I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.
if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!
Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... Cheers, RickO
<< <i>Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... Cheers, RickO >>
Would someone, anyone, show me a single example of an "easily faked" and "easily certified" textile toned Morgan dollar?
I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.
if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!! >>
The age of the coin combined with the peculiar pattern raises some questions. Calling it "textile" is disingenuous - most any toner collector knows this is not a result of bag storage, and the result of something else. Maybe sitting in a drawer on a paper towel forgotten for years, sure OK. Still, I might consider that contrived. Just an opinion. Obviously our host thinks this coin with this toning is acceptable, regardless of how it happened. And that's fine too.
It's been on my watch list for awhile, I don't know why, since I don't plan on buying it...but I also think it looks pretty neat and would buy it at somewhere around half the asking price...
I need to stop putting my coins down on my napken after lunch... TBN Taco-bell-Tone They should put that on the holder and i cant get a redish coin i pulled out of a Dansco in a holder, This sucks eeg's But this is a cool looking coin..
<< <i>Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.
And... that's against the rules. . . >>
This thread is not about disparaging PCGS or the seller. The intent is to discuss and share a new type of toning that I haven't seen on ASEs before, slabbed or not. A number of knowledgable people have said this toning looks natural so that's a big vote of confidence for a new type of toned ASE to collect.
While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby.
I got to see this coin in hand a few weeks ago at the salt lake coin show and it is an amazing coin. I love when people say a coin like this is "easy" to "create", really? Show me another one.........hello anybody there?......... I didn't think so.
While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby. >>
Ditto. These are 99.9% pure silver and they do some pretty neat things color wise....how many are AT vs. NT ? Don't know and could care less, it's not for me to sort out thankfully...
There were some "toned" Morgans about 4-5 years ago that were made as i had heard with some kind of chicken wire textile toning and fooled some people it shouldnt have.Hope that doctor is out of business for good.Caveat Emptor.
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I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.
if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!
<< <i>Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play....
Would someone, anyone, show me a single example of an "easily faked" and "easily certified" textile toned Morgan dollar?
Thank you.
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<< <i>why contrived??
I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.
if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!
The age of the coin combined with the peculiar pattern raises some questions. Calling it "textile" is disingenuous - most any toner collector knows this is not a result of bag storage, and the result of something else. Maybe sitting in a drawer on a paper towel forgotten for years, sure OK. Still, I might consider that contrived. Just an opinion. Obviously our host thinks this coin with this toning is acceptable, regardless of how it happened. And that's fine too.
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That is cool.
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Not my cup of tea toning though.......
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<< <i>Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.
And... that's against the rules. . . >>
This thread is not about disparaging PCGS or the seller. The intent is to discuss and share a new type of toning that I haven't seen on ASEs before, slabbed or not. A number of knowledgable people have said this toning looks natural so that's a big vote of confidence for a new type of toned ASE to collect.
While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby.
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While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby. >>
Ditto. These are 99.9% pure silver and they do some pretty neat things color wise....how many are AT vs. NT ? Don't know and could care less, it's not for me to sort out thankfully...
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