Added Another Vermont Rarity to the Collection, 1788 Ryder 21

ambro51

1788 was a very prolific year for the Machins Mill operation. Quality though was slipping and dies were not as carefully made. Quite a few of their Vermont contract issues suffer from what Tony Carlotto called "tragic dies". Even though all Vermonts except the Baby Head Ryder 9 develop cracks, cuds, splits.....and the Ryder 21 is a coin in this group. The reverse developed an immense crack up through the date, and is seen in a changing look on all examples known. This coin is a very early die state, with even wear and better than average eye appeal. The Ryder 21 is rated R5 with about 50 extant. Very difficult to find above VF, and known as the "easiest" of the second tier of Vermont Rarities, it still amazes me with its relative affordability. This coin puts me at 13 varieties in the Vermont Series, the Goal being Thirty. I've worked this series trying to get the rarities and then fill in the common pieces later. ~~~~~. To those who haven't explored Vermonts yet, I can tell you from experience this series has captured my attention in a way nothing else has. If YOU are stuck in the "Federal Rut" pull yourself out and get some Green Mountain Copper. It will change you! Enjoy! 1788 Vermont Bust Right Ryder 21. I'd grade this F+/F. .

ricko

Very nice.... old copper is intriguing... when I lived in Seattle there was a show in Kent that always had a table of old copper. Beautiful display and quality pieces.... I would spend a significant bit of time at that table... Cheers, RickO

TireKicker

Congrats

DIMEMAN

Congrats!

DorkGirl

You sure have been busy lately, congrats!

ambro51

Vermont collectors are blessed with possibly the most informative reference available. Tony Carlotto illustrates the two die states. Here's EDS which he says "Most specimens are in a later state with early strikes rare". Considering an extant population of 50, then possibly only a dozen of so are EDS. . Late die state coins not only have the briefly used reverse R breaking apart but it is also the last use of workhorse obverse die 10 which was used with nine different varieties. Some dies were of better steel and were "lucky".

halfhunter

Well done sir. Never realized that were so many varieties . . .
Would love to see the pictures of that collection all grouped together!

HH

keyman64

Well done.

MrEureka

I can tell you from experience this series has captured my attention in a way nothing else has

Really glad to hear that! Are you going to do a registry set?

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johnny9434

congrats

ambro51

I just noticed the reverse figure... the head... It looks like George Washington.

nags

I totally agree with realone - I really enjoy and learn from your threads. This is an area that I have absolutely no knowledge, but each time you post a coin I consider, for a very very brief second, starting to collect them.

ambro51

Vermonts are really delightful. Picture the Rupert Mint, built on a hillside next to a brook. It was 16 by 18 feet. The operators were a store clerk and a 14 year old boy. It's amazing they did what they did.

Staircoins

Really enjoy reading your threads, Ambro.

Congrats on the pickup and thanks for sharing.