Best holder for proof sets after opening.
blacksmoke
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I have a few different proof sets that I am dying to cut open. Through the plastic, I can tell they're gems and want to look at them without looking through the plastic. They're some older flat packs. I know there are several different holders for them. Anyone had luck with one over the other or know of which ones to stay completely away from? Or is cutting something like that open taboo?
Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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I say this only because I make them.
Regards, Larry
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Regards, Larry
Whitman brand plastic snap holders are cheaper, but not nearly as nice as the Capital holders.
There aren't that many other alternatives if a person wants to have the entire set in a single holder.
There are a wide variety of single coin holders ranging from Air-Tites to snap plastic holders, down to cardboard 2x2s.
jeff
These were nice.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
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<< <i>I've seen those slabbed sets. They're great. Is it about the same cost per coin in the long run to have a set slabbed? >>
<< <i>does NGC require you submit in the flatpack? or does it not matter? >>
NGC dropped these a year or so ago. I don't think PCGS does these anymore either. Shame.
I never submitted for one of these so I don't know the cost comparison or submission protocol. Sorry.
But they are cool.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
1)very bulky
2) not airtight
3) hard to evaluate grades without dissassembly
4) despite their cost, when you go to sell sets housed in CAP-PLAS you usually get lowball offers because
a] most folks want "original" (as issued)
b] many sets in CAP-PLAS have seen some mishandling of the coins and exhibit more hairlines than average.
you might use a hard plastic holder see RedTigers post above
I wouldn't open the holder once its in as they are very prone to hairline
jeff
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
1)very bulky
Flat Pack Sets are flimsy and most envelopes(OGP) are in bad shape or aftermarket, keeping them intact and safe is difficult.
2) not airtight
there are enough threads about holes in the cello and broken seams in the OGP to negate this.
3) hard to evaluate grades without disassembly
with either one you can grade accurately if they are stored well.
4) despite their cost, when you go to sell sets housed in CAP-PLAS you usually get lowball offers because
a] most folks want "original" (as issued)
b] many sets in CAP-PLAS have seen some mishandling of the coins and exhibit more hairlines than average
the coins will sell themselves if you're selling to a collector, if you're selling to a dealer you'll be lucky to get bid no matter what the coins are stored in or what they look like.
I think it's sort of telling when you consider that the OGP eventually changed to become Capital Plastic-esque at the end of the 1960's after a brief fling with Whitman-it is during the SMS years. the old Box Sets with their pliofilm and the newer flat pack cello medium just isn't a viable long term way to store coins and keep them safe. also, despite the negative aspects you outlined there is a positive attribute that the Capital type holder offers-----a collector can assemble the coins of his choice in the set, not limited to what often amounts to inferior Mint issues included in the original set.
jeff
With respect to selling coins in Capital holders, it is true that dealers view these holders and the coins therein as Widgets and thus will offer far less than bid for them, you simply do not have to sell to dealers. If your coins in these holders are really the cream of the crop (i.e. 5 gem+ DCAM proof coins from 1950), you should have them slabbed before you sell them. The extra added expense of slabbing them will be recovered many times over from the proceeds of a sale of a slabbed coin to a collector.
I have used Capital holders over the years to house CAM and DCAM proof and SMS coins that I find one by one while hunting in the wild. Be they five coin single year proof set holders, a single coin holder or a series holder (i.e. Peace Dollar, Circulation strike Franklin half dollar or Proof Franklin half dollar holders), or a custom ordered holder (i.e. State Of Nevada CC Morgan Dollar, or 1936-1964 Proof sets holder), these holders are fun to play with and use as you find just the right coin to fill a hole (that you beam over until you find an upgrade coin, in which case the prior coin is replaced without any remorse).
The aspect of Capital holders that I least like is the screw fasteners. Since the ends of the fasteners lie on top of and above the surface of the two clear outer sandwich layers of plastic, these holders do not stack easily or well. If you stack them they will fall down. The also take up additional storage space because of this.
I wish that a Capital style holder could be produced with a design that allows the ends of the fasteners to be flat and to lie flat and even with the surface of the two clear outer sandwich layers of plastic. This would require that the design allow for a recess in the clear plastic in which the ends of the screw components can fit. This type of design would allow the holders to be stacked and would allow for more efficient use of storage space.
Whitman snap lock holders are ugly, flimsy and easily break. Cointains are ok but are a pain to keep track of and store in an organized fashion. Flips are ok but you have to store them in coin boxes and can not display your coins. LOC, Dansco and Whitman slide albums are not good for storing proofs as the plastic slide poses much risk of hairlining and can cause ugly toning. Wayte Raymond pages that are placed in three ring binders have plastic slides that damage coins and the paper can cause ugly toning.
So for proof coins that are not slabbed, Capital holders are my preferred storage container for the best examples of proof coins in my collection.
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