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Anyone familiar with Anthony Swiatek?

A lady I work with bought 5 commerative half dollars from him amd attended a class he held 20+ years ago now how should she market tthese coins. They are Raw in a 2×2 Flip with his signature and buisness on it and the coins have a tyoe of thin plastic holder snug around the coin the have assigned grades but are they to be trusted? Or should we have them sent for Tpg? Here are a few pics..imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage
Mark Brown

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anthony literally wrote the book on commems

    MK
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  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anthony literally wrote the book on commems

    MK >>



    This.

    Be similar to trying to verify the authenticity of moon rocks sold to her by some guy named Neil Armstrong.
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anthony literally wrote the book on commems

    MK >>



    Yep. He actually wrote several books on them. Probably the leading specialist on classic commems.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Swiatek flips are neat. Unless the coins are from a catalog with photos or other such documentation, proving a provenance is impossible. Nonetheless, the flips add character.

    If she wants to get the most for the coins, send them into PCGS to get certified. The Hawaiian will not sell well without being certified (unless sold back to Swiatek). She should also send a note to PCGS that the coins may need to be conserved even if the coins were encased in Kointains.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    20 years ago is a different world. The coins could easily grade higher or lower today.
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭
    They don't call him "Mr. Commemorative" for nothing.

    Have the coins slabbed, but keep the 2x2s with them, as they add a certain cool factor.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I am not sure Anthony is still setting up at shows, could be.

    My recommendation is to give each of the coins a bath in acetone, and then submit them to PCGS for grading. An acetone bath will remove any PVC residue, if there is any. If the flips are soft plastic, they may well have PVC in them. Here is all you need to know.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,885 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My recommendation is to give each of the coins a bath in acetone, and then submit them to PCGS for grading. An acetone bath will remove any PVC residue, if there is any. If the flips are soft plastic, they may well have PVC in them. Here is all you need to know.

    Acetone Bath >>



    Good advice.image

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anthony is a regular at the major shows. I've met him a number of times. He gave a presentation to my local club when I was living in the Boston area. He was a the ANA president at the time.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    She attended the Seminar/class he did for Investment opportunity for people who were willing to put up the Several thousand dollars she purchased them for She has the other documents and receipts as well.. I dnt think this matters much but I think its kewl that they are in original packaging and havent been touched or removed in over 20years.
    Mark Brown

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>She attended the Seminar/class he did for Investment opportunity for people who were willing to put up the Several thousand dollars she purchased them for She has the other documents and receipts as well.. I don't think this matters much but I think its kewl that they are in original packaging and haven't been touched or removed in over 20years. >>



    I'd love to know what she paid for them 20+ years ago at his investment seminar! image
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>She attended the Seminar/class he did for Investment opportunity for people who were willing to put up the Several thousand dollars she purchased them for She has the other documents and receipts as well.. I don't think this matters much but I think its kewl that they are in original packaging and haven't been touched or removed in over 20years. >>



    I'd love to know what she paid for them 20+ years ago at his investment seminar! image >>



    I was thinking the same since 24 years ago was the height/peak of the investment run up in coins…………….MJ
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  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    She told me around 13grand
    Mark Brown

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>She attended the Seminar/class he did for Investment opportunity for people who were willing to put up the Several thousand dollars she purchased them for She has the other documents and receipts as well.. I don't think this matters much but I think its kewl that they are in original packaging and haven't been touched or removed in over 20years. >>



    I'd love to know what she paid for them 20+ years ago at his investment seminar! image >>



    I was thinking the same since 24 years ago was the height/peak of the investment run up in coins…………….MJ >>



    23 years ago I bought a raw toned Maine for $1K that I had Larry Shepherd submit to PCGS and it came back OGH MS65. Not long ago at Enzio Romano's table at a show I saw my old coin in now blue label MS65 holder at an ask of $1,250.00.

    So I'm really curious how she did on her investment in early commems bought back then imageimage
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  • njcoincranknjcoincrank Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    Not sure about anybody else, but that Alabama looks really nice to me...

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure about anybody else, but that Alabama looks really nice to me...

    njcc >>



    That does look like a very clean example.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>She told me around 13grand >>



    I'm only seeing 3... What are the other 2 of the group of 5 she purchased image
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  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    Hawaiian
    Roanoke
    36-D Texas
    Alabama2×2
    Columbia, Sc
    Norfolk
    The 1 in different holder was purchased separately at Baltimore Show way back then.
    Mark Brown

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At the last Baltimore show, I stopped by to ask him about a commemorative partial set a good friend had purchased at way too high a price from another well known dealer. My friend had cancer, thought he was recovering (he wasn't) and went way overboard on this set. The set was offered back to the original dealer who refused to make an offer to re-purchase it under any circumstances.
    Anyway, Swiatek did not make an offer but he spent a good 45 minutes of his time assisting me with the coins, authenticity and grades. He was a real pro and he was also critical of the original dealer who made the sale (for not offering to re-purchase the coins). I was very impressed with his candor and knowledge.
    I don't know about the coin prices paid or the market back then, but they do look high grade from the photos. And I do believe Swiatek is a class act based upon my interaction with him.

    Tom

  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Unless the HI grades quite high, she is buried in them.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My recommendation is to give each of the coins a bath in acetone, and then submit them to PCGS for grading. An acetone bath will remove any PVC residue, if there is any. If the flips are soft plastic, they may well have PVC in them. Here is all you need to know.

    NO. It looks like the coins are in Kointains, which will keep a coin safe from the PVC in flips. Regardless, don't touch the coins. Show them to a good dealer and you'll get proper advice.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cointains or not...they look loaded with PCV to me from the pictures.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,788 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>She attended the Seminar/class he did for Investment opportunity for people who were willing to put up the Several thousand dollars she purchased them for She has the other documents and receipts as well.. I don't think this matters much but I think its kewl that they are in original packaging and haven't been touched or removed in over 20years. >>



    I'd love to know what she paid for them 20+ years ago at his investment seminar! image >>



    I was thinking the same since 24 years ago was the height/peak of the investment run up in coins…………….MJ >>



    Indeed! Commems peaked at the 1989 ANA in Pittsburgh.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cointains or not...they look loaded with PCV to me from the pictures. >>



    They are all fine... As even the dark rim crust and smeared reverse on the Columbia is typical toning from the issued cardboard holder.
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I have zero experience with commems but those all look like very nice original thick skinned coins. But I also think that her 13K investment she would have been better off in the stock market.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I have zero experience with commems but those all look like very nice original thick skinned coins. But I also think that her 13K investment she would have been better off in the stock market. >>



    Or she could have just as easily lost ALL her money in the stock market.
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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    Those coins look wonderful. Especially the Alabama, but all of them, actually.

    Unless one of you is knowledgeable, I would not do anything to them, including acetone. One accidental fingerprint could make a big difference.

    Absolutely send them to PCGS. That's the only way to get top dollar, and all of them look worth slabbing.

    Save the flips to sell with the coins. Most buyers would appreciate the story that goes with them.
  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>She told me around 13grand >>



    I'm only seeing 3... What are the other 2 of the group of 5 she purchased image >>



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  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭
    I'll add my endorsement to those here. Anthony Swiatek is a longtime
    contributor to the Red Book, specializing in commemoratives --- not just
    pricing, but also mintages, research, information on early Proofs, etc.
    He helped flesh out the advanced coverage of classic commems in the
    Professional Edition of the Red Book.


  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Indeed commemoratives peaked at the 1989 ANA. >>



    Yes, by 1995-6 a lot of them were worth one half or less of what they were then. They had brief revival, then they went down again and have stayed there. There is not much any dealer can do about that.
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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look like a nice group, but not 13K nice.

    I'd ask Anthony what he would pay for them now.

    Check with other dealers who handle early commem's for price quotes.

    Keep the plastic and labels.

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