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perkdog
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Well after a crazy offseason my expectations of the Pats making another run at the Super Bowl are non exsistent, hopefully this means they will do better than I think they will like the Red Sox have been.
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couple of games each season seem to be pretty unpredictable for a lot of teams.
<< <i>That was a much closer game than most thought. I didnt watch it, was Buffalo that good or New England that bad? The first
couple of games each season seem to be pretty unpredictable for a lot of teams. >>
Buffalo svcks make no mistake about it, poor gameclock management late in the game didnt help much either.
New England is not that great on paper believe me and the fact that they almost lost is alarming however we still got Brady amd Gronk is coming back soon but I dont think it will be enough for a guarenteed trip to the playoffs.
<< <i>Great job with that 10.5 spread!! Freakin crap >>
I thought that spread was in response to the talk of the Bills starting some high school QB but after Manuel got cleared to play I was certain the line would have gone down some?
Shame on anyone who layed 10.5
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<< <i>Great job with that 10.5 spread!! Freakin crap >>
I thought that spread was in response to the talk of the Bills starting some high school QB but after Manuel got cleared to play I was certain the line would have gone down some?
Shame on anyone who layed 10.5 >>
The line opened at 7.5, then moved to 11 when they thought Teul or whatever his name was was going to start, moved down into the 9s when Manuel got the nod. But based on an extensive run of dominance by the Pats over Buffalo, they had to have a huge line. "History and trends:New England is a dominant 18-1 SU in the last 19 games against Buffalo and 23-2 SU in the last 25. The Patriots are also 8-1 ATS in their last nine meetings in Buffalo. The OVER is 4-0 in the last four meetings between the teams. New England has averaged 42.3 points and Buffalo 28.5."
Not saying in a million years I'm taking that action, but I can see how they got to that big a spread.
The guy is a freakin STUD in a glass body.
Soooooooooo We got Vereen out with some phantom wrist injury, I mean who breaks their wrist in the first quarter plays through it and has a game like he did?
NO Clue who Brady will be targeting in the passing game when Edelman is covered like a blanket - cant believe im typing that.
Looks like the Pets will be a tough game
<< <i>In other news Danny Amendola is doing what he knows best and that is being hurt.
The guy is a freakin STUD in a glass body.
Soooooooooo We got Vereen out with some phantom wrist injury, I mean who breaks their wrist in the first quarter plays through it and has a game like he did?
NO Clue who Brady will be targeting in the passing game when Edelman is covered like a blanket - cant believe im typing that.
Looks like the Pets will be a tough game
latest is a torn muscle in the hip. Glass!
Brady and his New Receivers seem to be getting on the same page a bit better.. actually alot better.
Im Glad Gronk has been held out, no need to bring him back too early again.
Pulled it out
Im thinking there is ZERO chance we can trade points with NO if our defense can keep it low scoring we might have a chance, I got a little excited after we beat Atlanta however they are proving to not be a strong team.
Im sure deep down even Rex Ryan is embaresed about it.
<< <i>Was it more ridiculous than the call on January 19th, 2002? >>
Not as important of a call but yes more ridiculas.
Get over 1/19/02 it was over 10 years ago
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<< <i>Hey, I have nothing to "get over" as I'm a Seahawks fan. I was asking very seriously. From what I read, it reminds me of a "leaping" call from a MNF game many years ago. >>
The tuck rule game was, like today's game, a correct interpretation of a bad rule.
<< <i>Hey, I have nothing to "get over" as I'm a Seahawks fan. I was asking very seriously. From what I read, it reminds me of a "leaping" call from a MNF game many years ago. >>
And I was supposed to know this from your post? I assumed you were messing around, I guess its a rule that is new and that EXACT play was the first time it was xcalled all year and it was a game decider basicaly. I stand by my statement that the ref is a piece a chit for calling it and probably had money on the game.
Tough loss on him today. Guys going low are causing more injuries than going high.
I heard Criqui doing the game today at NE--some old school AFC stuff right there! He called the Red Right 88 play when Sipe threw that backbreaking pick about 35 years ago, that's how long he's been around, lol..
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the hit by Ward that knocked out Gronkowski was 100% legitimate and pretty much the way that league rules dictate a player must tackle. I talk with a good friend of mine after games every week and we are both convinced that the NFL is moving towards Flag Football. it has become pathetic and the NFL is a shadow of what I grew up with.
the play in the end zone at the end of the game was a farce. the play in question is a strategy employed by several teams, The Patriots are simply the foremost practitioner. why would Officials allow incidental/no contact the entire game and then flag it at the most crucial time?? the paranoid cynic in me says it is to ensure the Patriots a top seed.
the game has apparently gotten too fast and too sophisticated for the current Refs to be able to effectively moderate. the Coaches Challenge and some replay is a good start but tends to slow a game and halt continuity, something that I'm sure the TV Networks really encourage and appreciate. the solution is simple and two-fold: each game needs more Officials on the field and the League needs to stop making inane rules changes/additions designed to increase scoring. as it now stands, you can't hit the (Elite) Quarterback, the Fullback position has been all but eliminated and a DB has been handicapped to the point where a receiver is almost allowed to catch a pass without being hit until he completes a "Football move" ---- whatever in the hell that is!!
OK, rant complete.
<< <i>three points....................
the hit by Ward that knocked out Gronkowski was 100% legitimate and pretty much the way that league rules dictate a player must tackle. I talk with a good friend of mine after games every week and we are both convinced that the NFL is moving towards Flag Football. it has become pathetic and the NFL is a shadow of what I grew up with.
the play in the end zone at the end of the game was a farce. the play in question is a strategy employed by several teams, The Patriots are simply the foremost practitioner. why would Officials allow incidental/no contact the entire game and then flag it at the most crucial time?? the paranoid cynic in me says it is to ensure the Patriots a top seed.
the game has apparently gotten too fast and too sophisticated for the current Refs to be able to effectively moderate. the Coaches Challenge and some replay is a good start but tends to slow a game and halt continuity, something that I'm sure the TV Networks really encourage and appreciate. the solution is simple and two-fold: each game needs more Officials on the field and the League needs to stop making inane rules changes/additions designed to increase scoring. as it now stands, you can't hit the (Elite) Quarterback, the Fullback position has been all but eliminated and a DB has been handicapped to the point where a receiver is almost allowed to catch a pass without being hit until he completes a "Football move" ---- whatever in the hell that is!!
OK, rant complete. >>
What, you don't like 90 TDs in ONE day?? The NFL has turned into a video game, much to the dismay of this former fan.
The NFL has to address the pass interference situation in the off-season. I heard a stat where pass attempts are up 10% from 5 years ago, but PI calls are up 63% (!!!!) in that same time. It has gotten to the point where every time a ball falls incomplete, I expect a flag to come out. The PI on the Browns in the end zone was a total farce.
If they are going to call every ticky-tack incidental contact a penalty, they have to resort to the college rules and make it a 15 yd penalty. They also need to stop calling illegal contact on DBs and linebackers when WR's/TE"s run full speed into THEM.
<< <i>three points....................
the hit by Ward that knocked out Gronkowski was 100% legitimate and pretty much the way that league rules dictate a player must tackle. I talk with a good friend of mine after games every week and we are both convinced that the NFL is moving towards Flag Football. it has become pathetic and the NFL is a shadow of what I grew up with. >>
I didn't watch the play, but he wasn't flagged for the hit was he?
<< <i>the play in the end zone at the end of the game was a farce. the play in question is a strategy employed by several teams, The Patriots are simply the foremost practitioner. why would Officials allow incidental/no contact the entire game and then flag it at the most crucial time?? the paranoid cynic in me says it is to ensure the Patriots a top seed.
the game has apparently gotten too fast and too sophisticated for the current Refs to be able to effectively moderate. the Coaches Challenge and some replay is a good start but tends to slow a game and halt continuity, something that I'm sure the TV Networks really encourage and appreciate. the solution is simple and two-fold: each game needs more Officials on the field and the League needs to stop making inane rules changes/additions designed to increase scoring. as it now stands, you can't hit the (Elite) Quarterback, the Fullback position has been all but eliminated and a DB has been handicapped to the point where a receiver is almost allowed to catch a pass without being hit until he completes a "Football move" ---- whatever in the hell that is!!
OK, rant complete. >>
The fullback has been eliminated because teams don't need to run anymore. Passing is up so the need for a FB is gone.
Denver had better win out to finish 14-2 (they play San Diego in Denver next week, Houston on the road the following week and Oakland on the road the following week) if it wants homefield advantage in the playoffs. If Denver has to play New England I would want the game to be played in Denver and not in Foxboro.
Of course Denver has done nothing yet except qualify for the playoffs. It can still lose the Division title, can slip into a wild card slot, can lose in the Black Hole in Oakland [is has done so, many times] and it can be another one and done in the playoffs.
Denver's season has been fun to watch so far this year and with a few changed plays it could be 13-0 right now instead of 11-2. It has shown an ability to score in droves in the second half of games. Just wish that it would do so in both halves and not make mistakes that allows its opponents to stick around.
<< <i>With Gronkowski out for the year that makes Denver's prospects of winning a rematch with NE in the playoffs a little better.
Denver had better win out to finish 14-2 (they play San Diego in Denver next week, Houston on the road the following week and Oakland on the road the following week) if it wants homefield advantage in the playoffs. If Denver has to play New England I would want the game to be played in Denver and not in Foxboro.
Of course Denver has done nothing yet except qualify for the playoffs. It can still lose the Division title, can slip into a wild card slot, can lose in the Black Hole in Oakland [is has done so, many times] and it can be another one and done in the playoffs.
Denver's season has been fun to watch so far this year and with a few changed plays it could be 13-0 right now instead of 11-2. It has shown an ability to score in droves in the second half of games. Just wish that it would do so in both halves and not make mistakes that allows its opponents to stick around. >>
Manning is awesome but that D is mediocre at best. If it weren't for TDs on turnovers vs NE, that game would have been a blowout for NE.
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Very true. When I watched the first half of the Denver-NE game and realized that 17 of the 24 Denver points came about directly from NE turnovers I just knew that Denver was going to be in trouble in the second half it if let Brady connect with his receivers.
The hit on Gronk was 100% a clean hit and the DB was 100% correct in saying that the NFL WANTS those hits, I mean if he hit him high he would have gotten a fine- the NFL created this monster and now everyone has to deal with it.
The NFL is EXACTLY like Madden on the XBOX, stupid stats and no defense in the majority of the games, all these people that want to stick their nose into the game and make it "Safer" are all out of their minds and are on the fast track to just ruining the game.
The people who make the rules in the NFL are a complete joke and have no bussiness being allowed to impliment their STUPID BS rules.
Good couple games by the Pats they have been putting on a good show while getting devestating injuries to key players and its too bad but the Pats have had their share of luck although their bad luck has caught up with them so I believe its just about 50/50 even as far as good/bad luck that they have had in the Brady era, one thing that I will continue to complain about is the 2 headed monster of Belichek and Kraft one thinks he can win all by himself and the other one is too cheap to get big name players in Foxboro.
GO PATS!!!
GO PATS!!!
Paul, it's like fantasy football for you--every move or declaration you make has the opposite effect! LOL!!
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<< <i>[i basicaly because I have zero Super Bowl expectations]
Paul, it's like fantasy football for you--every move or declaration you make has the opposite effect! LOL!! >>
The only difference is Im not stressing about this game like I do Fantasy ( Believe me? )
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<< <i>[i basicaly because I have zero Super Bowl expectations]
Paul, it's like fantasy football for you--every move or declaration you make has the opposite effect! LOL!! >>
The only difference is Im not stressing about this game like I do Fantasy ( Believe me? ) >>
I know that feeling!
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That means the odds makers don't feel that Denver is a field goal better than the Pats on a neutral field.
<< <i>Kudos to my 'friend' perkdog - didn't think the Pats were going to get this far this year - hope they lose bad this weekend - but if not - congratulations >>
Well I didnt think they were going this far either, and Thanks ( I guess LOL )
Either way its been fun watching them this year, much more fun than I thought.
I just hope the game is a good one, with lots of offense from both teams. Got to entertain the fans.
Whoever wins the AFC title will be labelled a sacrificial lamb with no chance to beat the winner of SF v Seattle game in the Super Bowl. There appears to still be an NFC bias when it comes to the Super Bowl.