Wow. Textile toning on an ASE

Zoins

I have to admit I think this PCGS MS65 is very interesting:

AnkurJ

Looks like it was done with a gauze pad.

bigjpst

Could be someone was practicing the bag toned look. Coming soon to some Morgan dollars near you.

keyman64

Baley

I'd guess napkin or paper towel, and demonstrates (crudely in this case) that patterns can be faked.

SkyMan

Taco Bell...

bolivarshagnasty

While I liked uniquely toned ASE's, I would agree with the others that this one looks contrived. JMHO

vibr0nic

I would like to see the whole slab.

bolivarshagnasty

Up late vibr0nic? You can see the coin on ebay. It's been there for months. Shag

vibr0nic

Ah, here we go. I agree it looks "interesting" although "contrived" also works. Not my series though. And yes, up late - as usual!

Justlooking

Well, it did make the grade ... and a red sticker, no less.

I like it.

keets

why contrived??

I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.

if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!

ricko

Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... Cheers, RickO

braddick

<< <i>Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... Cheers, RickO >>



Would someone, anyone, show me a single example of an "easily faked" and "easily certified" textile toned Morgan dollar?

Thank you.

Baley

The majority of obverse-toned common-date Morgans with amber, hot pink, and electric blue "rainbow" toning are artificially toned.

TwoKopeiki

That looks like most sulfur-toned coins I've seen. Same combination of brown, orange and blue.

vibr0nic

<< <i>why contrived??

I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.

if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!! >>



The age of the coin combined with the peculiar pattern raises some questions. Calling it "textile" is disingenuous - most any toner collector knows this is not a result of bag storage, and the result of something else. Maybe sitting in a drawer on a paper towel forgotten for years, sure OK. Still, I might consider that contrived. Just an opinion. Obviously our host thinks this coin with this toning is acceptable, regardless of how it happened. And that's fine too.

crypto79

Practice makes perfect

johnny9434

thats a first seeing that one for me. kinda cool looking as well.

Tiny

Bounty

AMRC

Not terribly attractive, nor is that a high grade for the series. However, there is nothing "wrong" with it.

19Lyds

<< <i>I have to admit I think this PCGS MS65 is very interesting:

>>

That is cool.

Jcarney

Not a big toning guy but I kinda like it.

123cents

Obverse toning is very cool!

jayPem

It's been on my watch list for awhile, I don't know why, since I don't plan on buying it...but I also think it looks pretty neat and would buy it at somewhere around half the asking price...

coinsarefun

Its perfectly natural, great seller and have met him several times.

Not my cup of tea toning though.......

TireKicker

It is a nice looking coin

Not my series or the colors I like but, it does have eye appeal IMHO

braddick

Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.

And... that's against the rules. . .

Type2

I need to stop putting my coins down on my napken after lunch... TBN Taco-bell-Tone They should put that on the holder and i cant get a redish coin i pulled out of a Dansco in a holder, This sucks eeg's But this is a cool looking coin..

Zoins

<< <i>Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.

And... that's against the rules. . . >>



This thread is not about disparaging PCGS or the seller. The intent is to discuss and share a new type of toning that I haven't seen on ASEs before, slabbed or not. A number of knowledgable people have said this toning looks natural so that's a big vote of confidence for a new type of toned ASE to collect.

While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby.

nk1nk

I got to see this coin in hand a few weeks ago at the salt lake coin show and it is an amazing coin. I love when people say a coin like this is "easy" to "create", really? Show me another one.........hello anybody there?......... I didn't think so.

Nick

jayPem

<< <i>

While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby. >>



Ditto. These are 99.9% pure silver and they do some pretty neat things color wise....how many are AT vs. NT ? Don't know and could care less, it's not for me to sort out thankfully...

derryb

taco bell cheezecloth

Coppercolor

gross

bestclser1

There were some "toned" Morgans about 4-5 years ago that were made as i had heard with some kind of chicken wire textile toning and fooled some people it shouldnt have.Hope that doctor is out of business for good.Caveat Emptor.