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Wow. Textile toning on an ASE

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have to admit I think this PCGS MS65 is very interesting:

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it was done with a gauze pad.
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  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be someone was practicing the bag toned look. Coming soon to some Morgan dollars near you. image
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd guess napkin or paper towel, and demonstrates (crudely in this case) that patterns can be faked.

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While I liked uniquely toned ASE's, I would agree with the others that this one looks contrived. JMHO
  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
    I would like to see the whole slab.
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Up late vibr0nic? You can see the coin on ebay. It's been there for months. Shag
  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
    Ah, here we go. I agree it looks "interesting" although "contrived" also works. Not my series though. And yes, up late - as usual!
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • Well, it did make the grade ... and a red sticker, no less. image

    I like it.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why contrived??

    I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.

    if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... image Cheers, RickO
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Never understood why textile tarnish is considered rare - very easy to fake - and - with this example, easy to get certified... environmental damage (tarnish) can be induced in many ways, and although any tarnish may be questioned, much of the induced tarnish is accepted as NT... It is all a game and people pay dearly to play.... image Cheers, RickO >>



    Would someone, anyone, show me a single example of an "easily faked" and "easily certified" textile toned Morgan dollar?

    Thank you.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The majority of obverse-toned common-date Morgans with amber, hot pink, and electric blue "rainbow" toning are artificially toned.

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks like most sulfur-toned coins I've seen. Same combination of brown, orange and blue.
  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭


    << <i>why contrived??

    I opened a 1953 Box Proof Set the other day and the coins were wrapped in a sheet of glad wrap plastic, not individually but in one long piece. if you spend any time working or hanging around in a B&M you won't be surprised by much of anything, so the notion that some unsophisticated collector may have wrapped this ASE in cloth doesn't surprise me.

    if this was an 1888 Morgan......................Wowzer!!!image >>



    The age of the coin combined with the peculiar pattern raises some questions. Calling it "textile" is disingenuous - most any toner collector knows this is not a result of bag storage, and the result of something else. Maybe sitting in a drawer on a paper towel forgotten for years, sure OK. Still, I might consider that contrived. Just an opinion. Obviously our host thinks this coin with this toning is acceptable, regardless of how it happened. And that's fine too.
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • Practice makes perfect
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats a first seeing that one for me. kinda cool looking as well.

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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not terribly attractive, nor is that a high grade for the series. However, there is nothing "wrong" with it.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to admit I think this PCGS MS65 is very interesting:

    imageimage >>

    That is cool.
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    Not a big toning guy but I kinda like it.
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Obverse toning is very cool!
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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's been on my watch list for awhile, I don't know why, since I don't plan on buying it...but I also think it looks pretty neat and would buy it at somewhere around half the asking price...image
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • It is a nice looking coinimage

    Not my series or the colors I like but, it does have eye appeal IMHO
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.

    And... that's against the rules. . .

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I need to stop putting my coins down on my napken after lunch... TBN Taco-bell-Tone They should put that on the holder and i cant get a redish coin i pulled out of a Dansco in a holder, This sucks eeg's But this is a cool looking coin.. image


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Threads like this disparage PCGS and not so much the seller.

    And... that's against the rules. . . >>



    This thread is not about disparaging PCGS or the seller. The intent is to discuss and share a new type of toning that I haven't seen on ASEs before, slabbed or not. A number of knowledgable people have said this toning looks natural so that's a big vote of confidence for a new type of toned ASE to collect.

    While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby.
  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭
    I got to see this coin in hand a few weeks ago at the salt lake coin show and it is an amazing coin. I love when people say a coin like this is "easy" to "create", really? Show me another one.........hello anybody there?......... I didn't think so.

    Nick
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    While not everyone enjoys toned ASEs, I think they are a fun part of the hobby. >>



    Ditto. These are 99.9% pure silver and they do some pretty neat things color wise....how many are AT vs. NT ? Don't know and could care less, it's not for me to sort out thankfully...image
  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    gross
    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    There were some "toned" Morgans about 4-5 years ago that were made as i had heard with some kind of chicken wire textile toning and fooled some people it shouldnt have.Hope that doctor is out of business for good.Caveat Emptor.
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