any other way, God bless the USA! >>
Governor or Senator Navarro has a nice ring to it. If you ever run, you've got my vote.
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<< <i>I am waiting for the day that the defenders, the actual people, of native mascots decide to name one of their community little league or pop warner football teams after another race instead of Indians and honor them too because they deserve it. The honorers of racist mascots can dress up like them, portray the stereotypes of them to the nth degree and see the outrage that would come their way. Name your team with a non-racist term like Kings after MLK. In the mean time, be sure to dress up like him (black paint necessary if you are white), imitate his speeches to others, includes aspects of religion in here as many deeply spiritual experiences are basically ridiculed by others when in a sports context, and do nothing but honor the team and I am sure you will be making the news in no time. You could literally be on ABC, NBC, CBS all of them.....and I am sure you would be known as the town racist or bigot and people and/or businesses would want to distance themselves from you, to not be associated with you, and depending where you work fired or on ad min leave. Yet it is perfectly okay for mascots to happen to native people, why? >>
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<< <i>CBS Sports Poll - 2013...........90% of Native Americans say it's not offensive, and they even name their own schools Redskins !!!!!!!! >>
Please send me any phone number Edmund via PM as I am attending a Native Wellness Training in San Diego at the moment. You can view their website on the web. Anyhow, I am in one class of about sixty people right now and you can ask each person on their view of the term used in this survey or just call them the name on the phone to see the reaction you will get. I got the okay and our class of Natives are willing to talk to you tomorrow. I think you would be quite surprised if you truly believe the numbers above. Of course, these are a lot of educated Indians so you may simply dismiss it and chose to "survey" other Indians to come up with the numbers you cited above. I also have a theory on why some Natives may be okay with the term but that is for another post. Hope you can carve out a little time for us. My best. Rob >>
Again, as for the 'right' to name his team that, of course it is his right. That is NOT the argument. He could name it what he wants...but that doesn't change the fact that it IS offensive. Yet, you guys argue that it is not offensive, but cannot answer to Wrestlingcardkings' posts showing why it is.
The above quote is a request from Wrestlingcardking. All of his questions(and cartoon montage) have gone unanswered by the defenders...and the defenders have done nothing but put forth ridiculous comparisons, and/or flat out imbecile comments and beliefs(such as that ridiculously bad 90% study). I understand WHY his questions go unanswered, because answering them will expose their hypocrisy, being a bigot, or just being flat out wrong...none of which people like to be.
Above is an opportunity to talk to some of the guys, and get a better perspective on things, instead of just making things up.
<< <i>
Good job Mike. Sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you. >>
Says the white guy who's never had to endure racist taunts, yet relishes in the opportunity to use racial slurs to identify a pro football team.
<< <i>Thank God America has men like you who can turn the other cheek and let things roll off your shoulder. >>
Again, I think if you were a minority instead of white, you would think much differently.
<< <i>Plus, football teams like to name themselves after something or someone that was relentless. >>
What are you talking about?
<< <i>A Bengal is relentless when on the attack.
The Patriots were relentless in their fight for freedom.
The Raiders were relentless.
A bear can be relentless when protecting it's cub.
The 49ers were relentless in their pursuit for gold.
A Jaguar is relentless when hungry.
A Falcon is relentless in protecting it's young.
A cowboy was a hard working, relentless man.
And a Redskin was known as a relentless, never say die warrior. >>
You are so desperate to be correct in this debate, you've gone off the deep end. Seriously, I would suggest you go seek some professional therapy, because you are full on crazy mode right now. Throw in the fact you've created no less than 3 threads on this same topic, continue to reach the depths of the internet trying to back your idea that using racist terms is somehow ok, and now this?
<< <i>The team owner named the team after a Native American out of respect, not out of racist intentions. >>
Respect? Using a mascot of a conquered race is out of 'respect'? Using a disparaging, racist slur as a team name is out of 'respect'? If that's the case, I'm sure you're ok if some team wanted to name themselves the 'Yellowskins' or 'Blackskins' aren't you? Again, for the hard of hearing, IDENTIFYING A GROUP OF PEOPLE BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN IS RACIST. I don't know how many times that single, valid point can be restated, but it's facts. You wouldn't go up to a group of Native Americans and say 'what's up, Redskins!' Just as you wouldn't go up to a group of any race of identify them by their skin color. By doing so you are not 'respecting them', you're not even seeing them as people, but identifying them ONLY by their skin color, and doing so to differentiate that group from you! The fact that fitz and the other defenders of racist terminology are completely unable to grasp is mind-boggling.
<< <i>That is clearly documented. >>
Clearly documented where?
<< <i>Mike has painted a clear picture of how this should be perceived. >>
Because you agree with him? There's no shortage of people who (a) agree with me, and (b) Native American leadership is on record as saying the name offends them. This leadership, which represents hundreds of tribes from across the country, is calling for the change to happen. I will link it again.. I will even quote it again, just so people like fitz, who suffer from the inability to grasp anything that doesn't agree with their false and racist notions:
"The National Congress of American Indians, which counts among its membership hundreds of tribes from all over the country*, has released this video featuring seven elected tribal leaders, two of them national officials, speaking out against Washington's use of "Redskins" as a team name."
End of story. Not some old, out of date, and completely flawed phone survey of self-identifying Native Americans. Not some white guy paying a spokesman to regurgitate his talking points. These folks represent REAL, HONEST Native Americans. They want the name changed. They (like many of us here) find it offensive and racist in tone. Using the term 'Redskin' to identify a sports team is not out of 'respect', its to make a caricature of an entire race, period. You can continue to sit there and stew in your bigoted and racist mindset, but the FACTS remain: the term 'Redskin' was never, EVER used out of respect or to identify Native Americans as anything positive. The fact that you continue to persist in this foolish and desperate ploy is pathetic.
edited for brackets.
With respect to the spirited discussion about the team name Washington Redskins it seems that:
1. Some posters believe that it is appropriate that those who object to the word "Redskins" should be able to compel the team and its owner (against the owner's will) to change the name of the team to something other than "Redskins"; and
2. Some posters believe that it is not appropriate that those who object to the word "Redskins" should be able to compel the team and its owner (against the owner's will) to change the name of the team to something other than "Redskins".
Let the discussion continue, and while it does perhaps the posters can also state what they believe the Sports Topic Of The Year is.
<< <i>
Again, as for the 'right' to name his team that, of course it is his right. . >>
Whoever posted this is a smart guy. Kudos to whoever wrote this !
Isn't the name "The Fighting Irish" offensive?
I am sure that not all people of Irish Heritage would agree that the Notre Dame football team nickname should be "The Fighting Irish" and would take umbrage at the use of the name. Maybe Notre Dame should simply change the name so as not to give offense.