<< <i>So let me get this straight..you can call him a scumbag/ POS and any other sorted name calling.. but wishing a disease fall prey on him crosses the line. >>
Are you friggin serious? You are saying that calling someone a POS and ANY other name you can think of ... is the same as saying they should DIE from Cancer? Please stop drinking immediately!
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>The only harm I wish Obama is impeachment but ain't happening so I am just glad he only has 2 more years - so cut the feigned indignation. >>
Was it anything like the feigned indignation you exhibited on the boards a short while back and your tirade and exit stage left (only to be back within a few short weeks)?
<< <i>That has to go down in history as one of the most unintended ironic statements ever! I hope the guy repented his misdeeds, the fact that this clown was a church leader, taught Sunday School and in his off-time doctored cards and took advantage of fellow collectors - screw him - he got what he deserved IMO.
I apologize for stating that you said "wished it" upon him. I was wrong and I take that back.
HOWEVER, to say "SCREW HIM - HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED" is just as pathetic. He lied, cheated and stole money from our fellow collectors. Do you believe every scumbag that sells doctored cards deserves to get Cancer and die???????????????????? >>
Wow is that really what he said and then edited out?
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
I will agree there. I probably should have kept my mouth shut. As for my indignation. I remember posting my views on card movements and having several people immediately accusing me of trying to "manipulate" the market and other behaviors while "investigating" my bidding habits. Same people now screaming at me for being insensitve about an actual fraud. Imagine how many doctored cards are in the hands of collectors and how many doctored cards would be created over the next 10 to 20 years... Doug, I know that cancer is personal to you, so I should have been more sensitive but my views are what they are - sorry about that - you'all have every right to jump on them.
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
Exactly!
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I do think there is a big difference about death and being worried about X amount of doctored cards by one person out of how many billions? Yeah, I think it is terrible of what he did but to leave this life this early is very sad.
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Someone should post a timeline of events here. No background here so I could be a good judge.
What I see so far is the guys eBay stuff was cool up till a month or so before demise. If the guy was dieing of cancer within a month of these negative feed backs etc then cut the dude a break. His brain probably wasn't right. If the guy was faking the religion like a catholic priest and stealing peoples souls and worse for years, then he got the cancer her deserved and his family/friends should pay for it, and blame him and have to deal with it themselves without any support for it.
His eBay stuff, if near the end should be given a pass. If all have previous history on this guy for being a db, then he rots like he should. It's simple.
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
Exactly! >>
Agreed.
Thoughts and prayers to his family.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
and ask yourself this one simple question: How would I want to be remembered when I die? >>
Agreed. Our theme for our church services this quarter is titled: Legacy - How do you want to be remembered? This thread hits right at home. I've never had dealings with Waverly but am aware of his practices and only a couple of hours away from his hometown. Prayers for his family.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>I never professed to be a nice guy - in addition to his doctoring career...let me ask you, if you knew you were dying of cancer and could go at anytime; would you be auctioning off cards one at a time without any contingency plan to complete transactions in the case of an emergency? Just irresponsible at best; I believe the guy was scum and to be a church leader makes it doubly bad. I don't "wish" harm on anyone (except Obama) but like others have stated karma is a b* >>
You really wish harm on the President? Now that is sad. >>
Maybe he had financial problems (many people do when battling cancer). It doesn't make his actions right, obviously, but some people do out of character things when confronted with disease and financial hardships.
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<< <i>So let me get this straight..you can call him a scumbag/ POS and any other sorted name calling.. but wishing a disease fall prey on him crosses the line. >>
Are you friggin serious? You are saying that calling someone a POS and ANY other name you can think of ... is the same as saying they should DIE from Cancer? Please stop drinking immediately!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>The only harm I wish Obama is impeachment but ain't happening so I am just glad he only has 2 more years - so cut the feigned indignation. >>
Was it anything like the feigned indignation you exhibited on the boards a short while back and your tirade and exit stage left (only to be back within a few short weeks)?
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<< <i>That has to go down in history as one of the most unintended ironic statements ever! I hope the guy repented his misdeeds, the fact that this clown was a church leader, taught Sunday School and in his off-time doctored cards and took advantage of fellow collectors - screw him - he got what he deserved IMO.
I apologize for stating that you said "wished it" upon him. I was wrong and I take that back.
HOWEVER, to say "SCREW HIM - HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED" is just as pathetic. He lied, cheated and stole money from our fellow collectors. Do you believe every scumbag that sells doctored cards deserves to get Cancer and die???????????????????? >>
Wow is that really what he said and then edited out?
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
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<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
Definitely preferable to putting your foot in your mouth and then deleting comments
Where exactly is the line? For instance, I'm pretty sure no one would be defending Bernie Maddoff if someone wished cancer on him.
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
I will agree there. I probably should have kept my mouth shut.
As for my indignation. I remember posting my views on card movements and having several people immediately accusing me of trying to "manipulate" the market and other behaviors while "investigating" my bidding habits. Same people now screaming at me for being insensitve about an actual fraud. Imagine how many doctored cards are in the hands of collectors and how many doctored cards would be created over the next 10 to 20 years...
Doug, I know that cancer is personal to you, so I should have been more sensitive but my views are what they are - sorry about that - you'all have every right to jump on them.
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
Exactly!
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
<< <i>Same people now screaming at me for being insensitve about an actual fraud. >>
Do not believe the end result of this thread which caused you to respond had anything to do with fraud.
What I see so far is the guys eBay stuff was cool up till a month or so before demise. If the guy was dieing of cancer within a month of these negative feed backs etc then cut the dude a break. His brain probably wasn't right. If the guy was faking the religion like a catholic priest and stealing peoples souls and worse for years, then he got the cancer her deserved and his family/friends should pay for it, and blame him and have to deal with it themselves without any support for it.
His eBay stuff, if near the end should be given a pass. If all have previous history on this guy for being a db, then he rots like he should. It's simple.
<< <i>
<< <i>I feel this is a situation where if you have nothing nice to say then you shouldn't say anything. >>
Exactly! >>
Agreed.
Thoughts and prayers to his family.
and ask yourself this one simple question: How would I want to be remembered when I die?
<< <i>this is a good lesson for all of us.
and ask yourself this one simple question: How would I want to be remembered when I die? >>
Agreed. Our theme for our church services this quarter is titled: Legacy - How do you want to be remembered? This thread hits right at home. I've never had dealings with Waverly but am aware of his practices and only a couple of hours away from his hometown. Prayers for his family.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>I never professed to be a nice guy
You really wish harm on the President? Now that is sad. >>
Maybe he had financial problems (many people do when battling cancer). It doesn't make his actions right, obviously, but some people do out of character things when confronted with disease and financial hardships.