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The following coins were stolen from the wholesale boxes of Bozarth Numismatics at the recent Whitman Baltimore Coin Show. The coins are all PCGS or NGC graded and images are available for all coins. A reward of $1500 is offered for any information on the theft of these coins.



1859 Indian Cent MS64 NGC 380292-004

1877 Indian Cent VF25BN PCGS 28104106

1893 Indian Cent MS64BN PCGS 27433417

1916-D Mercury Dime AG3 PCGS 27852127

1881 Seated Quarter PR64 PCGS 14491626

1799 Bust Dollar VF25 NGC 1773636-003

1891 Morgan Dollar MS65 PCGS 25399542

1909-S $5 Indian AU58 PCGS 28158463



Anyone with information should contact:



Vic or Sherri Bozarth/Bozarth Numismatics.

Office 979-421-9814

or

Doug Davis

817-723-7231

Doug@numismaticcrims.org

Comments

  • If they were stolen from the wholesale box does that mean it was a dealer who stole them?
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭✭
    The Bozarth's are good people, but unfortunately criminals don't discriminate. Very sad to hear about this. I'll keep a sharp eye out for these coins!
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If they were stolen from the wholesale box does that mean it was a dealer who stole them? >>



    I guess it could mean that. Or maybe the box was accidentally left out where anyone could grab it.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If they were stolen from the wholesale box does that mean it was a dealer who stole them? >>


    I had the same thought but there are a couple of forum members here that enjoy accusing me of dealer bashing so I thought I'd let someone ask the question first.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If they were stolen from the wholesale box does that mean it was a dealer who stole them? >>



    I guess it could mean that. Or maybe the box was accidentally left out where anyone could grab it. >>



    I seriously doubt that they would be that careless but anything is possible. Hopefully they track down the culprit.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats sad news to hear. it seems that almost every show gets hit at some time image i hope the catch em quick
  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Bummer...Bozarth's are nice people
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I suspect the technology exists today for dealers to bring their own webcams to use at their table. The PAN show has cameras mounted at the show entrance, a sign that says video monitoring is in use, and a display showing the real-time camera feed. When people enter the show they see right at the entrance that they are being recorded. But it shouldn't be too tough to put a wireless camera that streams to a laptop right at the table.

    Yes, it's another thing to lug around, but it could be done with minimal cost and effort. Perhaps a would-be thief would be deterred by seeing the survelliance being deployed right there.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I suspect the technology exists today for dealers to bring their own webcams to use at their table. The PAN show has cameras mounted at the show entrance, a sign that says video monitoring is in use, and a display showing the real-time camera feed. When people enter the show they see right at the entrance that they are being recorded. But it shouldn't be too tough to put a wireless camera that streams to a laptop right at the table.

    Yes, it's another thing to lug around, but it could be done with minimal cost and effort. Perhaps a would-be thief would be deterred by seeing the survelliance being deployed right there. >>



    I've seen it done over 10 years ago!
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vic and Sherri are one of the nicest in the industry and I hope the coins are found and the thief caught
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I spoke with Broadstruck yesterday, he mentioned that a dealer ( who I didn't know )
    had gone to Sullivan's Steak House near the convention center ( I have eaten there a
    few times ) and upon his leaving, he was held up and relieved of his bags, containing
    his inventory, cash bag, checks, and sales receipts. His lap top and iPad were stolen as
    well. He is at a complete loss as to what inventory remained as everything was on his
    lap top. He has had to reconstruct his entire three days at Baltimore - and I am sure he
    is not faring very well at the moment.

    Sorry to have to say this, if you want to have dinner after a show, bring nothing with you
    to a restaurant. If he was planning on eating before catching a later night flight out, just
    do the best you can at the airport restaurants.

    He was lucky he wasn't physically hurt.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

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  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭


    << <i>I would think that video surveillance could be done surreptitiously, so that thieves could be caught in any case; yes deterrence is a huge value. "60 Minutes" had a feature on the high-tech video camera which is pretty much good everywhere for around $400 which has sparked a revolution, mainly for underwater photography: Text >>



    This was my first thought also. Can be placed almost anywhere, is small enough to be "unobtrusive"
    to browsers (or maybe it should be noticed!) and has excellent image quality for a really soft price.
    Everything starts and everything stops at precisely the right time for precisely the right reason.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,070 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I spoke with Broadstruck yesterday, he mentioned that a dealer ( who I didn't know )
    had gone to Sullivan's Steak House near the convention center ( I have eaten there a
    few times ) and upon his leaving, he was held up and relieved of his bags, containing
    his inventory, cash bag, checks, and sales receipts. His lap top and iPad were stolen as
    well. He is at a complete loss as to what inventory remained as everything was on his
    lap top. He has had to reconstruct his entire three days at Baltimore - and I am sure he
    is not faring very well at the moment.

    Sorry to have to say this, if you want to have dinner after a show, bring nothing with you
    to a restaurant. If he was planning on eating before catching a later night flight out, just
    do the best you can at the airport restaurants.

    He was lucky he wasn't physically hurt. >>




    I wish that we could use foul language.


    Just down Pratt street from the CC and Sullivan's we parked on the street to go to the aquarium.
    When we returned, the suv in front had a smashed window w/cops unhappily taken a police report from the owners missing their cell phone.

    It's not a crime riddled area, but don't get lulled into a false sense of security.


    (similar happened to people we knew who parked in front of a museum on constitution ave in DC who lost a small handful of pocketchange and a window)
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That sucks. The Bozarths are some of the best.

    Does a dealer's insurance policy usually cover this sort of thing?
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I spoke with Broadstruck yesterday, he mentioned that a dealer ( who I didn't know )
    had gone to Sullivan's Steak House near the convention center ( I have eaten there a
    few times ) and upon his leaving, he was held up and relieved of his bags, containing
    his inventory, cash bag, checks, and sales receipts. His lap top and iPad were stolen as
    well. He is at a complete loss as to what inventory remained as everything was on his
    lap top. He has had to reconstruct his entire three days at Baltimore - and I am sure he
    is not faring very well at the moment.

    Sorry to have to say this, if you want to have dinner after a show, bring nothing with you
    to a restaurant. If he was planning on eating before catching a later night flight out, just
    do the best you can at the airport restaurants.

    He was lucky he wasn't physically hurt. >>



    I spoke to this dealer on Sat Morning, he was held at knifepoint and still shaky the next morning. Bad situation. It was a group of 6 or 8 well dressed college age guys that held him up.

    Some of the Bozarth coins were sold at the show and a dealer came forward with a potential name and photo. Another dealer was also offered the coins. Hopefully they are on the right track to hunt this loser down.
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  • Sad to hear. Hope there is a resolution and they are made whole. This type of stuff really boils me over !!!!!!
    Condor
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are criminals among the dealers. I found this out the hard way, and coincidentally, at Baltimore several years ago. Not saying it WAS a dealer that did this, and I strongly doubt it was any of our group here.
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was a group of 6 or 8 well dressed college age guys that held him up.

    What race were they? Black, white, mixed. Coat and tie??

    The best for the Bozarths.

    It seems that nasty stories like this turn around for the good.

    Remember Julian??
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vic and Sheri and great folks...honest, hardworking, and trusting. It's a shame stuff like this happens to good people. I hope the ba$tard is nailed.
    Lance.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It was a group of 6 or 8 well dressed college age guys that held him up.

    What race were they? Black, white, mixed. Coat and tie??

    The best for the Bozarths.

    It seems that nasty stories like this turn around for the good.

    Remember Julian?? >>



    I remember reading here that someone stole an expensive coin out of Julian's display case. Was there any follow up reports? Did he ever get his coin back? Did they ever catch the culprit?


    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems every big show has one or two stories like this. Video surveillance at the table is relatively inexpensive now and quite portable. Outside the show, only prudence can prevent such things. Do not carry inventory or leave it unattended (i.e. in car while eating etc). Travel in groups, be observant. Cheers, RickO
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Word of Vic being ripped spread quickly among dealers....but this was the first I heard of the steak house robbery

    anymore details as to what inventory was stolen so we can be looking out for it? Glad whoever dealer was not hurt


    I spoke with Broadstruck yesterday, he mentioned that a dealer ( who I didn't know )
    had gone to Sullivan's Steak House near the convention center ( I have eaten there a
    few times ) and upon his leaving, he was held up and relieved of his bags, containing
    his inventory, cash bag, checks, and sales receipts. His lap top and iPad were stolen as
    well. He is at a complete loss as to what inventory remained as everything was on his
    lap top. He has had to reconstruct his entire three days at baltimore - and I am sure he
    is not faring very well at the moment.
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I attended the 1993,2003 and 2008 ANA shows in Baltimore. I walked around the Inner Harbor area with my family after the show and felt very safe. Has the area changed? I have been wanting to go to one of the Baltimore Whitman shows but now I am rethinking that.image
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,070 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I attended the 1993,2003 and 2008 ANA shows in Baltimore. I walked around the Inner Harbor area with my family after the show and felt very safe. Has the area changed? I have been wanting to go to one of the Baltimore Whitman shows but now I am rethinking that.image >>




    Changed? No.

    The knife robbery had to be at night.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • DonWillisDonWillis Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    So sorry to hear Vic and Sherri. Let me know if there is anything PCGS can do to help.



    A dealer friend of mine installed a camera and monitoring system after someone lifted his cash bag. As far as I know he has never had a problem again.

    Dealers are a target and need to be very careful when showing coins to people they are not familar with, or don't show them at all.


    I've had a few freaky experiences on the streets near the convention center. Travel iight and travel together!


  • I really enjoy talking with Vic and Sherri and have bought some great coins from them. Always fair. This kind of stuff can really take the fun out of the hobby. More in reference to the other incident, as the Bozarth theft was apparently indoors, Baltimore is a rough city.
  • Maybe an impractical or stupid idea but I am thinking of those little plastic tag things attached to dresses and clothes in department stores. I dunno. I just hope these good folks and the others in this thread who have had trouble will be OK. And the bad guys...I wish them legs of lead and feet of clay. The karmic wheel has a nasty equivalent to the brass ring on a merry-go-round image The clock is already counting for these bad guys from such practices. "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but one day, and maybe for the rest of their lives..."

    Good night,
    Eric
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many dealers pay so little attention to their tables it's amazing this does not happen MORE often. Dealers would do well to bring along another "team member" who does Nothing but watch people.
  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like a high crime area.
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭
    Very saddened to hear this. Vic is a wonderful guy, and I hope that these coins return to him and his spouse soon.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It always happens in that one moment of lost focus.
    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a high crime area. >>



    I certainly would not recommend walking around the convention center area late at night by yourself.
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Sounds like a high crime area. >>



    I certainly would not recommend walking around the convention center area late at night by yourself. >>



    image

    Also, I would recommend to NEVER take the light rail to or from the airport, even when traveling without valuables. I did it once or twice and it's downright scary. The Inner Harbor Area is very nice during the day, but go more than a few blocks away from the convention center and you can get yourself in a lot of trouble.

    Dennis
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Let's make it clear that crime can happen anytime and anywhere. There are no places that are totally immune from criminal activity.

    For the record I've been around the convention center and Inner Harbor area at almost all hours and haven't felt that threatened. Of course that doesn't mean anybody should ever let down their guard.
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  • << <i>Let's make it clear that crime can happen anytime and anywhere. There are no places that are totally immune from criminal activity.

    For the record I've been around the convention center and Inner Harbor area at almost all hours and haven't felt that threatened. Of course that doesn't mean anybody should ever let down their guard. >>




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  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My good / bad experience at a major coin show was taking 10 common date PCGS MS64 Morgans to 6 or 7 dealers to sell as a group. and didn't sell them. It concerned me the way they would spread them out, look at them, restack them, then look at them again, etc. I came home with 9 Morgans, and one of them had morphed from a common date PCGS MS64 to a 1883-CC PCGS DMPL. I was 95% of the dealer who shorted me, but no idea who gave me the major upgrade.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Some opinions from the other side of the atlantic



    Here’s what other countries, mostly France, say about American cities:

    Boston: Avoid walking at night in Dorchester, Mattapan and Roxbury, and be wary of “petty crime” in Chinatown, the North End and Fenway.

    New York: Be wary in Times Square and at the Statue of Liberty, and don’t go to Harlem, the Bronx or Central Park at night.

    Washington: Northeast and Southeast should be avoided, and Union Station is dangerous at night. “Le quartier Anacostia n’est pas recommandable de jour comme de nuit.” Translation: Don’t go to Anacostia, day or night.

    Baltimore: “Considered a dangerous city except downtown.”

    Richmond: “Do not visit the city on foot.”

    16 American cities foreign governments warn their citizens about
    16 American cities foreign governments warn

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pocket piece can have more than one meaning.
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