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Mile High Auctions has corrected the problem. Thanks to all who were SERIOUS with their advice!

bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
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Thank you to the young lady at Mile High.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭✭
    This is a scan of the back of his '87 Fleer card. I'm sure it was just a mix up.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Here is the 1986:
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    The one in question is the 1987.
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    EDITED AFTER SHAGROTN77 EXPLAINED.
    STAY HEALTHY!

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    ok...so they just accidentally put the wrong scan with the auction...thank you!
  • UnwoundSageUnwoundSage Posts: 496
    So a major auction house accidentally puts up the wrong scan for a $1700 card? Would make me feel warm and fuzzy about sending them a card to auction.
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭


    << <i>So a major auction house accidentally puts up the wrong scan for a $1700 card? Would make me feel warm and fuzzy about sending them a card to auction. >>



    I'm sure you've never made a mistake, you should notify them you can do the job perfectly.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I guess they have been notified ... correct scan is now up.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess they have been notified ... correct scan is now up >>



    I called them Doug.
  • UnwoundSageUnwoundSage Posts: 496


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    << <i>So a major auction house accidentally puts up the wrong scan for a $1700 card? Would make me feel warm and fuzzy about sending them a card to auction. >>



    I'm sure you've never made a mistake, you should notify them you can do the job perfectly. >>



    When multiple mistakes are made every single time they run an auction, doesn't look good.
  • ToppsFanToppsFan Posts: 88


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    << <i>So a major auction house accidentally puts up the wrong scan for a $1700 card? Would make me feel warm and fuzzy about sending them a card to auction. >>



    I'm sure you've never made a mistake, you should notify them you can do the job perfectly. >>



    When multiple mistakes are made every single time they run an auction, doesn't look good. >>




    Glad to see this fixed and that they respond to comments. For the volume of items Mile High handles I am surprised this does not happen more often, although maybe it does, and people just do not notice it or call attention to it.
  • JuggsJuggs Posts: 495 ✭
    What's Mile High's reputation? Are the a pretty strong auction house?
  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    They have a very good reputation. Brian Drent has been running auctions starting in the late 1990's, and is a great guy to deal with.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Has anyone ever seen a Michael Jordan rookie that looked like this?? Pay special attention to the back. It even says #59 out of 132 when Jordan's card was #57....

    Fake Jordan

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    Before calling something a fake, wouldn't it be prudent to do a little research (maybe the OP has no idea what the difference is between the back of an '86 and an '87) or title the thread what it really was, an image assignment error? No, bash the auction house in the title for making a mistake (yes, I understand that there were other errors in this auction).

    Heaven forbid it were a Milton Bradley, because we all know others here NEVER make mistakes.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A quick Google search for 1987 Fleer Michael Jordan would have answered your question.

    q=1987+fleer+michael+jordan&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mltTUtOCNcbQhAeAo4CwBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=643&dpr=1">1987 Fleer


    In the fourth row and six over you will find your answer.

    I personally think doing a little research before one assumes something is fraudulent is always smart.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea what a Milton Bradley looks like....but I know what a Topps looks like...wanna see?

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I personally think doing a little research before one assumes something is fraudulent is always smart. >>



    I understand what you are saying Dpeck, but isn't this the same auction house that sold a compromised 1956 Mantle?

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    Forgive me for thinking the worse. And I made a mistake. But it is totally not my fault, and it is easy to see why I thought what I did....
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm trying to figure out why everybody seems to pick on the OP? I gotta be late to the party. >>



    Gives them something to do. I am passionate about the hobby and it confuses a lot of people. And yes, Mile High hired Greg Rice. Not sure about the photo mix up, but they were quick to handle the matter for that particular card. Not quite sure whatever became of the 1956 Mantle however....
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Making comments AFTER the OP has contacted the auction house and the error was rectified is in poor taste. Since when is doing the right thing frowned upon?
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  • Foo3112Foo3112 Posts: 1,961
    Making comments AFTER the OP has contacted the auction house and the error was rectified is in poor taste. Since when is doing the right thing frowned upon?

    Well said Maddux.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doing a little due diligence is needed before you suggest fraud is taking place. The OP didn't do any.

    I don't think posting after the fact is in poor taste at all. When you start a thread like this you will get some responses you don't like.

  • Foo3112Foo3112 Posts: 1,961
    I agree with you Dpeck, I thought the same exact thing. It takes 15-30 seconds to check but then once the error is corrected with help from the OP, some still feel the need to take shots when its not necessary. Problem solved, okay, lets move on. Lets see some cool cards from our members.
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clearly the posts made after the fact were intentionally negative. This forum is used to enhance the hobby as a whole and the comments in no way added value to the thread.
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Bottom line...a problem got fixed....and I am more than happy to help, no matter how many people here want to vilify me. Too many people on here like to pass the buck and sit on their hands. The most they are willing to do is talk s***t about someone. That is not me.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess it is just a difference of opinion. I think suggesting a seller is committing fraudulent activity is serious. I highly doubt the auction house would like to see a thread on a highly trafficked site suggesting they are selling fake cards.

    The internet has made it easy to throw stones and I think if you are going to do it you need some evidence and in this case a quick search would have answered the question.



  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess it is just a difference of opinion. I think suggesting a seller is committing fraudulent activity is serious. I highly doubt the auction house would like to see a thread on a highly trafficked site suggesting they are selling fake cards.

    The internet has made it easy to throw stones and I think if you are going to do it you need some evidence and in this case a quick search would have answered the question. >>



    Exactly...
  • MauriceMaurice Posts: 1,136
    Well said, Dpeck.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    Brian Drent is the man- one of the good guys in the hobby. Greg H. Rice is a stud too. Good people that are willing to help a collector at anytime. No one is perfect - mistakes happen.
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Bobby, what was the outcome of this situation?
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Everything A-OK. Scans fixed.
  • MauriceMaurice Posts: 1,136


    << <i>Everything A-OK. Scans fixed. >>


    Thanks Bobby. I'll sleep much better tonight.
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317
    I find it really interesting that an expert with so much knowledge about cards doesn't know what the back of 1986 Fleer basketball, one of the most popular sets of all time, looks like.
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317
    Check out this Milton Bradley!!!

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  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    Stormtrooper- You find it interesting that he does not know the difference between 86/87 basketball vs. 87/88 basketball? Really do you think that is the case? A mistake was made in printing the catalog in scanning. All of these auction companies including Probstein and PWCC make errors like this all the time.

    I think it is interesting that you are in a sports forum with some icon of a Star Wars figure. That does not mean that you don't know sports cards. We all make mistakes-stop trying to bash someone for nothing.
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  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317


    << <i>Stormtrooper- You find it interesting that he does not know the difference between 86/87 basketball vs. 87/88 basketball? Really do you think that is the case? A mistake was made in printing the catalog in scanning. All of these auction companies including Probstein and PWCC make errors like this all the time.
    >>



    It was OBVIOUSLY a listing mistake! That's everyone's point here. The OP and original title of the thread used the word FAKE. That proves that either he doesn't know the difference between the back of 1986 and 1987 Fleer basketball or he DID know the difference and was just trying to cause trouble. Which one do you think it was? Either way, it's pretty sad, lame and funny.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    my bad stormtrooper. I made a mistake and took your post towards Drent.
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The OP and original title of the thread used the word FAKE. That proves that either he doesn't know the difference between the back of 1986 and 1987 Fleer basketball or he DID know the difference and was just trying to cause trouble >>



    It did say "fake", but it also had two question marks at the end.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Either way, it's pretty sad, lame and funny. >>



    This is the only place in the world where a person can be called "sad, lame and funny" for not recognizing a 1988 Fleer basketball trading card's back design.
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  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317


    << <i>

    << <i>Either way, it's pretty sad, lame and funny. >>



    This is the only place in the world where a person can be called "sad, lame and funny" for not recognizing a 1988 Fleer basketball trading card's back design. >>



    It was actually 1986 Fleer. A fairly popular set. More specifically, it's the MJ rookie; one of the most popular cards ever.

    And for someone who has no issue about arguing tooth and nail against everyone here over Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan RCs and other card-related issues, it's pretty darn sad, lame AND funny that the same person would have little knowledge of such a popular card.

    And rather than stop and think for just one second, "Hmmm, should I at least do a little research on this card and discover pretty easily that it was just a simple listing error?", this person decides to post on a message board that an auction house is selling a FAKE Michael Jordan RC.

    First Class all the way!!

  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It was actually 1986 Fleer. A fairly popular set. More specifically, it's the MJ rookie; one of the most popular cards ever.

    And for someone who has no issue about arguing tooth and nail against everyone here over Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan RCs and other card-related issues, it's pretty darn sad, lame AND funny that the same person would have little knowledge of such a popular card.

    And rather than stop and think for just one second, "Hmmm, should I at least do a little research on this card and discover pretty easily that it was just a simple listing error?", this person decides to post on a message board that an auction house is selling a FAKE Michael Jordan RC.

    First Class all the way!! >>



    I'm pretty sure the OP was asking a question not stating any sort of opinion. I'm not too familiar with either Milton Bradley cards or Basketball cards, but to criticize a person for not recognizing the design of the BACK of a 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan trading card is hardly "First Class all the way!!"

    Lead by example and be a positive influence on this forum.

    It's just my opinion on the matter,
    Jason
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  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    The OP is very familiar with the Jordan rookie card, particularly the back, as he's made a small fortune flipping them over the years. In this old thread started by the OP he passes on some tips on the art of flipping Jordan rookies and customer service.

    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=800502&STARTPAGE=1
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    ..and when I see one that doesn't look right, then I notice it.....your point?? Why must the same usual suspects attack me in every thread. I could offer each one of you (the usual suspects) a million dolalrs, and you would find a way to attack me about that as well....pathetic.
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The OP is very familiar with the Jordan rookie card, particularly the back, as he's made a small fortune flipping them over the years. In this old thread started by the OP he passes on some tips on the art of flipping Jordan rookies and customer service.

    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=800502&STARTPAGE=1 >>



    Oh no not that thread again.
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Is that the thread where the buyer didn't agree with the grade that PSA assigned to the card? So basically, I sent it in under PSA's "grade guarantee" service and PSA returned the card saying that the grade was indeed correct for the card?? Not sure how PSA's agreeing with a grade on the card makes me look bad - sorry Usual Suspects!!! Try stepping up to the plate again....
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317
    Oh wow! How could I forget about that $8 profit? Of course he knows what the back of a Jordan RC looks like!

    Ok then sir. Knowing that, so therefore knowing that the picture in the listing was obviously a mistake, why would you choose to hurl accusations of a fake Jordan against the auction house? I'm not just trying to pile on, I'm asking a serious question here.
  • goraidersgoraiders Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh wow! How could I forget about that $8 profit? Of course he knows what the back of a Jordan RC looks like!

    Ok then sir. Knowing that, so therefore knowing that the picture in the listing was obviously a mistake, why would you choose to hurl accusations of a fake Jordan against the auction house? I'm not just trying to pile on, I'm asking a serious question here. >>



    Maybe just maybe a mistake on his card?image
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I did not know that. I am not familiar with the backs of other Jordans with the exception of the 1986 rookie card. I had no clue what the original back they had up was (card #59) Sorry. Moderns aren't my thing. Next?
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    It just tickles me to no end how I somehow wind up getting blamed for an auction houses mistake. I get blamed for a card graders mistake. I get blamed because someone else trimmed a card and stuck me with it. I get blamed because I bought a fake card at the local card show. The hits keep coming and coming. Pathetic.
  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭


    << <i>It just tickles me to no end how I somehow wind up getting blamed for an auction houses mistake. I get blamed for a card graders mistake. I get blamed because someone else trimmed a card and stuck me with it. I get blamed because I bought a fake card at the local card show. The hits keep coming and coming. Pathetic. >>



    I'm blaming Bobby for the last century or so of pathetic Cubs baseball too.
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
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