LEGEND SETS A WORLD RECORD PRICE!
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LEGEND SETS A WORLD RECORD PRICE! Today, Saturday 11/09, Legend Numisamtics paid a record $276,000.00 to buy the holey grail of the arrowhead world-the largest and finest Clovis point that exists. We paid that price while representing a customer. It is the most expensive arrowhead to ever sell at auction! In ALL areas of collectables today, there is more money than supply. Hence the, record prices.
Morphy Auctions Lot # 57 - Rutz Clovis Point
The Rutz Clovis Point, a projectile head circa 10,000-9,000 BC, will lead Morphy Auctions' November 9 sale of prehistoric American artefacts in Denver with a $200,000-400,000 estimate.
Rutz Clovis point expected to fetch $400,000 at auction. The point was discovered in 1950.The Clovis people were early inhabitants of North America who first appear on the archaeological record 13,000 years ago. The distinctive bifacal stone spearheads, known as points, were used to hunt big game such as mammoth.
The Rutz point, carved from green obsidian, was discovered in a wheat field in Douglas County, Washington in the 1950s and has remained in the same family ever since.
At just over 9 inches, it is the largest ever found and is considered to be of great historical importance.
LEGEND SETS A WORLD RECORD PRICE! Today, Saturday 11/09, Legend Numisamtics paid a record $276,000.00 to buy the holey grail of the arrowhead world-the largest and finest Clovis point that exists. We paid that price while representing a customer. It is the most expensive arrowhead to ever sell at auction! In ALL areas of collectables today, there is more money than supply. Hence the, record prices.
Morphy Auctions Lot # 57 - Rutz Clovis Point
The Rutz Clovis Point, a projectile head circa 10,000-9,000 BC, will lead Morphy Auctions' November 9 sale of prehistoric American artefacts in Denver with a $200,000-400,000 estimate.
Rutz Clovis point expected to fetch $400,000 at auction. The point was discovered in 1950.The Clovis people were early inhabitants of North America who first appear on the archaeological record 13,000 years ago. The distinctive bifacal stone spearheads, known as points, were used to hunt big game such as mammoth.
The Rutz point, carved from green obsidian, was discovered in a wheat field in Douglas County, Washington in the 1950s and has remained in the same family ever since.
At just over 9 inches, it is the largest ever found and is considered to be of great historical importance.
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I have found a few obsidian arrowheads in the Mammoth area.
Eric
All joking aside, I really don't see that much value in this item! But, it would have made for one HECK of an effective hunting spear point or knife blade!
*The Auction description was also slightly wrong. The site is called Richey (not Richie), but is also more knowingly referred to as the East Wenatchee Clovie Site.
Edited to add - with a point THIS LARGE, the people who produced it probably produced many at a time and likely cached them (as are common traits of Clovis sites).
I wouldn't be surprised if more examples were found about this large in the same area. The size of this point also tells me that it was probably never used, but if it
was used it wasn't used very much as progressive re-sharpening would have reduced it's overall size considerably (like so many Clovis points which are found).
Nevertheless, it takes an immense skill to produce an blade/point this large - these Clovis people were true masters of stone (no pun intended)!
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<< <i>I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about this kind of stuff. >>
How about this recent sale Violin played as Titanic sank sells for $1.7 million
Yeah. Even if that violin had Mammoth DNA on the tip of it I still wouldn't want it either.
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<< <i>^
Yeah. Even if that violin had Mammoth DNA on the tip of it I still wouldn't want it either. >>
At this point the piece is sui generis TDN quality/rarity, though another group of '33 $20's might still be out there. .
13,000 years............ Think about it. . . . How ironically does Ozymandias come to mind....
<< <i>13,000 years............
At this point the piece is sui generis TDN quality/rarity, though another group of '33 $20's might still be out there. .
13,000 years............ Think about it. . . . How ironically does Ozymandias come to mind.... >>
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I don't see the value in the item sold but do have an appreciation for it mainly due to the material it was made from.
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<< <i>13,000 years............
At this point the piece is sui generis TDN quality/rarity, though another group of '33 $20's might still be out there. .
13,000 years............ Think about it. . . . How ironically does Ozymandias come to mind.... >>
Ozymandias
Okay, the kid that made it traded it to his older brother in exchange for his brother's wife.
Yep, currency in the oldest form.
bob
<< <i>were is the bean? >>
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<< <i>The size of this point also tells me that it was probably never used, but if it
was used it wasn't used very much as progressive re-sharpening would have reduced it's overall size considerably (like so many Clovis points which are found).
Nevertheless, it takes an immense skill to produce an blade/point this large >>
Stone - do you think a blade like this was more of a ceremonial piece? These were generally made to be projectiles, hafted to a stick, for throwing by hand, or with an atl-atl......I'm guessing the weight of this piece wouldn't allow the 'projector' to get it very far!
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<< <i>What Mint was that made in?...err.. I should say what Flint was that made in.
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went back to every spot, actually quite fun, and put them back in the dirt as close to the way I
remembered finding them.
The one in the pic above was probably not even considered usable as it was flawed. The thickness
should not be thin just ahead of the point. It would break on contact most likely. Thus was discarded
and never used.
Just my observation.
It would be fun to find such a real piece. Biggest I ever eyed in the earth was about 3.25 inches.
In N. Nevada east of Pyramid lake. Near the lake shore it was littered with little bird points and
an occasional 1-1.5" dear/sheep point. Many different types are found there from chert to flint
and obsidian. Obsidian was never found locally so trading must have taken place with other
tribes/peoples.
When hunting for them it was best after a light rain as they would glisten in the wet earth.
I also found occasional campsites with fire pits that were littered with broken points, sandals,
wrappings for arrows and such. Although in the charcoal of the pit, these would be un-burned
so I always thought they just used the old fire pit as a dump. Perhaps so.
In S. Nevada the points are almost always less than an inch. Never found one larger, even in
the deer/elk/sheep areas. They must be there but must be quite scarce.
In Colorado I did several hunts and found they were all over an inch but under 2 inches. No biggies
that I thought we'd find. Not many bird or fish points either though.
Anyone can hunt for them. Just point your nose to the ground and look. Late in the day after a
rain or shower is always the most productive. They stick out like sore thumbs as they are so shiny
when wet. Go slow.
bob
<< <i>I have owned many arrowheads but actually chose to put them back where I found them. Yep,
went back to every spot, actually quite fun, and put them back in the dirt as close to the way I
remembered finding them.
The one in the pic above was probably not even considered usable as it was flawed. The thickness
should not be thin just ahead of the point. It would break on contact most likely. Thus was discarded
and never used.
Just my observation.
It would be fun to find such a real piece. Biggest I ever eyed in the earth was about 3.25 inches.
In N. Nevada east of Pyramid lake. Near the lake shore it was littered with little bird points and
an occasional 1-1.5" dear/sheep point. Many different types are found there from chert to flint
and obsidian. Obsidian was never found locally so trading must have taken place with other
tribes/peoples.
When hunting for them it was best after a light rain as they would glisten in the wet earth.
I also found occasional campsites with fire pits that were littered with broken points, sandals,
wrappings for arrows and such. Although in the charcoal of the pit, these would be un-burned
so I always thought they just used the old fire pit as a dump. Perhaps so.
In S. Nevada the points are almost always less than an inch. Never found one larger, even in
the deer/elk/sheep areas. They must be there but must be quite scarce.
In Colorado I did several hunts and found they were all over an inch but under 2 inches. No biggies
that I thought we'd find. Not many bird or fish points either though.
Anyone can hunt for them. Just point your nose to the ground and look. Late in the day after a
rain or shower is always the most productive. They stick out like sore thumbs as they are so shiny
when wet. Go slow.
bob
I used to find arrowheads with my dad who was a serious collector. The best places to look are in freshly plowed fields after a heavy rain that exposes them by washing off the dirt that hides them. Also, the Indians camped on higher ground because it provide good drainage so that's where there is a higher concentration of arrowheads.
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<< <i>It is very interesting and should cloned mammoths ever be made we will surely need something to kill them. >>
Without a doubt...post of the week.
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<< <i>What Mint was that made in?...err.. I should say what Flint was that made in.
Philadelphia. No Flint Mark.
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It was a lot of work but finding a decent intact arrowhead was like finding a pot of gold.
Imagine my dismay when my brother recently told me a local Amish guy has learned to make arrowheads that are spittin images of the real thing.
Hey do you think maybe this guy could make me a big point like that Legend one?
Think anyone could tell the difference?
at 9 inches, that would be one
the image does it a great disservice w/o something providing scale.
13k years ago the people were doing that and today in a supposedly advanced society people are addicts and homeless and people in their 20s/30s can't even take out the trash
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I don't think I would want to attack a mammoth with that.
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The Rutz Clovis Point, a projectile head circa 10,000-9,000 BC, will lead Morphy Auctions' November 9 sale of prehistoric American artefacts in Denver with a $200,000-400,000 estimate. >>
That's a little old even by my standards.
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<< <i>The size of this point also tells me that it was probably never used, but if it
was used it wasn't used very much as progressive re-sharpening would have reduced it's overall size considerably (like so many Clovis points which are found).
Nevertheless, it takes an immense skill to produce an blade/point this large >>
Stone - do you think a blade like this was more of a ceremonial piece? These were generally made to be projectiles, hafted to a stick, for throwing by hand, or with an atl-atl......I'm guessing the weight of this piece wouldn't allow the 'projector' to get it very far! >>
I wouldn't want to be the guy in its path when its thrown. Looks like it could do some irreparable damage to a guy's head.
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<< <i>I wouldn't want to be the guy in its path when its thrown. Looks like it could do some irreparable damage to a guy's head. >>
No, I bet not - assuming it could be thrown more than about 20 ft or so.....while many here may be picturing large, burly cavemen types, I think in reality most of these fellows were quite small compared to us. Also, most of the 'working' clovis-type points were thin and 2-3 in length,
and made from cherts, flints, and hardstones, rather than obsidian, which also breaks rather easily, being like glass. But when thrown with
an atl-atl, with the point hafted on a shaft by the flutes, giving it less resistance, the 'spear' could fly a long way, with decent accuracy, and
penetrate deeply into the intended target.
A few other things - These pieces pre-date 'arrow heads' by many thousands of years, as bows are relatively recent (on the human time scale)
invention. And true arrow points are usually about a half inch or so......like my point about the above piece, sure you can make it large, but
how far would it go when you shot it?
As to damage to a guy's head, this did bring back a recollection when I got a 'tour' of a multigenerational collection of artifacts collected in Ohio - among them was a human jawbone excavated from a mound (legal at the time), that had an arrowhead impaled in it.
As to fakes, like many other things, these have been a problem for many decades. Hence the need, just like in coins, for expertise, knowledge, certification, and provenance of important pieces. There are attributes to look for that are difficult, if not impossible, to fake. Yes, fakes are made that sell readily at flea markets, etc. but anyone paying the big money is likely not going to be fooled by something made last week or last year.
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