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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Not surprising to see the 5-time perma-bammed troll mock an injury situation.

    Good on Case, it's always nice to see a hometown hero get a shot. There's a buzz in the air that cross country bandwagoners will never comprehend. The city is excited but we have zero expectations due to the fact he hasn't seen real action since beating PENN ST his senior year.

    Any given Sunday.

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  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Buzz in the air LOL.

    I guess when your team goes from Super Bowl aspirations to cellar dwellers anything is cause for celebration. I guess Yates wasn't th solution after two more picks? Ineptitude of the highest order going on in Houston. I guess that's what your 'real fans' get for cheering Schaubs injury.

    Classic!
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not surprising to see the 5-time perma-bammed troll mock an injury situation.

    Good on Case, it's always nice to see a hometown hero get a shot. There's a buzz in the air that cross country bandwagoners will never comprehend. The city is excited but we have zero expectations due to the fact he hasn't seen real action since beating PENN ST his senior year.

    Any given Sunday.

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    Any given Sunday is so true!

    Barry I do feel for ya bud, the Texans and Astros havnt been much fun but hang in there image
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any given Sunday is so true!

    Barry I do feel for ya bud, the Texans and Astros havnt been much fun but hang in there image >>



    Regardless of how Case performs on Sunday, him getting an opportunity put a smile on many Houstonian faces. Downside, we lose again but the sun will still come up the following day. On the other hand, it's a potential feel good story for a local kid that went undrafted, busted his tail on the practice squad, and earned this chance.

    'Merica! Eff ya!



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  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Regardless of how Case performs on Sunday, him getting an opportunity put a smile on many Houstonian faces. Downside, we lose again but the sun will still come up the following day. On the other hand, it's a potential feel good story for a local kid that went undrafted, busted his tail on the practice squad, and earned this chance.

    >>




    Interesting, this is Romo's story too, but you actively root against him.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting, this is Romo's story too, but you actively root against him. >>



    There's just a bit of difference between Romo and Keenum. Higher performance expectations, as well as 2-3 more zeroes in their paychecks.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There's just a bit of difference between Romo and Keenum. Higher performance expectations, as well as 2-3 more zeroes in their paychecks. >>



    Simple minded people that see the world in black and white would think the two are the same.

    Case was born and raised in Texas, won a state championship in high school, went to UofH and broke numerous NCAA records, went undrafted and then signed with the Texans, played a year on the practice squad, and makes $450K/year.

    Holy run-on.

    Anyhoo. So they were both UFAs, replaced an injured starter, and.... Uh... Oh yeah, they're also third cousins. THEREFORE, THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME PERSON!!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>THEREFORE, THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME PERSON!! >>



    You rang? Or did I ring myself?

    In all seriousness, I'm rooting extra hard for the kid this Sunday. Grew up in the same West TX town and saw him play at Wylie HS, then caught him at UH a few times when he was shattering records. Was talking to a childhood buddy last night and we both kept saying, "Anyplace but Arrowhead..."

    Oh well. Might as well be thrown into the lions' den, eh?

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Interesting, this is Romo's story too, but you actively root against him. >>



    There's just a bit of difference between Romo and Keenum. Higher performance expectations, as well as 2-3 more zeroes in their paychecks. >>



    Out of college, Romo was not drafted, and the Cowboys themselves seemed to root against him, continually bringing in QBs for him to have to fight. It's just the height of hypocrisy to root against one, and for the other.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Simple minded people that see the world in black and white would think the two are the same.
    >>



    Simple minded folks resort to bleacher report articles to make their case for them.



    << <i>Case was born and raised in Texas, won a state championship in high school, went to UofH and broke numerous NCAA records, went undrafted and then signed with the Texans, played a year on the practice squad, and makes $450K/year.

    Holy run-on.

    Anyhoo. So they were both UFAs, replaced an injured starter, and.... Uh... Oh yeah, they're also third cousins. THEREFORE, THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME PERSON!! >>



    Using the whole 'undrafted' as a cause for cheering for a guy while actively rooting for another undrafted QB to fail is hilariously hypocritical. I never once said they were the same person, just their situations were the same coming out of college. Maybe next time you'll read and comprehend, but I won't hold my breath for you. Keep feeding into that national storyline about Romo though bro!
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i> I'm rooting extra hard for the kid this Sunday. Grew up in the same West TX town and saw him play at Wylie HS, then caught him at UH a few times when he was shattering records. Was talking to a childhood buddy last night and we both kept saying, "Anyplace but Arrowhead..."

    Oh well. Might as well be thrown into the lions' den, eh? >>



    Here's hoping he keeps the pick six streak alive!
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh well. Might as well be thrown into the lions' den, eh? >>



    Howdy!

    Considering he went against our 1st team D last year on the practice squad, eff it, why not?!?

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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the record, I have nothing against Romo. In fact, I'm actually quite indifferent where he and the Cowboys are concerned. I just know that the dude has yet to reach the bar. To most people (and especially to Cowboys fans), it resides much higher than where you (1985fan) have it placed. That's all I've been saying all along. When you have that much talent (and clearly he does), one playoff victory in seven years is unacceptable. It just is. Good defense, bad defense, good skill position players, bad ones.......enough already with all of that. Strap the damn team on your back and take them places if you must. Whatever it takes -- just exercise your full potential. And merely being good when your team is assured of playing the following week is not doing that.

    Who knows, perhaps it's coming. At least one person seems to think so, seeing as he had a truckload of scratch dumped in his lap. What I do know, however, is that if we extrapolate his current numbers over 17 weeks and the Cowboys once again flame out prematurely, this topic will be revisited.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Strap the damn team on your back and take them places if you must. >>



    You've got to have heart. Miles and miles of heart.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Speaking of heart, RIP Bum. They don't make 'em like that anymore and he will forever be a Houston legend. #LuvYaBlue

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  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    My Bucs continuing their run to replace their coach as well as the number one overall pick. Here's hoping they don't win another game all year and secure that pick!
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Regardless of how Case performs on Sunday, him getting an opportunity put a smile on many Houstonian faces. Downside, we lose again but the sun will still come up the following day. On the other hand, it's a potential feel good story for a local kid that went undrafted, busted his tail on the practice squad, and earned this chance. >>



    I'd say he acquitted himself quite well, stown. First start, hostile environment, losing Foster in the 1st.........110.6 is rather remarkable, all things considered. I especially love his candor ("...I got confused") and the praise bestowed upon him by B Tate ("natural born leader").

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I especially love his candor ("...I got confused") and the praise bestowed upon him by B Tate ("natural born leader"). >>



    And AJ said Case had an aura around him. With that demeanor and teammate support, he has the potential to be something special.

    I cannot express how proud I am of Case's performance, especially considering the circumstances. First time on the active roster, against the league's top ranked D, and without Foster. I was shocked, yet pleasantly surprised, Kubes put him in a pistol formation the entire game. IMO, he definitely earned another start and they have two weeks to tinker plays that cater to Case's abilities.

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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    Keenum made some very nice plays. Overall, very impressive.

    On a side note, were there any other gamblers out there screaming at the top of their lungs at the end of that game for the Chiefs defensive TD that didn't happen? Then they take a knee?? Oh man. Way to BTS, Texans
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Denver's defense bitesimage

    Who would have predicted that almost half way through the regular season the KC Chiefs would be the lone undefeated team in the NFL?????
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is KC playing an NFL or a Div-1AA schedule this season?


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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grote15:

    The last time that I looked, every team on the KC Chiefs schedule this year is in fact an approved and an authorized, fully legal and currently operating franchise that is a full fledged member of the NFL.

    It may be that the Chiefs are playing a schedule this year that is filled with teams that are some of the weaker teams in the league (since KC was so bad last year that its lousy record in 2012 resulted in a less difficult 2013 schedule), but I do not see any college teams on the official scheduleimage

    So to answer your question, KC is playing an NFL schedule this year (watered down though it may be).

    Me thinks that KC will not remain undefeated the entire regular season.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Sweet, Giants win, just means my Bucs have only one more team to win before they do - the Jags. Come on Jacksonville get it together! We need that number one pick.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>(since KC was so bad last year that its lousy record in 2012 resulted in a less difficult 2013 schedule) >>



    Yeah, I don't know why some people insist having the worst record guarantees a soft schedule the following year. It hasn't been like that since the Texans came into the league 10+ years ago. Previous year records will only impact two games in which they play the same ranking (ie 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) within a predetermined division. Considering the NFL's parity now days, that doesn't even promise an easier schedule. Some of the worst teams from last year (DET and KC come to mind) have already equaled or exceeded their previous win totals.

    Those two games are potentially less difficult but guaranteed to be easy or soft, not so much.
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  • << <i>Sweet, Giants win, just means my Bucs have only one more team to win before they do - the Jags. Come on Jacksonville get it together! We need that number one pick. >>



    So they can draft Bridgewater, otherwise known as Josh Freeman II?
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    I don't see them drafting a QB. Glennon has already proven to be a huge upgrade over Freeman. I'd love to see them flip it for more picks as they have a number of issues to address and many teams have bigger qb needs than the bucs.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    7 down, 9 to go! And there's nearly 20 billboards in the Tampa area with 'Fire Schiano!' on them.


  • << <i>I don't see them drafting a QB. Glennon has already proven to be a huge upgrade over Freeman. I'd love to see them flip it for more picks as they have a number of issues to address and many teams have bigger qb needs than the bucs. >>



    Glennon has looked terrible. Most of his incomplete passes Thursday were off by 10+ yards. Absolutely no reason for axtel's Bucs not to draft a QB.

    Thankfully for the Bucs, they won't have to endure Schiano much longer. No way he makes it through the end of the season.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    He's looked terrible?

    While not setting the world on fire, he's been more than adequate and, again, a huge upgrade over Freeman. Taking out his first start, and focusing on his time after the bye, he's got a very respectable run going. Completing 60% of his passes, 268 yards per game, 5 TDs, just 1 INT, 85 QB rating. Even taking in that first game, he has a higher completion percentage this year than a number of other QBs.

    Sorry, I am not ready to write off a guy four games into his NFL career like you are.


  • << <i>He's looked terrible?

    While not setting the world on fire, he's been more than adequate and, again, a huge upgrade over Freeman. Taking out his first start, and focusing on his time after the bye, he's got a very respectable run going. Completing 60% of his passes, 268 yards per game, 5 TDs, just 1 INT, 85 QB rating. Even taking in that first game, he has a higher completion percentage this year than a number of other QBs.

    Sorry, I am not ready to write off a guy four games into his NFL career like you are. >>



    Do you even football?

    Completion percentage has dropped every start. QBR Thursday was worse than his first start that you want to throw out. His best game would be the one against the Falcons and he still only completed 59%. Dude is trash. Plus, that tall lanky frame with no meat his going to get him killed.
  • Not going to edit so you think I changed my mind. Forgot he has 4 starts. He still sucks
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Do you even football?
    >>



    No, but then neither do you, so that's completely and totally irrelevant.



    << <i>Completion percentage has dropped every start. >>



    It's dropped about 1% per start, hardly the precipitous drop you make it out to be.



    << <i> QBR Thursday was worse than his first start that you want to throw out. >>



    Not, it wasn't. 55.& against the Cardinals was his first start, Thursday, on a short week, against a very good defense, he was 80.1. And you want to ask ME if I football? Good lord.



    << <i>His best game would be the one against the Falcons and he still only completed 59%. Dude is trash. Plus, that tall lanky frame with no meat his going to get him killed. >>



    Wow, you can make predictions about NFL careers after 4 games? Why hasn't some NFL team tapped you for its scouting department yet? Oh, by the way, we're still waiting for your 'expert' fantasy picks!

    edited for []'s.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    So the Bucs almost blew it today, and they almost beat the Seahawks. Their drive for a winless season that will surely see the ouster of Schiano marches on (thankfully)!

    I had to look up the tiebreakers for draft order, and apparently if teams finish with the same record, the first tiebreaker is opponent strength of schedule, and Jacksonville currently holds a .508 to .500 advantage to the Bucs. Curses! Here's hoping the Bucs can continue the streak!
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
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  • If there wasn't a single defender around him, he could not have caught the pass.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    It was ruled uncatchable, and to me, no different than if it had been thrown 10 feet above his head. Even without the pass interference, there was no way he was getting to that ball. Right call IMO.
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    <<<It was ruled uncatchable, and to me, no different than if it had been thrown 10 feet above his head. >>>

    I agree it would have been a difficult catch at best, even with no defenders in the area. However, how many times this year have we seen interference called on a fade pass where the ball lands 4-5 yards out of bounds? I bet there are on average 1 or 2 every week. Last night's call was at least in the gray area and the penalty should have stood. I promise you that if, instead of being intercepted, the ball landed at Gronk's feet (where it was tracking), the call would have stood. The fact it was intercepted is irrelevant.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If there wasn't a single defender around him, he could not have caught the pass. >>



    Agreed but NE fan does has a legit gripe for defensive holding.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i><<<It was ruled uncatchable, and to me, no different than if it had been thrown 10 feet above his head. >>>

    I agree it would have been a difficult catch at best, even with no defenders in the area. However, how many times this year have we seen interference called on a fade pass where the ball lands 4-5 yards out of bounds? I bet there are on average 1 or 2 every week. >>



    Give a team 3 more free chances at a TD even though the fans in the front row were overthrown. Drives me nuts but no one ever seems to really complain.
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Imo, an absolutely horrid non-call. Not only was Kuechly allowed to effectively take Gronk out via a bear hug that prevented him from making a play on the ball, but the officials were tacitly endorsing the notion that they knew -- with certitude -- that the football would not have ended up in the hands of Patriot player under any circumstance. I agree that he would not have made the catch, but who can safely say that the DB still makes a clean pick if Gronk is allowed to make a move toward the football? Even if Gronk makes the slightest contact with him -- hell, even if the DB hears footsteps -- the opportunity for a carom exists.

    A.J. Green.

    Auburn-Georgia.

    It can and does happen, unless the NFL suddenly allows players to be eradicated from a play. The only way I'm ever on board with that non-call is if Nostradamus is a member of the officiating crew.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At the very least, defensive holding should have been called. Just because the defender mugged Gronk to make the ball "uncatchable" shouldn't mean the offending team should benefit via the penalty. The back judge who threw the flag was absolutely correct in doing so. And I hate the Pats.


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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    NFL said it was a judgement call. There was another controversial ruling this year (drawing a blank) and they skirted making a definitive statement. Good on them for finally coming around.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NFL said it was a judgement call. There was another controversial ruling this year (drawing a blank) and they skirted making a definitive statement. Good on them for finally coming around. >>



    I can see the "judgement call" argument being used for whether the call was uncatchable or not, but there is no question that Gronk was contacted illegaly by the defender downfield.


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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can see the "judgement call" argument being used for whether the call was uncatchable or not, but there is no question that Gronk was contacted illegaly by the defender downfield. >>



    Oh, for sure Gronk was held. That's their way of saying it was a bang-bang play, couldn't be reviewed, and they had to make a decision. I would rather them essentially say it was human error rather than blame some BS rule.
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  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Interesting article on the league-wide drop off in running back quality:

    "The lack of efficiency in 2013 extends to many of 2012’s star backs. It seems like every superstar running back has either experienced a notable decline in efficiency, struggled to stay healthy, or both. I count 24 backs who received 100 or more carries in 2012 and have received that many in 2013. Of those 24, nearly half (11) have lost a half-yard or more off their average yards per carry from last season. Just three — DeMarco Murray, Ryan Mathews, and LeSean McCoy — are averaging a half-yard per carry more than they did a year ago."



    Link
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ryan Mathews is maddening. Nearly dropped him a few weeks ago but he's been great last couple weeks. Unfortunately, you can't rely on him because he doesn't play on 3rd or passing downs and if SD falls behind he is essentially a non-factor as Woodhead comes in.


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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If there wasn't a single defender around him, he could not have caught the pass. >>





    << <i>It was ruled uncatchable, and to me, no different than if it had been thrown 10 feet above his head. Even without the pass interference, there was no way he was getting to that ball. Right call IMO. >>




    ESPN's Sportscience people definitively proved both of these ideas to be false.

    The official NFL explanation is that the refs ruled the contact was simultaneous to the ball being touched by a defender. If that were the case, the call was correct. However, that idea is demonstrably false.

    The refs blew the call, plain and simple.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Denver wins in KC today and is on track for the AFC West crown and #1 seen in the AFC playoffs.

    Go Broncos. Hopefully Denver and New England wll face each other again in the playoffs with Denver finally winning.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Holy 10 game losing streak batman, the Texans now are behind both the Bucs and Jaguars for sole possession of the worst record in football! Are we seeing the biggest year to year swing between games won and games lost ever?
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Denver wins in KC today and is on track for the AFC West crown and #1 seen in the AFC playoffs.

    Go Broncos. Hopefully Denver and New England wll face each other again in the playoffs with Denver finally winning. >>



    Been a long time Denver fan. Hope that they are playing in New Jersey on February 4th.
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