Unopened boxes not seen in a while
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When was the last time you have seen a 1971 Topps baseball box for sale (any series)? I have seen a couple of vending boxes but not wax. I can recall a 1970 back a couple of years ago and I have seen 1972 Topps and up, but the 1971 Topps box is one that I have not seen for a long while. What other 1970's unopened boxes from other sports have been absent from the market place?
For basketball I don't think I have ever seen a 1970-71 Topps box come to market. For some reason 1976 Topps boxes baseball and football seem to be the most difficult to find for sale from 1973-1985. Any thoughts?
For basketball I don't think I have ever seen a 1970-71 Topps box come to market. For some reason 1976 Topps boxes baseball and football seem to be the most difficult to find for sale from 1973-1985. Any thoughts?
Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
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REA had a 1970-71 basketball box this year. Sold for $24K. Solid.
I haven't seen a nice 1975 Topps baseball wax box - regular size - in more than a year. I still need one. I haven't seen many 1976 or 1977 Topps baseball wax boxes either. I thought/was hoping I'd be seeing more of those. Seen a fair number of 1978, even more 1979, and even more 1980.
I don't know much about non-baseball, but also in baseball, 1971 and 1973-1976 OPC wax boxes seem to be very difficult to locate, particularly 1971 and 1974.
<< <i>Great question. Last 1971 Topps baseball wax box I saw sold was about four years ago.
REA had a 1970-71 basketball box this year. Sold for $24K. Solid.
I haven't seen a nice 1975 Topps baseball wax box - regular size - in more than a year. I still need one. I haven't seen many 1976 or 1977 Topps baseball wax boxes either. I thought/was hoping I'd be seeing more of those. Seen a fair number of 1978, even more 1979, and even more 1980.
I don't know much about non-baseball, but also in baseball, 1971 and 1973-1976 OPC wax boxes seem to be very difficult to locate, particularly 1971 and 1974. >>
74 OPC baseball wax is a beast--difficult enough to find single packs much less a full box. It is even tougher than '71 OPC.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I know nothing about non-sport cards but are there any of those boxes that have any large value from the 1970's Tim?
<< <i>Wow!! I missed seeing the 70-71 Topps unopened box in REA. I would assume that the box housed 24 packs? I have not seen many OPC boxes offered up either. I would love to get my hands on a 1976 Topps cello baseball box. I would have bought that box of BBCE if he had it on his website.
I know nothing about non-sport cards but are there any of those boxes that have any large value from the 1970's Tim? >>
I don't have any knowledge in reference to non-sports packs/boxes, but PaulMaul (David) and bigdcards (Darren) are pretty well versed with them.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979
<< <i>From what I have seen the toughest unopened baseball boxes from the 1970's are in this order (toughest to easier).
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979 >>
I agree with that list.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I know nothing about non-sport cards but are there any of those boxes that have any large value from the 1970's Tim? >>
I just asked Reed on Facebook when was the last time he has seen an unopened case of 1978 Topps Battlestar Galactica, and he said it has been years. He did however say that he knows of a dealer on the west coast that has a couple cases.
Paul.
Later, Paul.
-I don't think I've ever seen a 73/74 topps rack box. You see individual racks here and there, but never a box.
-69/70 is a pretty tough year. I think there was a box in a memory lane auction a few years ago. Besides that, you almost never see much quantity from that year.
<< <i>From what I have seen the toughest unopened baseball boxes from the 1970's are in this order (toughest to easier).
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979 >>
I would add 1975 and make that number 3 on your list. I might move 1974 one slot ahead of 1976. I think, as odd as it may look to have 1972 and 1973 listed where they are given current pricing, that this is pretty accurate based on availability over the last few years. This may change now that Fritsch is just about sold out - or so it is said. I won more 1978 than anything else, so I don't think I am being biased when I say that 1977 has been much more difficult to find the last couple of years than 1978 by a pretty wide margin. I would slot 1975 Mini 8 or 9 (before adding 1975). Again, just based on relative availability the last few years. I expect this will change.
<< <i>I would love to get my hands on a 1976 Topps cello baseball box. I would have bought that box of BBCE if he had it on his website. >>
That box was on his website and I bought it. I think it was on a Sunday. Mark had mentioned to me that he would have liked it for the group break that same day. I gave up the box to Mark and the rest is part of CU lore, lol.
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<< <i>From what I have seen the toughest unopened baseball boxes from the 1970's are in this order (toughest to easier).
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979 >>
I agree with that list. >>
Shame on you MR. MINI ... how can you leave '75 off the list?
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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<< <i>From what I have seen the toughest unopened baseball boxes from the 1970's are in this order (toughest to easier).
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979 >>
I agree with that list. >>
Shame on you MR. MINI ... how can you leave '75 off the list? >>
Lol, I didn't even notice that! I would put 75 mini near bottom and regular 75 at No. 4 or 5.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>From what I have seen the toughest unopened baseball boxes from the 1970's are in this order (toughest to easier).
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6 1972
7 1973
8 1978
9 1979 >>
I agree with that list. >>
Shame on you MR. MINI ... how can you leave '75 off the list? >>
Lol, I didn't even notice that! I would put 75 mini near bottom and regular 75 at No. 4 or 5. >>
Isn't that really based solely on what BBCE has had? I think because he has had 1975 Minis in stock for a while now they are considered the least rare, but I think that's far from the case. Steve just happened to come across a few nice cases
TheClockworkAngelCollection
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I know nothing about non-sport cards but are there any of those boxes that have any large value from the 1970's Tim? >>
I don't have any knowledge in reference to non-sports packs/boxes, but PaulMaul (David) and bigdcards (Darren) are pretty well versed with them. >>
I can only speak to Wacky Packages. Given the 1973-1975 timeframe, full boxes are a lot rarer than you would think. The problem is, baseball cards were already an established hobby and so (as Fritsch demonstrates) were being hoarded to some degree. Flash in the pan releases like wackys were largely ignored. Empty boxes sell for roughly 10 times sports card boxes of the same area.
As for full boxes, it varies by series.
Series 1: non-existent, I know someone who has a partial box of 30 packs, that's it
Series 2-5: very rare, I have owned a series 2 and 3 box in the past, but they never turn up
Series 6 and 7: much more common, a couple cases turned up of the 7th gumless and 6ths I believe
Series 8: packs seem common, full boxes less so
Series 9 and 10: by far the most plentiful, full cases were found
Series 11: non-existent
Series 12: packs very common, boxes less so
Series 13 and 15: considerably less common, but do exist
Series 14: ultra common
Series 16: rarest cards, because they weren't distributed at the time, but cases have been found, so while expensive, the boxes do exist, though many have been opened
BBCE has not had much from the 1970's or early 1980's. So their is many boxes that can be named.
Dave
2000 Upper Deck SP Racing
1. 1971
2. 1970
3. 1976
4. 1974
5. 1977
6. 1972
7. 1973
8. 1975 REG
9. 1978
10. 1975 Mini
11. 1979
I know this looks crazy but this list is based on what I have seen in the past couple of years. Of course this could change next year depending on what comes out.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>The plentiful supply of mini boxes is due to REA not BBCE. >>
Actually due to a test distribution and a collector that had the foresight to hoard them.
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<< <i>Okay so out of the decade of cards what is the most expensive year/series? Would the 1971 Topps high number series be worth more than the first series? >>
I think prices would be close across series. While on a card by card basis the seventh series cards are the most scarce, there's a lack of star power. First series has Rose. Second series has Seaver. Third series has Garvey. Fourth series has Aaron and Ryan. Sixth series has Clemente.
<< <i>Does anyone know if the 1970-71 Topps Basketball box was 24 packs? Also, which series was it and how was the condition? >>
It was 24 packs. I do not believe basketball was issued in series. Condition was very nice. Here is a photo.
I think that is the oldest box that I have seen in a while other than the 1959 Topps cello box out on Ebay right now.
BBCE has the 12 pack variety for sale now.
I am trying to find a picture of the '70/71 box I got from Steve last year. Also a very rare box--it is a series 2 box with Maravich. Those boxes, as did the '69/70 boxes--contained 24 packs.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I still cringe when I see that 1970 wax box knowing what follows.. >>
I am guessing a rip fest!!
Jmaciu's Collection
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<< <i>I still cringe when I see that 1970 wax box knowing what follows.. >>
I am guessing a rip fest!!
You could say that. Here's a link for those not around then to enjoy.
This box is coming home to Poppa!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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<< <i>I still cringe when I see that 1970 wax box knowing what follows.. >>
I am guessing a rip fest!!
You could say that. Here's a link for those not around then to enjoy.
This box is coming home to Poppa! >>
Was it always the plan to open it or did you give into temptation??
<< <i>I would love to find out what happened with that box. Can you imagine how much fun that would be to open that bad boy? If it were me I would open up all except for the best four or five packs and submit those for grading. >>
Normally, I'd agree with that, even though I am unopened collector primarily, but that box is so rare, it would have been nice to keep it intact. IIRC, Nikklos ripped all the packs. The packs were nicer than the cards within, unfortunately.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Does anyone know if the 1970-71 Topps Basketball box was 24 packs? Also, which series was it and how was the condition? >>
It was 24 packs. I do not believe basketball was issued in series. Condition was very nice. Here is a photo.
1970/71 is the only year in the 70's that came in 2 different series
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
Stingray - there was never any doubt - I bought that box and ripped it as fast as I could! And if another box turns up, I'd do it again.
Grote - Honestly, the 1970 box was on par with most every box I've ever opened. About two gradeable cards per pack. I think the perception was that the box was bad because the results were posted card-by-card. If I had posted highlights, the results would have appeared better (but it would have been less enlightening). I did wind up ripping all the packs but I think I got tired of posting by the 8th or 9th pack so I stopped. It was like work!
A lot of really great cards came from that box. Did I wind up whole after the rip? Honestly, not that far off it turns out. But even if I were down a couple grand, ripping that box was like taking two trips to Tahiti. Can't even begin to describe how fun it was. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
Mike - you posted the pre-rip link - not any of the good stuff!!
<< <i>Was it always the plan to open it or did you give into temptation??
Stingray - there was never any doubt - I bought that box and ripped it as fast as I could! And if another box turns up, I'd do it again.
Grote - Honestly, the 1970 box was on par with most every box I've ever opened. About two gradeable cards per pack. I think the perception was that the box was bad because the results were posted card-by-card. If I had posted highlights, the results would have appeared better (but it would have been less enlightening). I did wind up ripping all the packs but I think I got tired of posting by the 8th or 9th pack so I stopped. It was like work!
A lot of really great cards came from that box. Did I wind up whole after the rip? Honestly, not that far off it turns out. But even if I were down a couple grand, ripping that box was like taking two trips to Tahiti. Can't even begin to describe how fun it was. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
Mike - you posted the pre-rip link - not any of the good stuff!! >>
If you rip another vintage box like that, you should video it and post it to youtube and provide a link here. Much easier than scanning every card/pack and better theater!
If you rip another vintage box like that, you should video it and post it to youtube and provide a link here. Much easier than scanning every card/pack and better theater!
Will do. Actually did try to video the first pack rip but I scrapped it.
Looking back at the threads, I can’t tell for sure which Kranepool got the10 but in either case, the answer to Grote's 2-year old question below is NO.
Star-studded pack! Kranepool looks mint! Does PSA downgrade for the white print line along the the top?
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Shane
<< <i>my first post......so sorry if this is a dumb question.......are there any unopened 60's baseball wax boxes? >>
60s Fan - welcome to the boards! Please check out this amazing thread. 1960s boxes show up just a couple or few times a year lately, but here is where some reside:
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