Home U.S. Coin Forum

Questions for John Mercanti and Ed Moy?

DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
If you have any questions for John Mercanti or Edmund Moy, let me know. . . .


“Silver, Gold, and Platinum: Behind the Scenes at the U.S. Mint,” with Edmund Moy and John Mercanti
Saturday, November 9, 2013, at the Whitman Baltimore Coin and Collectibles Expo
11 a.m. – 12 p.m.

Join Ed Moy (retired director of the U.S. Mint) and John Mercanti (retired U.S. Mint chief engraver) in a free-wheeling
exploration of the American Eagle bullion program, modern coinage, collecting and investing, and other hobby topics.
This is a round-table discussion, moderated by Whitman publisher Dennis Tucker, featuring behind-the-scenes stories,
advice for collectors, and personal memories from two of the U.S. Mint’s most famous living legends. Bring your copy of
Mercanti's American Silver Eagles to be autographed after the round-table.


Comments

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah. Why'd Ed Moy put the skids on the 2009 Proof Silver Eagle. I know, I know, he'll quote "The Law" but the reality is that regardless of t"The Law" the US Mint had always produced and sold Proof Silver Eagles before mid-production year thereby providing collectors with proof versions of the Silver Eagle yet, in 2009, somebody decided to NOT follow previous precedent.

    Why?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Why continue on with the Kennedy half when it doesn't circulate?
    2. Putting different designs and gimmicky edge markings will not make the small dollar circulate while the paper dollar is current. Why do you keep pushing on this string?
    3. What happened to the classical redesign of our circulating coinage?
    4. Please explain the use of small case lettering on the 2008 ASE reverse.
    5. The nickel and dollar exhibit 3/4 views. Can we expect this of the cent, dime, quarter and half smoeday?
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1. Why continue on with the Kennedy half when it doesn't circulate?
    2. Putting different designs and gimmicky edge markings will not make the small dollar circulate while the paper dollar is current. Why do you keep pushing on this string?
    3. What happened to the classical redesign of our circulating coinage?
    4. Please explain the use of small case lettering on the 2008 ASE reverse.
    5. The nickel and dollar exhibit 3/4 views. Can we expect this of the cent, dime, quarter and half smoeday? >>



    Oh, nice job on the gold Buffs, except for the RP, and fractionals along with the entire Plat series. I would like to see fractionals there too.
  • Any plans for more high relief mintage similar to 2009 UHR
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask them how ASE are processed before and after they are struck; that is, are they washed in some solution? Basically, I would be interested to know if they have any idea why some ASE's milk spot so badly. They might not know enough about the production of the coins to offer an intelligent answer but I would be interested if they do have some insight. Of course, it is quite likely the powers at PCGS have already made this inquiry ...
    Mark


  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask them why they still can't fix the ordering process when a hot item hits.....why their customer service sucks.
    Ask them why they make "collector" items, but then leave collectors in the dust when follow-up items aren't done due to sucky sales (ie...should never have started in the first place, or should finish them off anyway).

    I also agree to ask about the SAEs and the rinse/spotting.

    What is the real reason that they don't always use the USPS....is it just pricing or is it something else logistical?

    Ask why the designs are allowed to be stale (ie...kennedy, Roosevelt, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln....all have been on the obverses quite awhile).

    Ask why the push for edge lettering on the dollar that included the mintmark....what was it supposed to hide? It was poorly thought out and poorly executed.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1. Why continue on with the Kennedy half when it doesn't circulate?
    2. Putting different designs and gimmicky edge markings will not make the small dollar circulate while the paper dollar is current. Why do you keep pushing on this string?
    3. What happened to the classical redesign of our circulating coinage?
    4. Please explain the use of small case lettering on the 2008 ASE reverse.
    5. The nickel and dollar exhibit 3/4 views. Can we expect this of the cent, dime, quarter and half smoeday? >>



    Oh, nice job on the gold Buffs, except for the RP, and fractionals along with the entire Plat series. I would like to see fractionals there too. >>




    1. mandate by US Code / Congress
    2. congress again
    5. they are both retired, so they can only offer their views on "future" questions or if anything was in the works before they left.
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ask them why they still can't fix the ordering process when a hot item hits.....why their customer service sucks.
    Ask them why they make "collector" items, but then leave collectors in the dust when follow-up items aren't done due to sucky sales (ie...should never have started in the first place, or should finish them off anyway).

    I also agree to ask about the SAEs and the rinse/spotting.

    What is the real reason that they don't always use the USPS....is it just pricing or is it something else logistical?

    Ask why the designs are allowed to be stale (ie...kennedy, Roosevelt, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln....all have been on the obverses quite awhile).

    Ask why the push for edge lettering on the dollar that included the mintmark....what was it supposed to hide? It was poorly thought out and poorly executed. >>




    all these will have to be past tense questions since both are retired.

    Congress mandated the date and "EPU" and formerly "IGWT" on the edge of the dollars. no mention of mint mark.
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any plans for more high relief mintage similar to 2009 UHR >>




    they could only speak to long-term plans.

    from what I gathered from the sales guys, long-term for them was 12-24 months. but that could be a question, barring the congressionally mandated changes and commems, how far out do they plan their numismatic offerings? Do they actively provide input to congress on changes and commems? unsolicited input or only when solicited?


    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ask them how ASE are processed before and after they are struck; that is, are they washed in some solution? Basically, I would be interested to know if they have any idea why some ASE's milk spot so badly. They might not know enough about the production of the coins to offer an intelligent answer but I would be interested if they do have some insight. Of course, it is quite likely the powers at PCGS have already made this inquiry ... >>




    I get the P pucks with what I call chocolate milk spots that don't wash off with acetone. It looks exactly like a semi-translucent/semi-opaque brown milk stain.

    there are also a LOT of spots on coins struck for circulation, especially in the last few years and especially on the cents. What processes are involved there and can't we have more pride to do better with these things?




    what are their opinions on ridding ourselves of the nickle and cent?
    anything to divulge on the new material front as of before they left?

    did they or were there future plans to actively recruit or solicit design submissions from the body of USA's ar and design schools?
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why the small design changes over the years to the coins? were these changes passed through the artistic commitees?(because some stink- eg new eagle legs on half dollar)

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting...

    Food for thought:
    List of three things they wanted to do at the mint but could not and of course why.
    What do they think would be the most surprising US Mint tidbit of info to us...uncommon facts.

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Ask them why they still can't fix the ordering process when a hot item hits.....why their customer service sucks.
    Ask them why they make "collector" items, but then leave collectors in the dust when follow-up items aren't done due to sucky sales (ie...should never have started in the first place, or should finish them off anyway).

    I also agree to ask about the SAEs and the rinse/spotting.

    What is the real reason that they don't always use the USPS....is it just pricing or is it something else logistical?

    Ask why the designs are allowed to be stale (ie...kennedy, Roosevelt, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln....all have been on the obverses quite awhile).

    Ask why the push for edge lettering on the dollar that included the mintmark....what was it supposed to hide? It was poorly thought out and poorly executed. >>




    all these will have to be past tense questions since both are retired.

    Congress mandated the date and "EPU" and formerly "IGWT" on the edge of the dollars. no mention of mint mark. >>





    Yes, I know they are not in their previous positions, however, I believe what was known and in place then is still the same now, which is why I left it in present tense.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The book on Silver Eagles clearly addresses the milk spot issue.. and there is no answer. Cheers, RickO
  • 92vette92vette Posts: 529 ✭✭✭
    Here's a question for them: Does the mint have any records of how many of the '99-W 'unfinished proof dies' $5 and $10 A.G.E. were struck? Is the $50 unc '99-w anything more than a rumor?
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    Thanks, all, for your questions. I'll try to work as many as possible into the discussion.




  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does he wish he could have stopped the Mint from melting the unsold UHRs?

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what was the length of time nonsense pieces a/k/a patterns and trials were kept? were all kept? how did they decide which to keep and no? policy on computer design records retention?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The book on Silver Eagles clearly addresses the milk spot issue.. and there is no answer. Cheers, RickO >>

    Put the NSA on it.
    Lance.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to know their thoughts on the dcarr "things" that are supposed"fantasy" pieces....peace dollar, 1963 Kennedy, etc

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Put the NSA on it >>



    image Good one Lance....Cheers, RickO
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone recall the Q&A and can re-tell it here?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bueller?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    image

    Saturday’s morning roundtable with Ed Moy and John Mercanti was a big hit at the Whitman Baltimore Expo. The
    retired U.S. Mint director and Mint chief engraver had an audience that was both involved and enthusiastic.

    The roundtable was a conversational discussion with slideshow illustrations, followed by a question-and-answer
    session with the audience, as well as some questions submitted online from coin enthusiasts. Moy closed
    the hour-plus conversation with a touching, almost poetic, analysis of the symbolism of the Saint-Gaudens
    double eagle, and the audience actually burst into cheers and applause.

    Ed Moy and John Mercanti make a great team: vibrant, funny, with lots of good information and experience to
    share. They engage the audience from many angles and can pull from a rich variety of topics off the top of their
    heads: technical, artistic, relating to production/manufacturing, supply/demand, collectors and investors, legislative
    issues, touching on all levels of federal government, design, engraving, modern-day techniques vs. classic U.S.
    Mint, and much more.

    image

    Some of the questions:

    - to John Mercanti: "When you were working at the Mint, did you feel the weight of history, following in the
    footsteps of great artists and coin designers like Frank Gasparro, Gilroy Roberts, Adolph Weinman, and others?
    Or was it just like any other job?"

    - to Ed Moy: "What were some of the challenges the Mint faced when demand for gold quintupled after the
    Crash of 2008?"

    - to John: "What are some of your favorite or most interesting coin designs?"

    - to Ed: "Where do you see gold going over the next couple years?"

    - to John: "If you could redesign all of America's circulating coins, what would you do?"

    - to Ed: "What was your motivation behind the Ultra High Relief 2009 double eagle?"

    Those are just a few of the questions that came up during the conversation and in the Q&A portion. It was
    a great presentation, lots of fun to participate in. David Lisot videotaped it, so it will be available on CD if
    you couldn't make the show.



  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will be happy when the gold and platinum book is available....Cheers, RickO
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    We had a few cases of advance copies at the Baltimore Expo. If they didn't sell out completely,
    you might be able to place your order at Whitman.com today and grab up one of the advance
    copies before the scheduled 12/3/2013 rollout.

    Looking through my notes, other questions included:

    - to Ed Moy: Did you go into Fort Knox, and is the government's gold really in there?
    - to Ed Moy: Why can't you just say, "I want to change all of America's circulating coinage," and make it happen?
    - to Ed Moy: What do you think should happen with the Langbord family's 1933 double eagles?
    - to John Mercanti: Tell us about the Statue of Liberty commemorative coins.
    - to both: Does the Mint actively recruit or solicit design submissions from the students of the USA's art and design schools?
    - to both: Is there a policy on retaining computer design records showing different stages of the design process?


  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a great event and it looks like some great questions were asked. I'd be interested in the responses for sure. I'm guessing this isn't going to be posted up on YouTube but will be sold? Details? Thanks.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,703 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd have been intrerested to know if Mr Moy believes the huge improvements
    in mint quality of circulating coinage in recent years is in response to customer
    demand.
    Tempus fugit.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    Saturday’s morning roundtable with Ed Moy and John Mercanti was a big hit at the Whitman Baltimore Expo. The
    retired U.S. Mint director and Mint chief engraver had an audience that was both involved and enthusiastic.

    The roundtable was a conversational discussion with slideshow illustrations, followed by a question-and-answer
    session with the audience, as well as some questions submitted online from coin enthusiasts. Moy closed
    the hour-plus conversation with a touching, almost poetic, analysis of the symbolism of the Saint-Gaudens
    double eagle, and the audience actually burst into cheers and applause.

    Ed Moy and John Mercanti make a great team: vibrant, funny, with lots of good information and experience to
    share. They engage the audience from many angles and can pull from a rich variety of topics off the top of their
    heads: technical, artistic, relating to production/manufacturing, supply/demand, collectors and investors, legislative
    issues, touching on all levels of federal government, design, engraving, modern-day techniques vs. classic U.S.
    Mint, and much more.

    image

    Some of the questions:

    - to John Mercanti: "When you were working at the Mint, did you feel the weight of history, following in the
    footsteps of great artists and coin designers like Frank Gasparro, Gilroy Roberts, Adolph Weinman, and others?
    Or was it just like any other job?"

    - to Ed Moy: "What were some of the challenges the Mint faced when demand for gold quintupled after the
    Crash of 2008?"

    - to John: "What are some of your favorite or most interesting coin designs?"

    - to Ed: "Where do you see gold going over the next couple years?"

    - to John: "If you could redesign all of America's circulating coins, what would you do?"

    - to Ed: "What was your motivation behind the Ultra High Relief 2009 double eagle?"

    Those are just a few of the questions that came up during the conversation and in the Q&A portion. It was
    a great presentation, lots of fun to participate in. David Lisot videotaped it, so it will be available on CD if
    you couldn't make the show. >>



    Don't know of him.
    How can we get the CD?
    Thanks!
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file